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5. Julio 2004, 21:37:21
bwildman 
cool!!! that really speeds things along!

5. Julio 2004, 21:34:45
Fencer 
For paying members: The dropdown box containing all games for "move and go to" action should be now sorted in the same way as your game list on Main Page is.

5. Julio 2004, 21:15:03
Cole 
shudders....stop that....

5. Julio 2004, 21:12:14
Fencer 
Cole: It's not fully fixed yet. It can happen again.

5. Julio 2004, 20:57:57
Cole 
Temo: phantom bugs...
My highlighted phantasm message bug has disappeared...which is good ...I was beginning to feel like one of those conditioned dogs who respond to lights and sounds...which of course meant I ignored the message light for the longest time today....till I couldn't stand it anymore....and there it was.... a genuine message...sigh...

5. Julio 2004, 20:35:33
Cole 
Temo: LOL @ bewildman
....sing it brother!...jumps in with harmonica

5. Julio 2004, 20:27:28
bwildman 
*breaks out into song*
"I feel like a number"

5. Julio 2004, 20:24:43
Fencer 
Everything has an ID. You, fellowships, discussion boards, games, tournaments, etc.

5. Julio 2004, 20:22:52
Eriisa 
LOL, I did not know the Fellowships had an ID. grin.

5. Julio 2004, 20:14:33
MadMonkey 
I think they are by ID, as in the order they were created :-)

5. Julio 2004, 20:13:33
Fencer 
Easier not to be in so many fellowships :-D
They will be sorted by a name, later.

5. Julio 2004, 20:11:11
Stevie 
easier to search by name though

5. Julio 2004, 20:08:51
Fencer 
Aren't they ordered by the fellowship ID?

5. Julio 2004, 20:07:26
Stevie 
Temo: Re: Fellowship List
He said will put back to alphabetical sometime in future when I asked

5. Julio 2004, 20:04:16
Eriisa 
Temo: Fellowship List
Hey Fencer, what order is our Fellowships listed on the right side? I seem to keep srolling up and down looking for certain ones.

5. Julio 2004, 18:48:47
Fencer 
You are right, thanks. It will be fixed.

5. Julio 2004, 18:39:32
WizardII 
Temo: Loop Chess Bug
http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=387609

It said I just checkmated my opponent but, my opponent still has pieces to drop between me and the bishop I checked with.

5. Julio 2004, 17:14:26
coan.net 
I currently have 5 BrainKing windows, 1 DailyGammon, 1 GT, 1 IYT, 1 "start page", and my mail.

5. Julio 2004, 17:11:41
Backoff 
or 4 or 6 or 8 or 10(like me)

5. Julio 2004, 15:22:24
Fencer 
He can have two open BrainKing windows.

5. Julio 2004, 14:32:05
gooner 
By someone's nic it still says 'browsing waiting games' when they are writing a message.

5. Julio 2004, 14:19:13
Fencer 
Kind of anomaly, I guess :-)

5. Julio 2004, 14:15:33
MadMonkey 
I know they are there now, this was yesterday. they are saying they did not receive any invite in there message box (which seems odd as i know it works), but when they went to the Main Madhouse page they just accepted.
Now, i know i kept inviting them, so how come it let me keep doing it ??

5. Julio 2004, 14:12:31
Fencer 
Have a look at your fellowship page if the list of invited users contains him/her.

5. Julio 2004, 14:10:11
MadMonkey 
In BK 1.0, once you had invited a person to a fellowship, you did not have the option to re-invite them unless they left or declined.
I was asked to invite someone (while playing them), which i did in the normal manner. After a while they said they had not received the invite, so i returned to there profile and it let me do it again (I did get a message say they may have already received an invite though). Same outcome 4 times. In the end i told them to just search for the fellowship and they were able to join. Bug ???

5. Julio 2004, 14:01:18
Fencer 
Modifita de Fencer (5. Julio 2004, 14:02:31)
Please read http://BrainKing.info, List of changes.
And thanks for pointing out this entry in tips. I forgot to remove it.

5. Julio 2004, 13:36:03
Joseph S 
Temo: auto-login..??
Ever since the new changes i've had to type my name and password everytime i come to the site..i saw on the "tips" that it says i can change to auto-login on my edits page ...but it's not there to change anywhere....is that just something for members...??

5. Julio 2004, 08:00:46
Fencer 
BBW: No, there is no way until they finish at least 4 rated games. This is how it works since the very beginning of BrainKing.com.

5. Julio 2004, 03:41:19
coan.net 
Temo: ratings
Modifita de coan.net (5. Julio 2004, 04:15:58)
Is there any way to actually see what an "unrated" players rating is?

Why I ask is for example, in Dark Battleboats - I have a 13xx rating, and I've won a couple more games against unrated players and both times my ratings did not change - If there is a way to see what a current unrated players rating is, I could do my own math and double check my rating.

update: So I won 2 game, rating did not change. Lose 1 game, rating drop almost another 100 points. (of course againts an unrated person so there is no way for me to check it for myself..) :-(

5. Julio 2004, 01:42:57
ughaibu 
Temo: Fencer and Liquid
Thanks, it's okay now.

5. Julio 2004, 00:20:07
Fencer 
No more off-topic posts please. You have General Chat for it.

5. Julio 2004, 00:14:51
danoschek 
Temo: there are some good and active yahoo groups
Modifita de danoschek (5. Julio 2004, 00:20:01)
'

'
where basic algorithms are shared ... if you have access to the
Fred Fish Library of the Amiga Community, I'd recommend you
try out Mathlab from 1990 - it comes with an extra floppy full of old
Fortran sources - fancy implementations partly and, highly accurate
- fairly easy to transcode them to Pascal later ... ~*~

5. Julio 2004, 00:09:50
Kevin 
I am currently writing a program to go through every possible set of two hands and checking for the same pair and three other (different) cards that are the same. When i'm done, we'll have the actual answer.

