Congrats to TC...the winner!! ;)

Thanks Vikings, I thought I didn't have much experience either. Just wanted your ok first. I joined!

Eriisa: go ahaid and join, you don't have that much experience that it would be unfair

Vikings: I had wanted to join, but I got a rating.

only 3 more people needed for the unrated players pond, a few players are in it with low ratings so this is a good one to learn the game
http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=1303&trnst=0

Nightstorm: TYVM for Ur time
and help

:o)

mrloupcity: mr loups neck 1700-4000 Nackgammon

I still don't know how to put tourneys on.
TYVM

:o)

ive created some quick tournament games for anyone interested, backgammon and others!

http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=11680&trnst=0
one


and two:
http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=11681&trnst=0

ScarletRose: A record chess game between Nikolic - Arsovic (Belgrade 1989), with 269 moves.

Chess is infinite: There are 400 different positions after each player makes one move apiece. There are 72,084 positions after two moves apiece. There are 9+ million positions after three moves apiece. There are 288+ billion different possible positions after four moves apiece. There are more 40-move games on Level-1 than the number of electrons in our universe. There are more game-trees of Chess than the number of galaxies (100+ billion), and more openings, defences, gambits, etc. than the number of quarks in our universe!

The longest Chess game theoretically possible is 5,949 moves.

for more, see the fs ;)

It's unlikely that a chess game would go over 100 or even 75 for that matter. But I've played many games that neared the 75 mark.

DanDanDan: Wow.. Maybe a Worlds Record?? :)

lovelysharon: I think it's cool that you two have played a game so long with so many moves. keep it up for sixy more and you might have the record ;)

I wasn´t criticizing. I just stated this case as an example of a long lasting game without having slower players... :)

congrats Jason... 996 moves to be exact...

lovelysharon: ;) Its been a great game neck and neck for hundreds of moves

sorry I don't follow general chat... and it may be my style of play in this type game that has made it last so long... not giving up now... :) although i do believe Jason may have it...

Andre Faria: And the winner has already been determined! Fencer is unwise for not upgrading the system so that in tournaments like this winners are declared as soon as they are mathematically assured, even if all games are not finished. Even ****** IYT has that.

lovelysharon: Yep, I know. I stated that in the general chat. Almost 3 moves/day.

In this kind of games there´s a big risk of someone being stucked for more than a year...

Andre Faria: I know seems my game with Jason is holding things up there... but we've been moving right along... now at move 989.. :)

http://brainking.com/pt/Tournaments?trg=4259&tri=12397

Pioneer54: I'm still playing in a tourney that started:

24. November 2004, 06:05:17

I was a knight when I renewed but found I couldn't play in any tourneys. When I looked at all of the running tourneys I was no longer playing in but they were still running, I realised it would be months before I could even join any new ones. So I went to the rook membership.

You really have to plan carefully if you join a tourney. Even the 7 day tourneys can take a long long time. ;)

Re: on Time

I sympathize with BG's earlier comments. I've entered quite a few tournaments with longer time limits, thinking that would not matter, and MAN, DID I EVER GET BURNED!!? Now I'm stuck in events, including some in which I finished my games many weeks ago, due to the fact that one player or another--who has way too many games going--is moving almost constantly at the "11th hour".

Nothing to do but wait.... and wait.... and wait.... and wait.... However, when browsing the tournament list, I no longer even consider those listings that have time limits greater than 5 days, and I'm even a bit hesitant at that level.

It has been argued that an access problem or emergency could cause some timeouts. I thought that is what the "autovac" policy was for. Even so, I would rather deal with that than the slow play alternative; after all, there will be other tournaments, other times.

rod03801: thanks ;)

By clicking on the individual game, and scrolling down to the move list.

Bry: wow...that's a looooooong tourney. How can you tell when it started?

DanDanDan: Oldest Running Tournament??

Here

7 days time limit....... Only 15 Players....

Started 22nd May 2003.

baddessi: thx.....

redfrog: you must be! Good luck with that!

