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24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:56:03
harley 
Thanks Clay, I just sent personal messages saying just that :o)

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:55:56
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Grim Reaper: You re-read the contract, Edward. It uses the words "description of the rules of the game". And I am the one to decide which pages fulfil these conditions.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:55:28
Grim Reaper 
It was going on via PM, and Fencer was not answering me.

Thanks for butting in Clay, as usual.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:54:18
ClayNashvilleTN 
This sounds like a personal matter best handled in private, gentlemen.

Please delete your post and continue your conversation through PM.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:51:25
Grim Reaper 
Modifita de Grim Reaper (24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:52:02)
Re-read the contract Filip. It uses the words "game description".

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:46:10
Fencer 
Modifita de Fencer (24. Aŭgusto 2005, 19:06:04)
Bull. The only place I am supposed to show this information is the game rules page [where it actually appears]. Please stop spreading the nonsenses.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 17:35:28
Grim Reaper 
Gothic Chess is my intellectual property. I have your signature on a document stating that my name will appear with ALL descriptions of that intellectual property being represented on BrainKing.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:21:19
FilsdeTycho 
Temo: Re: "Inactive players" removed
AbigailII: Thank you Fencer and AbigailII for your kind explanations. I had the false impression that the BKR were erased since I've just started a new Janus Chess game (ID: 999199) and no BKR appears around the board as usual ("not ranked" message, only).

Again, if BKR remain unchanged there is no problem at all!

Thank you... and let's play!

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:04:39
AbigailII 
Temo: Re: "Inactive players" removed
tycho: Your BKR for Janus Chess is not unknown - it's 1238. You are, however, no longer listed in the charts. I didn't get the impression that inactivity (or activity) is taken in account when calculating the ratings. Only the fact whether or you you're in the list matters. So, for paying members, one quick draws against someone with a similar rating twice a year is enough to keep you in the charts.

This is unlike say, the rating system on FICS, where they, beside keeping the rating, also keep a stat that measures activity - it's an indication how good established your rating is. The more you play, the less your rating will fluctuate (but the more it can fluctuate the rating of your opponent). If you play less, your rating fluctuates more after a win or loss. So, on FICS, having played 400 games way back means a new win or loss can change your rating a loss (just like you have only played a few games here), much more so than if you have only played 20, but all of the recently. And the same statistic is used to determine whether your rating is established or not. So if you have played 400 games the past month, you can be inactive for a lot longer before your drop of the charts than when you have played 20 games in the past month.

While I prefer to have a system like FICS, I think this new system (dropping of the charts if you haven't finished a game in the past 6 months) is better than the old one.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:00:25
Fencer 
Temo: Re: "Inactive players" removed
tycho: Have a look at your Profile, Finished Games tab. The only difference is in the Position column, where some values are replaced by "-". Nothing else changes.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 13:58:31
Fencer 
Temo: Re: "Inactive players" removed
tycho: Who's talking about erasing some scores? Nothing is being erased, BKRs stay as they are, only some of them don't appear on the chart pages.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 13:45:51
furbster 
Are the red things on our profiles the games we have to play in to get back on the ratings chart?

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 13:44:19
FilsdeTycho 
Temo: "Inactive players" removed
Modifita de FilsdeTycho (24. Aŭgusto 2005, 13:54:00)
Dear Fencer,

They are some reactions on the French speaking forum concerning the removal of "inactive players". It appears quite brutal (it should have been annouced in order to allow us to reactivate some games). The period of 6 months appears short (they are so many games and we appreciate very much brainking for that).

Would it be possible NOT to clear the BKR of so-called inactive players (I was disappointed to notice that my BKR for Janus chess is now unknow). I understand that the display of ranking could not take into account inactive players (it is not a bad idea, I agree) but erasing previous scores is a bit brutal, I think!

Finally, rankings are not so important and will not affect my pleasure on brainking.com!

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 13:42:59
furbster 
The majoirty of my ratings either stayed teh same or went down :'(

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:40:20
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Chessmaster1000: 1) I don't want to start a fight here. 2) Because some games had been restored in the past and the BKR was calculated twice for them, so the results were not accurate. Now they are.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:38:32
Chessmaster1000 
Modifita de Chessmaster1000 (24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:38:52)
For example my Dark Chess rating WAS ~ 1550.
Now it IS ~1950.
I can't understand why????????????

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:37:31
Chessmaster1000 
1)OK don't challenge your superiority of decisions, i'm just curious to see the reason behind your decision.......Can you give it to me please.......?

2)But a recalculation of the BKRs should have the same results for any number of times this recalculation will be done. I mean if now you re-recalculate the BKRs then we should have the SAME EXACT results for every player, excluding the players had a 2700. So for me for example, that didn't hit any 2700 BKR, my BKR should stay the same. But this happens if and only if the recalculation has been made only with the change for the 2700 limit. But since my BKRs changed, then something other must changed on the process of the calculation of the BKRs. Did you changed anything else......?

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:33:15
Expired 
Temo: Re:
Fencer: That's good. Thanks.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:29:11
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
reza: Well, I can add a switch to include inactive players on the chart pages.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:28:38
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Chessmaster1000: 1) Because I wanted to. 2) Because I recalculated all BKRs from the beginning, just to reflect this change.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:25:45
Expired 
Temo: Re:
Chessmaster1000: And where did the inactive players go to?

Isn't there a way to see them too?