4. Julio 2004, 23:58:55
Grim Reaper 
Temo: Re:
Modifita de Grim Reaper (5. Julio 2004, 00:01:55)
Yes I have.

The odds of drawing 1 out of 12 if 1 out of 12. It does not matter is I have all 4 suits, or 3 of the 4 suits, or just 1 of the four suits.

The odds of picking 1 out of 12 is 1 out of 12.

We happened to know, AFTER THE FACT, that the other card was the same.

Put another way: Say I draw 4 cards out of the deck, and they are all tens. What are the odds the next card I draw will be a ten?

You are saying 1 out of 48 (52-4) and I am saying 0 chance (of the 12x4 remaining, none are tens.)

The "specificity" is accounted for.

As this is basic combinatorics, I think we can leave it off here.

But just so you know, if you click here I showed how to count all of the Gothic Chess positions before any one piece comes off of the board. That number is 32,099,674,107,692,140,366,789,953,222,888,490,987,180,838,400,000,000 which makes doing "card math" a piece of cake :)

4. Julio 2004, 23:57:35
gooner 
Sorry Kevin I am with Ed. LOL

4. Julio 2004, 23:56:59
Stevie 
Harley, this is off topic for the board????

4. Julio 2004, 23:54:54
Kevin 
If you know you are not drawing from the group that has two, then you have not accounted for that in your math. Also, it does matter whether the group has four or the group has three. The chances of selecting each individual card is the same (1 / (# of cards)) - not the chance of getting a 9 is the same as getting a Queen, regardless of how many of each are left.

4. Julio 2004, 23:52:39
Grim Reaper 
Kevin, if you have 4 groups of 13 different cards, then pull out all 4 10's, there are just 12 different ones remaining, correct?

2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
4 4 4 4
. . . .
A A A A

OK, now I am going to remove 1, then remove another exactly like it.

Surely there are 12 sets of matching cards to start with. And, even after I draw 1 card, there are still 12 identical sets. One set will only have 3 cards, but that does not matter.

Now, there are 11 of the same sets with 4 cards, and one set of cards only has 2.

I know I am not drawing from the set that has 2, or I will have another pair.

That means I am drawing from one of the 11.

Etc.

4. Julio 2004, 23:50:29
Stevie 
poohy LOL

4. Julio 2004, 23:48:21
harley 
No more Stevie or I'll have to delete. Not even with a smiley face!

4. Julio 2004, 23:45:36
Stevie 
go play your games ;oÞ

4. Julio 2004, 23:41:01
Kevin 
I believe your answer is not correct either.

You say:
--------
{there are just 12 "different" cards now to start...}

4 x (12 x 12) x (11 x 11) x (10 x 10) =

6,969,600.
-----
However, after the first "x12", it is no longer 12:1 that another card of the same number will be drawn - there are only three of it remaining, while there are four of the rest. Same for the 2nd "x11" and "x10".

4. Julio 2004, 23:29:12
Kevin 
So then what is the answer, if my answer is wrong?

4. Julio 2004, 23:28:06
Grim Reaper 
Temo: Re:
Modifita de Grim Reaper (4. Julio 2004, 23:35:14)
Except that the answer is wrong.

There are 13 of the same cards, disregarding suits.


The chances of 4 of the same being drawn by two people would be...

4 x (13x12x11x10/4x3x2) then divided by 2.

This is one in 5720.

Now, given that 4 cards have been removed, with 6 more to be dealt, with 3 matching pairs, the odds are:

{there are just 12 "different" cards now to start...}

4 x (12 x 12) x (11 x 11) x (10 x 10) =

6,969,600.

Multiply this by 5720 and you get:


39,866,112,000 to 1.

4. Julio 2004, 23:27:43
Bernice 
and it only took Kevin 44 minutes to do as well, :)

4. Julio 2004, 23:21:16
Kevin 
rofl - It's amazing what you can do with a calculator :-)

4. Julio 2004, 23:19:52
harley 
*faint* Amazing odds, however you worked that out!

4. Julio 2004, 23:16:44
Kevin 
Modifita de Kevin (4. Julio 2004, 23:22:51)
The chances of the two players getting the same pair and the same three (different) other cards is:

(52/52 * 3/51 * 48/50 * 44/49 * 40/48) * (2/47 * 1/46 * 3/45 * 3/44 * 3/43) = 1.24 * 10 ^ -8 = 0.0000000124 = 0.000000124 % = 124 / 10,000,000,000 = 1 / 80,667,372.92

4. Julio 2004, 23:08:13
MadMonkey 
ok
I had not bothered to look as the date still says 30th June lol :-)
No wonder i keep jumping about on the ranking at the moment, mainly against unrated players.

4. Julio 2004, 23:02:44
harley 
Temo: GI
That doesn't surprise me! And it probably wouldn't surprise you that I wouldn't have understood a number of it! :oD

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