Why doesn't a tournament page show the current score of the match instead of a useless dash?

It really stinks that (I) Kiwiyeti is holding up this tournament:
All about Pente!
and (II) that Fencer won't change things so that tournaments advance once a round winner is determined, even if all games are not complete. Slow play is fine, meaninglessly holding up a tournament is not.

If I suspect that a player is cheating (using software to play way above his BKR) in a prize tournament, what would be the proper course of action?

Groeneveld: Please don't be sore at me! I said what you said. Your English was difficult to understand.

I am only a knight, so I cannot create tournaments.

MidnightMcMedic: I think he was asking to have an Alquerque tourney set up.

Dolittle: That player was probably unrated when (s)he signed up, but has since become rated.

MidnightMcMedic: Thanks, MMM, but last time I posted there I got banned. Let's just say that due to the head mod there, the board is not worth reading, IMO, and leave it at that. I see now, that if I change the selection, I can see info (or the price at least) for a lifetime membership. Perhaps the Paid membership page could use an update to make that membership level a little more visible. ;-)

First, I realize this isn't quite the right board, but...

I was wandering atround BK and I noticed that Tanein's rook is black. A click on her profile revealed that she is a rook forever! How cool!! How does one become a lifetime rook member?

Thanks,
Thad

red dragon: Ah, that makes sense. ;-)

Um, it's really sweet that you are all resigning your games, but is everyone going to do that? He'll win the tournament and the 6-month membership. With all respect, does that make sense? Or else you'll have one clod who does not resign and takes the section (or tournament) win in a most unsportsmanlike way. Please don't flame me. I'm just looking at the bigger picture.

Could anyone who still has active games in the Cardhu team Pente tournament please make an effort to make moves in those games more frequently and finish up those games. The players in the second round have already been determined and there are just a handful of games remaining that are holding up round two.

Thanks,
Thad

KotDB: But that would be harder to keep track of, harder to verify, & harder to code. ;-)

Just thinking here. If the lower seated player is to advance in the case of a draw, what happens if Al & Bob are playing a tournament match and Al is higher at the start, but then Al loses a regular game to Carl and his rating goes down to below what Bob's is. Al's was higher at the start of the match, but Bob's was higher at the end. So who advances?

Sorry, I don't have a good solution to this, just thought it should be brought up.

rabbitoid: That still leaves a problem in games line Pente where P1 enjoys a strong advantage. For average players, this doesn't really matter, but just as in Chess where strong play on both sides results in a draw, strong play by both sides will produce a win for P1.

BIG BAD WOLF: Is it probable that there are multiple rounds in most tournaments? I would say that there are probably are, or maybe not. Let's multiply some numbers together and calculate the probability.

rod03801: "Fencer is working on an improved tournament system"

Woo-hoo!

tmm43: Link:
http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=12736&trnst=0

Can a team change players between rounds of a team tourney?

Espionage championships

I made it for all variants, though. ;-)

Nothingness: I did my best, http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=12181

Mathematically, there is no way for GuineaPig´s Club & HOME to each finish anywhere other than first place in their respective sections in the current anti-chess team tournament. Why not start round two now? Why make us wait??

eagle eye: Yeah, I think so.

eagle eye: You can make it start by changing the time to yesterday (or 15 minutes ago, etc.). Give the system 10 minutes to catch it and it should begin.

Vikings: Aren't team tournament games tournament games?

In the selection box, where I can choose which game to go to next as I submit a move, my team Pente games are not marked as tournament games.

Mathematically, there is no way for GuineaPig´s Club & HOME to each finish anywhere other than first place in their respective sections in the current anti-chess team tournament. Why not start round two now? Why make us wait??

BIG BAD WOLF: BK is already doing all the checking it needs to. It just needs to be smarter about it's decisions...unless BK is written is a poor way currently, whick I hope it's not.

There has to be a check now everytime a (tournament) game is completed to see if the players involved have completed all their games. If they have, certain things happen (declaring winners, starting next rounds, etc.) Instead of checking to see if all games are complete, and then doing the things needed, BK should be smart enough to tell if a section win is assured and perform the next tasks right then, even if all games are not complete.

