nodnarbo: Fencer is in Tahiti, working on some new smileys, yeah right...

nodnarbo: Good idea. I just did it.

Fencer: How about adding this link somewhere in the description of the Feature request board. Most people don't go back in the archives of brainking.info very far to read articles, and I'm sure there are a lot who've never read that article, but would benefit from reading it.

oh cool- thanks Pedro and Fencer

Fencer: Thank you

El Cid: http://brainking.info/archives/20-About-feature-requests.html

AbigailII: Sometime ago, I've asked on feature requests forum, that the chosen vacation days only disapear from our profile at the end of the day, and not at the begining, just to avoid this kind of problems. Seems Fencer didn't see it, or didn't care, for the request

alilsassy: That's another thing to be improved in the new BrainKing.

Imsoaddicted& baddessi: Thank you both for your help......I was getting so confused with all the red numbers.
The minus now makes since with the changing of calendar and auto/vac. features.

I have to agree with cd power's when he said "I don't see the logic behind having any other fancy rules."
0 should mean 0

Pedro Martínez: Thank you

alilsassy: http://brainking.com/en/OldFAQ?ht=24

alisassy: it goes into negative time when ppl change anything on the calendar page
earlier today i changed mine by turning my auto vacation day box off
quite a few of my games went to -3 days 23 hrs but over the next half a hour or so it recalculates the timings and sorts itself out

of course in my case its cause ive got way to many games..lol

alilsassy: just wanted you to know that I saw your question and looked all thru help and FAQ and couldn't find any explanations for vacation days. This might be a good thing to request on "featured Requests" board. Just wanted you to know that I looked and couldn't find an answer for you. It is confusing!

I went back to check it again 1 minute later & it says"

