Tuesday: I used to jump into bed with my folks when I was a kid,but to my knowledge niether my mom or dad would invite other kids to spend the night in their bedroom

Jim Dandy:

Tuesday: But come on... no difference between letting your own children sleep in a bed with you, and a homosexual adult letting minor boys that he is not related to sleep with him????

Czuch: I think people sometimes buy into the 'Peter Pan' image he nurtured.If he was fat,unshaven, and drove a bus it would be percieved very differently IMO

Jim Dandy: Exactly. Or if he were a white guy sleeping with black boys Sharpton would sing a different tune.

Tuesday: Czuch: Where did you get he was homosexual?

There are many people within his "handlers group" that have admitted he has taken home the random gay waiter from restaurants etc... he supposedly had many gay encounters over the years....

Tuesday: If (as I've never seen any proof) Michael J had the skin disease then by all means he had the right to sort out that problem... But he started changing his appearance before the skin disorder became publicly known.

IMO many of his family were affected. Looking at how some of his brothers and sisters talk and look Michael was not the only one to suffer from his fathers wrath. He was just the most evident of the affect of long term abuse.

I'm not dissing him, just being honest in my thoughts.

There have been many cases come to light of long term abuse recently.. especially about one in Austria.... It can devastate a persons emotional growth.

As to him committing homosexual acts with these kids... unknown. But statistically the odds are that he might have had some out of the norm emotional deviations. Yet thanks to the first case being settled out of court, unless someone opens up we will never be quite sure.

Tuesday: Michael gave up his life to sharks, that is sad for this man. That is the lesson, make your own coffee yourself, choose the color of your socks yourself, wash yourself in the bathroom. Not the you and me kind of problems.

Tuesday: Michael was fine, but if i would have been the one helping him, I would have destroyed his ego to start with. He didn't need the excess, nobody needs.

gogul: And that can be more destructive if done. Such destruction has been likened to taking a sledge hammer to a brick wall surrounded by glass houses.

Brick by brick is a better method.

(V): I don't run away after I destroyed something.

Here's a bridge to politics please: brick by brick... I'm bored with it. It's called salami taktic over here, the Americans say filibuster I think.

gogul: Why destroy? why not change!!

"I can see that in political processes you usually break down. Why so?"

???????

(V): It should be brake, my bad.

Yes, destroy. Btw with care, not everything.

gogul: Destroy with care. Wunderschön.

Pedro Martínez: Lets bust China. Get the Wall Street journal for background.

gogul: This IS a grey wolf. China is selling rubish to the world, and even worse trash to Africa, and the Chinese want cash for that? No way.

gogul: ?? Brake?!?!?!?

..... undo not destroy I feel is a more appropriate phrase.

(V): And I can see that in political processes you usually break down. Why so? It's our job to make fire under politicians bums.

Tuesday: suffered the most... any info on why?

Tuesday: He sure did. It might have been just an age factor, or that his dad had gotten better at such acts... who knows!!

Tuesday: Or gotten wiser... But reflection was not a widely taught thing back then.

..... Shame.

Tuesday: I think quite a few people can see MJ in themselves.

And that you can see, is a change and break from not seeing.

Tuesday: Yep.