Even the wrost game site I know of, IYT, has this feature. If they can do it, BK can. ;-)

Fencer,

Why won't you change the system so that upper rounds of tournaments start as soon as the outcome of the previous round is assured? For example, in this tourney, http://brainking.com/en/TeamTournaments?tri=52&trnst=10 the teams seeded first in both brackets will advance, even if they each lose every remaining game. There is no reason to make us sit around and wait for the next round to start. PLEASE, please, please make it so that upper rounds start as soon as they can.

Thad

Andre Faria: And the winner has already been determined! Fencer is unwise for not upgrading the system so that in tournaments like this winners are declared as soon as they are mathematically assured, even if all games are not finished. Even ****** IYT has that.

BIG BAD WOLF: The solution is to automate the removal process. I woukld consider not having this built into BK as a bug!

The best solution would be if the system automatically removed anyone AS SOON as they became ineligible. ;-)

ClayNashvilleTn:

Grim Reaper: Tell Alexis she should fix this tournament so I win and she can come to Hawaii! ;-)

Lady Temper: New timing settings have been added to BrainKing, so tournaments in the future should not have this problem, but I don't think there's much you can do now but wait it out.

Pedro Martínez: But if you compare losses, it doesn't make sensse. If we use the section I mentioned a few posts down, JackS & I each ended up with only one loss and everyone else had more. Clearly we will finish 1-2. JackS lost to me, so he lost to either the first or second place guy. I, on the other hand, lost ot a lesser ranked player. when you look at it that way, it seems that JackS should advance.

S-Bs work when everyone does not play everyone else. For example, it would work in the NFL where every team does not play every other team. It is essentially a measurement of strenght of schedule. But since it's used here at BK inside sections, where we all play each other, it is meaningless.

Hrqls: What do you mean?

I think S-Bs stink and should be eliminated. If two players tie with the same win/loss record, they both should move on to the next round. How do others feel?

Backoff: That only happens when the top two players both lose to the same lower rated player, which is not the case here. He lost to me and I lost to someone else.

I think S-Bs should be eliminated and players who tie for section wins with identical win/loss records should both move on. Since we're not doing tournaments with set brackets when it starts, like professional tennis tournaments or the NCAA basketball tourneys, an extra player (or players) advancing won't affect things much, but will make tourneys more enjoyable and fair (IMO).

BIG BAD WOLF: Please explain to me who is going to win Section 1 of this tournament:
http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?tri=41627#1

frolind: A ten wins final match!?!

Backoff: I thought Knights were allowed one tournament per game type and that Pawns were allowed only one single tournament at a time.

Hrqls: Nothing & no.

furbster: I agree, the system should not let you sign up if you are over 1500 (or whatever the limit is) and it should check again when it starts. This should be done automatically.

SunFire: BeaverBoy brought it up, then he and shagglbrox accused me of being wrong. Obviously my last post proved that I was right. But perhaps we can close the book on IYT now.

The bottom line is that ties are ok, if a game, match, or tournament is played to a tie, but not when the tying players never face each other. Also, if a tournament is co-won, there should be something indicating so.

You are all wrong. There have been ties there in the past as I have said. Look at Ilurath's profile:
>http://itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll?userprofile?userid=15200000661830


He "won" the August 2002 Main #1 Tournament in pente. Now look at Dmitri King's profile:
>http://itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll?userprofile?userid=15200000385955


He also "won" the same tournament! The standings at the end of the 'final' round are here:
>http://itsyourturn.com/iyt.dll?tourn_showplayers?id=265&gmtypeid=42&r=9&type=2&st=1&range=10


I don't care what the rules at IYT say, they are obviously not correct.

SunFire: I doubt you won because your BKR was lowest. You probably were awarded the win because your S-B score was highest. Which tournament was it?

BeaverBoy: Ae.

BeaverBoy: You are wrong, Beaverboy. Tournaments at ITY do not always go until there is a winner. I know there are tournaments listed in their history that have two winners. If I knew the date of one, I would post it here, but offhand, I do not. I will try and go back and find one when I get a chance so you'll have proof.

PS: 3 rounds with just 2 players ain't any big deal. I've gone nine rounds there more than once. And I know I've gone at least five with just one other player. ;-)

JamesHird: Absolutely. I'd feel better about second place if I had played partica in my tournament and lost than I do about being the 'winner' of it.

BeaverBoy: No they do not.