Backgammon Christmas in July ********* white 4. 10 hours 36 mins

I'm so confused LOL

cd power:: I think there's a site problem too.  Check this out...I just copied & pasted it from my games list"
Backgammon     Christmas in July      *********     white     4.      -13 hours 17 mins
~~~~~~~
Is the clock suppose to have -13 hours?
I understand this particular person has auto-vacation, but I've never seen the red clock minus by so many hours until last night.

Czuch: Happens to me a lot too, in Firefox.

Czuch: Have you exited your browser (completely closed it) and then reloaded it? That always works for me, as I have had the same issue.

II dont know if this might be related, probably not... but I have noticed that when I refresh this page manually, by using the "main page" link, it refreshes just fine. But when I leave it and it tries to refresh on its own, the page never finishes reloading, my little clock thingy at the top right corner of my screen just keeps on spinning and spinning

Is this a site problem, or my browser issue? It could have something to do with why games wont time out correctly? I would assume that the fact that no comment from Fencer means that he is working right now to correct some sort of issue?

cd power: I was also hoping Fencer would give us some insight on the situation as well. I'm sure that it has said (0) no vacation days remaining for more than 48 hours now.
Is there a location I can go to here at BK to read up on the time out system so that I can better understand what is going on?

AbigailII: I have also been confused for many years by the vacation day system. If a person's vacation days show zero, then when the clock counts down to zero, it should be a timeout, period. I don't see the logic behind having any other fancy rules.

rod03801: I am in the same timezone as the site uses, and what I saw happened on Friday server time. Also, I would normally see which vacation days a person has set, or whether a person uses auto-vacation. This wasn't show for the person discussed - perhaps this piece of information disappears when the number of vacation days is 0?

Perhaps Fencer could add a little tidbit of information which indicates whether a player has taken a vacation day (be it by setting the date, or auto-vacation kicking in earlier that day) "today" (A dot of some colour next to the number of vacation days remaining will do). This can avoid confusion in the future.

Still, what I don't understand is, if a person who has Saturday and Sunday set as weekend days, times out on a Friday, and Friday is either a vacation day, or autovacation kicks in, why does that person have 24 hours added to the clock, and not 72?

Imsoaddicted:

Imsoaddicted:

alilsassy: dont worry about it
i sometimes dont understand it after 6 years

rod03801: I'm in the US as well. I understand what you, Pedro and Imsoaddicted & (V) are saying.
When I see red numbers counting down on games, I tend to go to the players profile & check for vacation days, week-ends, auto, etc. especially before I mention it to anyone.
Thank you.....I'll just sit back & wait patiently.

alilsassy: You need to remember, that the day starts at midnite Czech time. I'm not positive where you are, but here in the Eastern U.S. the "new day" starts at 6pm.

I believe Pedro and Imsoaddicted are correct as well. It is her last vacation day. Her vacation days remaining probably turned to zero at 6pm eastern yesterday (which would explain why you say it has been "two" days). I would imagine at 6pm eastern, she will start timing out.

AbigailII: Thank you for understanding. I was beginning to think I wasn't comprehending the time out guide lines. I'll watch a lil' closer today & see if things work itself out.

AbigailII: Well then... The person is going to lose alot of games if she don't come on. Problem solved!

AbigailII: I believe Imsoaddicted is right about today being her last vacation day. Those game she timed out in were all no-days-off games, so vacation days don't apply to them.

(V): Actually, I did check her weekend settings: it's Saturday and Sunday. And today is not listed as a vaction day for her. Nor can today be an autovacation day for her, as she timed out yesterday, and hasn't been at BK since Tuesday - she cannot have changed her setting since her last timeout.

Bernice: I had the same problem.
Now is OK

Bernice: yes i was for 20 minutes its ok again now.

ive been hanving terrible prob with half loaded pages....eg my games are there but nothing on the right hand side of the page is.

any others having the same problem???

OOPS.........sems to be OK at the moment

(V): lol i know that but if i had a vacation day set for say Sunday it would show on my profile until the day changes to Sunday then it goes away i beleive

i know what i mean just not good at explaining things

Imsoaddicted: The account will tell you such info. Such info is open so people can check. Like your weekend days being Friday and Saturday

(V): ive just been watching the same account and all her games are going back 24 hours
and the only reason i can think of for it doing that she had today set has a vacation day

i guess we have to wait until Monday to see what happens then

AbigailII: No, you have not checked the weekend settings. If I'm right about which accounts you guys & girls are talking about, then you'll find that it's not as normal... even if not, it's worth looking!!

alilsassy: Looking at your profile and running games, my guess is that the player you're talking about is a female player from France. I've just been watching her "started games". And I've seen her games go from "1 min" to "-5 min" to "23h 50m". With her weekend days Saturday and Sunday. And it's not that today was her last vacation day - she timed out some games yesterday. (But amazingly, several others timed out against her later yesterday as well).

She also has some games where she has to make a move before tomorrow morning (Saturday). Which shouldn't happen, as Saturday is one of her weekend days.

I'd say something is wrong. Either the timeout system is broken, or the display of the time-left column is wrong.

Pedro Martínez: I'm really confused about the time out clock on a couple of my opponents. It seems to be fluctuating in time.
I'm not understanding the countdown to 0, then going into minus several hours before resetting to 12 or 24 hours. Is this a time allowance for time zones?

alilsassy: Unless you specify who the "these people", "they", "some of my opponents" or "one in particular" are/is, you can't expect anyone to help you with this. However, I do understand your fear of being hidden or banned from this board because of mentioning names here.

Imsoaddicted:
yeah, yours seems to be working.

Maybe these people will play or time out tomorrow. Guess time will tell.

alilsassy: strange i know everything is working with timeouts has i just came on and found over 20 messages in my inbox

Imsoaddicted: their profile said 0 vacation days remaining for 2 days now

alilsassy: maybe today was there last vacation left
so after the weekend they will time out

Fencer: Is there problems with your game clock? I've been looking at red all day with some of my opponents. I have one in particular that has no vacation days remaining & their week-end days are Saturday & Sunday. Instead of these games timing out, they reset at 24 hours. Am I not understanding the time out rules?

Thank you so much......
having or leaving the *red* unread pages so you dont have to count back.

So much easier................once again thanks

Bernice: lmao one day I'll go over my grammer

Czuch: you can delete em as well ROFL.......

Czuch: LOL, I can still edit the first post i ever made on this site

Bernice: whoo whoo!!! Nice one bernice... thanks! I have seen a few fun reminders of our history as well!