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:22:43
Chessmaster1000 
Modifita de Chessmaster1000 (24. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:24:02)
2 Questions:

1)Since Ed Trice is the inventor of Gothic Chess and since you include the other inventors of the games, why you removed his name........?

2)My rating on some games increased and on some decreased and as PlayBunny said this happened to him too. And you said that this is because the 2700 limit has been removed. But i can't see how this affects in any way the ratings! Except the cases when a player had a 2700 and stayed there after winning some games-but that doesn't happened in any of my games or PlayBunny's. So....

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 10:57:45
Fencer 
Temo: Re: Actively playing
AbigailII: The former is correct. Only the time of the last finished rated game counts, nothing else.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 10:56:34
AbigailII 
Temo: Actively playing
Your rating drops off the charts if you're not active in a game for 6 months (paying) or 1 month (non-paying). It isn't clear to mean what active means. Does it mean you should have finished a game in the past 6/1 month(s)? Or could I just start 10 win match with a 30 day move period, move once a month, and stay on the charts forever, without my rating changing? I hope it's the former.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 10:36:11
Fencer 
Temo: Re: BKR changes.
playBunny: It's the result of removing the max 2700 value. The BKRs were recalculated from the very beginning with this small change.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 10:34:18
playBunny 
Temo: Re: BKR changes.
Modifita de playBunny (24. Aŭgusto 2005, 10:34:38)
Fencer: I've found that my backgammon rating has gone up by 34 and more. Is that an expected result of the "clearout"? And, out of curiousity, is there any way for me to find where these extra points came from?

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 09:40:08
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Grim Reaper: Because I removed it.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 09:17:08
Grim Reaper 
At this link...

http://brainking.com/en/SelectGameType

I see:

Extinction Chess
Very original chess variation invented by R. Wayne Schmittberger.

Knight Relay Chess
Very interesting chess variant, invented by Mannis Charosh in 1972.

Grand Chess
Grand Chess (by Christian Freeling) is a chess variant played on 10x10 board.

...yet my name was removed from Gothic Chess.

Why is it no longer there?

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 08:57:47
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Grim Reaper: Sure because the chart task runs once an hour, at 35 mins.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 08:56:41
Grim Reaper 
Temo: Re:
Fencer: I swear I saw some oldies on that list when I first posted that message, but they are gone now!

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 08:36:31
Fencer 
They did.

24. Aŭgusto 2005, 08:27:16
Grim Reaper 
Weren't inactive players suppose to drop off of the rating lists?

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 18:15:24
Artful Dodger 
Temo: Re: Woo Hooo....Fencer
Fencer: OK. ;)

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 15:01:46
Andersp 
Temo: Re: Translator
Marfitalu: I think it means that the translation can be done later too

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 11:22:39
Fencer 
Temo: Re: Translator
Marfitalu: Yes, it can be done. Later.

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 08:39:59
Fencer 
Temo: Re: Woo Hooo....Fencer
ArtfulDodger: Glad to hear it. Don't forget to send a photo of you wearing them.

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 06:30:00
Artful Dodger 
Temo: Woo Hooo....Fencer
My tshirt and cap arrived. VERY NICE!!!!!!

Your wife does excellent work.

;)

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 05:24:09
skipinnz 
Temo: Re: Upgrades
playBunny: Big one is to win the tourney first. LOL

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 02:42:31
playBunny 
Temo: Re: Upgrades
BIG BAD WOLF, Fiona: Thanks. Sounds like plenty of options there.

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 02:29:46
coan.net 
Temo: Re: Upgrades
playBunny: I think Fencer can do it a few ways. One will be that your rook membership will start right away, then when that is over, you can have your additional 4 months of Knight.

But if you talk to him, he may go ahead and "covert" your 4 months of knight membership for 2 extra months of rook membership. I'm not 100% sure of this - best to do is just message him and ask.... he will work with you.

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 02:23:44
Fiona 
Temo: Re: Upgrades
playBunny: i would think the rook membership starts when the knight expires

23. Aŭgusto 2005, 02:19:05
playBunny 
Temo: Upgrades
If a Knight, expiring in four months time, buys or wins a Rook 6-month subscription today, how does it work?

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 22:53:44
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Chessmaster1000: Just a minor change, no 2700 maximum.

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 22:53:16
Chessmaster1000 
And what about this recalculation? Does the system of calculation of the BKR will be changed dramatically or just minor changes......?

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 22:39:21
Fencer 
Temo: Re:
Nuno Miguel: Nothing will disappear. Some positions will be changed, though, because many inactive players will disappear from the charts.

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 22:33:03
Nuno Miguel 
on main page we have our rated game types and the positions. this will disappear after wednesday or just the ranking on the charts?
thanks

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 16:54:32
ScarletRose 
Temo: Re:
ClayNashvilleTn: Don't even think about taking the easy way out bud!!!!

besides.. that site has been down for 3 days now! *giggle*

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:41:34
ClayNashvilleTN 
Temo: Re:
harley:Actually, thats why I asked, to benefit the new players.

"DANG" there are way too many features on BK.
Think I'll just mosey on over to IYT where it isn't sooooo easy to get confused.


22. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:29:51
ClayNashvilleTN 

22. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:28:00
harley 
Modifita de harley (22. Aŭgusto 2005, 14:30:01)
LOL give it a try and see if its what you were looking for!

*edited to add... don't ever be embarrassed asking about something. If you don't know, then there will be other people that don't either so you're doing all those people a favour too.

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