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13. 三月 2009, 12:01:40
The Usurper 
题目: Re: And Bwild is right, all these scriptures have been doctored, not to mention mistranslated to support various dogmas.
(V): "Quite frankly, in America religion has become too much of a business."

I think the larger issue is materialism over spirituality, which is a fault of all western religions & also western science. Science is changing by degrees as new mysteries are explored and the old pat answers are found to be inadequate.

Eastern religious and philosophical thought is definitely a guiding light both to science & religion in this regard.

In America's case, the word "materialism" ought to be exchanged for "crass materialism" or "gross materialism." You are correct, in that in some of the religious branches, most notably some fundamental (but not all) and some pentecostal (but not all) & charismatic groups, materialism has gained the upper hand until material prosperity is a mark of God's approbation almost beyond anything else, and what's more, God is there like a puppet to answer all prayer for wealth according to the petitioner's faith. As Blavatsky rightly surmised, any kind of prayer or meditation or "magic" for purely selfish motives is necessarily "black magic."

So these TV preachers, the televangelists, the faith healers, these are the con artists that unfortunately all these ignorant Christian masses, none of whom apparently can "discern the spirits," fall prey to & hand over their money for blessings. It's to the point now that any sincere seeker for a spiritual faith, or any disinterested observer, can immediately see through the manipulation & is turned off from Christianity as a result. And that is a shame, because of what you suggest....that "there is much to see," if one knows where & how to look.

13. 三月 2009, 13:02:37
Mort 
题目: Re: And Bwild is right, all these scriptures have been doctored, not to mention mistranslated to support various dogmas.
The Usurper: I'm not turned off, I just have a natural scepticism for someone who drives around in a limo wearing expensive clothing (that was supposed to go on the cause to defeat the devil!!) and says they represent God.

As for Spirit... it's all aRoUnD us. It's a shame when people rather go around damning people in the name of Christ, rather then just stop, slow down the mind and listen, feel, hear ;)

14. 三月 2009, 10:51:27
gogul 
题目: Re: And Bwild is right, all these scriptures have been doctored, not to mention mistranslated to support various dogmas.
The Usurper: lol Blavatsky. Her "Secret Doctrine" fell in my hands years ago and I finally sold it to finance the rook here which was pretty surprising. Honestly these books where a dust catcher in the second row of my library hehe

14. 三月 2009, 11:10:31
The Usurper 
题目: Re: And Bwild is right, all these scriptures have been doctored, not to mention mistranslated to support various dogmas.
gogul: She is dense reading and even the earlier "Isis Unveiled" has its tough spots. The "Secret Doctrine" can be well nigh impenetrable in places. No surprise it was a dust catcher. A fairly accessible book by her is "The Key to Theosophy," and well worth reading.

After Blavatsky's passing, The Theosophical Society splintered and its largest branch became a forerunner of the New Age movement and all sorts of hocus-pocus. But from a smaller branch, the writings of G. de Purucker, mainly philosophical but varied, are pretty excellent.

14. 三月 2009, 12:45:40
gogul 
题目: Re: And Bwild is right, all these scriptures have been doctored, not to mention mistranslated to support various dogmas.
The Usurper: ok thanks that. I have some antroposophic people nearby, she played a role in Steiners biography.

14. 三月 2009, 12:56:24
The Usurper 
题目: Re: And Bwild is right, all these scriptures have been doctored, not to mention mistranslated to support various dogmas.
gogul: Great! Steiner started out a theosophist but left the society when the (by then) neo-theosophical leaders started to promote & teach absurdities. I've only read his book, "Knowledge of the Higher Worlds," which is pretty heady stuff.

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