I must be crazy...1800 limit...first 4 to sign

Bry: My guess is that your 21 day tourneys finish in about the same time a 7 day move tourney would. Generally speaking. There's always acceptions.

I just played in a backgammon tourney, can't remember the time controls, but I went to bed with no moves in any games, and woke up to having timed out in three of my games! whoah.

BG: Apologies - that wasn't directed at you, I was agreeing with your comments - it's like Eriisa has stated others see the 21 days and go on and on and on and on and on about it being too long.

BG: Mine was a general comment not a reply to you.

Why do some people seem to take great delight in holding tournaments up? I don't know. Perhaps they want to see the other's results first. Perhaps they have too many games.
I don't know a way of avoiding them other than restricting oneself to the fast tournaments, but even then...

Sorry Eriisa, I was directing my comments at bumble.

I knew that, BG. I just didn't want you thinking that we thought different.

Go back and read what I said. I am not complaining about Bry's tournament, which I have not joined.

I think the bottom line is, Bry's backgammon tournaments remain among the most popular on BK.
And of course anyone is entitled to promote their tournament here. And of course anyone is entitled to express their opinion. This is the Tournaments discussion board.

As Bry says, though, you know the set up of the tournament before it starts. If you accept that, sign up. If you don't accept it, then don't sign up. There are plenty of other tournaments, or create your own with your preferences as to
game time etc.

BG: Its not you that he meant was moaning, BG. There are others to scream, cry and stamp their feet about it!

Who's moaning? I am untitled to my considered opinion. What it will do is make me consider more carefully before I renew my membership again. This board is better served by people who play timeously than others.

BG: Yes, you may be right. I think there are pro's and con's. You either join them or you dont - time for people to stop moaning about it when a link is posted.

We've had the discussions on time limits and sportsmanship many times already so perhapos this should be the last post on the subject.

I like your approach Bry, but some players take a pride in moving slowly. Their attitude is that if you don't like it don't join tournaments that they are in. As these people tend to enter every tournament going, it can make tournaments very frustrating when three months after everyone else have finished they are holding up their section of the tournament. Naturally all this is legitimate, because as they argue they are not doing anything wrong. I would argue that it is not within the spirit of gamesmanship.

baddessi:

The reality is most people move every day. Yes there are some players who use more of the time, but if you have a number of games going, you can cope with one or two not moving very fast.

I remember a few weeks back, Chessmaster 1000 had real problems getting online and timed-out in quite a high number of games. If these games would have had a higher time limit, they would not have timed out. Having a higher time limit would not have affected how often CM1000 moved, and more often than not the opponents too.

I move usually every day - the only reason I choose 21 days for my tournaments is so that, should I have any problems with access, I know my games will not time out, BUT it doesn't stop me making moves on the games every day, nor many many others.

I have to say that since I'm on often, I love the fast tourneys. When work is slow, or it's the weekend, I can rush through them quickly- sometimes if my opponents are on line- it's great to have a one on one and finish it right away! Very fun.
I also like the ones I'm not under pressure to move every day when work picks up. Since this sight gives you so much flexibility, why not enjoy both kinds? I do!
I love your tourneys Bry. There's always great competative players in them. I'm in!

frolind: Correct.

If you dont want to join then dont. If you do, good luck and enjoy it.

Exactly - if you like it, join. If not, then don't join. There are plenty of tournaments with many different limits for everyone - so instead of complaining about ones you do not like, it's much beter to just join the ones that fits your needs the best.

This is commented every time Bry posts his tournaments here. Time to just accept Bry's preferences?

BIG BAD WOLF: That seems eminently sensible for chess perhaps, but backgammon!!! Who needs more than a minute or two to make a backgammon move? If everybody took 21 days the first round could take two to three years!!

BG: That is the time allowed per move

Bry: Is time for the game (21 days) the time from the beginning to the end of the game, or time per move?

Backgammon Tournament.

Click Here

rod03801: i agree. Anybody who needs to set up a tournament which starts more than a month in advance has a serious problem. Maybe this should be moved to "Feature requests" to see if we can get some sanity to tournament setup!