Tuesday: Reading back I get the feeling you think I was talking directly to you.....well I wasn't, I was generalising.....

If you took it personal, well I'm sorry, but you are the one out of place, not I.

There was no attack on you at all, so .......!

Bernice: LMBO!

Tuesday: oops!!!.....alright, I will come down to your level......

Tuesday: It is difficult.
They are saying that we need more sex education in the Uk now because of this.
I would have have thought they already knew how to do sex and needed to know how to say no?

Mousetrap: well disown is a bit strong, but for sure there would be "hell to pay" LOL

Tuesday: who are you talking about? now I am confused...

What is the answser? I know if it were me my parents would disowne me. Is that good or bad?

Bernice: Well! You can bet your life that the parents of the 12 and 15 year old will pay.
Plus why advertise it? They are gonna get money for tv and newspaper reports.
It is the parents responsibilty to ensure this does not happen in the first place.
I know parents cant be watching 24 hours a day but heck. Whetre is the common sense? They must have been allowed to do it somewhere!

Tuesday: yes but again...it was YOUR decision...as I said below...get up and get over it LOL

Tuesday: yep....verbal, emotional, personal.....as you say...it kills but you recover.
and one of the first ways to recover is to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get on with life :)

Bernice: Josef Stehlík, a Czech name, meaning Joseph the Goldfinch, LOL.

Bernice:  Ouch. 

Wife exercised man to his death

The Daily Telegraph

15 February 2009

AN elderly man was "exercised to death" by his wife - who forced him to swim even as he gasped for breath.

Christine Newton-John, 41, has pleaded guilty to reckless homicide after her 73-year-old husband James Mason died after being forced to swim to the point that he suffered a heart attack.

Surveillance video footage showed Newton-John, a transgender, pulling Mason around the pool by his arms and legs, Middlefield police Chief Joseph Stehlik said.

He said he counted 43 times in which Newton-John prevented her husband from leaving the water.

Mason rested his head on the side of the pool several times while gasping for breath.

"The man was exercised to death," Chief Stehlik said.

"The video is bone-chilling. The whole case is very sinister."

Mason had a heart attack on June 2 after the extended swim session.

Mason had been a longtime friend of his wife's family.

He knew her as John Vallandingham before she had gender reassignment surgery in 1993 and changed her name in honour of Olivia Newton-John, the singer and star of the hit movie Grease.

The couple were wed in 2006 in Kentucky, where people can change their gender on their birth certificate.

But authorities said the marriage was troubled and Mason was subjected to years of abuse.

"I think he was victimised for years by her," Chief Stehlik said.

An officer who had investigated previous complaints that Mason was being abused pursued the case because he suspected there was more to the death, Chief Stehlik said.

Newton-John was charged with her husband's death last week and pleaded guilty. She faces up to five years in prison.

The video would have had a profound effect on a jury, Geauga County prosecutor David Joyce said.

But that would not have been enough for a conviction if Newton-John had been charged with murder.

"You can see the man struggling for his life on the tape, but there is no audio, so we couldn't hear what he was saying," Mr Joyce said.

Before her arrest, Newton-John had the gumption to threaten the owner of the apartment complex with a lawsuit over Mason's death.

Artful Dodger: yes she has got that same look doesn't she.....but unfortunately she don't have the moolah.........(money)

Artful Dodger: ive just seen where the same doctor is in the spotlight again over a 49 year old woman who is now having quads
the link i was going to use wouldnt show up on here

Bernice: Did you know that the mother looks a lot like Angelina Jolee?

hehehe.....Im not changing the post to you....it is fun ROFL.........

ArtfulI thought there would have to be some kind of ethics.............. Dodger:

Bernice: There is an understanding that you don't implant that many.  Other doctors have condemned his actions. 

Burris is getting thrashed in a press conference and it's clear that he's lied under oath and people are calling for his resignation.  lol   The guy is stammering over and over trying to spin away his guilt.  If he doesn't get booted from the Senate the the process is truly corrupt.  What an idiot.    

Artful Dodger: yes I would have thought the Dr. would have had to have some responsibility but then there is no guarantee that the implants are going to take is there?

and she should be monitored closely to see how thekids are looked after.

Bernice: Some are asking the question as to what to do now.  For some, there is the suggestion that the doctor that performed the procedure (the implanting) should lose his license, be fined, or my favorite, he should bear the financial responsibility of raising the 8 kids.  That would cure this sort of thing happening again.

The woman, clearly touched in the head and incapable of raising all 14 kids, should lose them all.  They need to investigate her competency and I think they will. 

Artful Dodger: yep.....

Bernice:  she needs a bailout 

Artful Dodger: YOU??? heheheheheh

seriously ....yes I had heard and of course the Govt. is paying, who else.... did you hear....she has been written into Obamas financial policy

Bernice:You heard about the lady here in the States that had 8 kids?  I mean all at once?  She already had 6 at home.  And she's not married, not working, and lives with her mom and dad.  Some unethical doctor implanted 8 embryos and she carried them as long as she could.  She was as big as an elephant.  Guess who is  paying for it all? 

Carnal knowledge is an archaic or legal euphemism for sexual intercourse.The word "carnal" derives from latin carnalis, meaning "fleshly", and the word "knowledge" in this phrase derives from the "Biblical sense" of the word, which means "sexual relations".

In criminology, the phrase has had different meanings at different times and in different jurisdictions. While commonly a mere euphemism for sexual intercourse (not necessarily unlawful), different jurisdictions may define carnal knowledge as a specific sex act such as contact between a penis and vagina, some laws elaborating this to include even "slight penile penetration of female genitalia". The definition sometimes includes a set of sex acts that include anal sex and/or oral sex, while some statutes specifically exclude such acts. The law may specify that the sex act must result in ejaculation, and/or orgasm. Carnal knowledge has also sometimes meant sexual intercourse outside of marriage, and sometimes refers to sex with someone under the age of consent. The phrase is often found in this sense in modern legal usage, as the term "rape" implies lack of consent, and consent is considered irrelevant to such cases.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnal_know...

Bernice:

Artful Dodger: imagine the requests from the OLD EMPIRE.....millions per day ROFL........

Bernice:Yeah, that was my fav.  lol.  As if he actually could have that kind of policy.  He'd had thousands of requests per day!  lol

Artful Dodger: the king musta been a nosy bugger

Pedro Martínez: it is an australian/nz law me thinks.....carnal knowledge being sex under the age of 16.....you can't get married under the age of 18 without your parents consent, and you cant get married (period) under the age of 16.......***edit*** with out the courts consent.

Pedro Martínez: This from Urban Legends.

Bernice:Ahhh, never heard that term but I think I know why they use it! lol. 

apparently the girl is the "town bike" there are 5-6 14-16 yearold boys claiming they could be the father.....even the neighbours are saying there were always boys sleeping over at the house.....the parents should be held responsible.

In australia the girl would be charged with having underage sex.....in fact they both would.

they call it carnal knowledge

Pedro Martínez:  How old was the girl?

is top of the poll in Europe for teenage pregnancies

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1123322

Pedro Martínez: according to tv reports here both children have had social services intervening and they say that neither will face any charge but they will help with advice on bringing the child up

which dosnt gave out a very good message to other kids

Bernice: I'm not sure about the British laws but if that happened in this country, the girl would face a criminal charge for sexual abuse...:)

Artful Dodger: from what i gather he was on a sleep over at her house geesh what did the parents expect them to be doing

Bernice: It does take two.  She needs to go to her room too. 

Snoopy: hahahahaha............but we must remember it isnt all his fault, he didn't force her to have sex surely?

Bernice: Yeah, the little twerp is on an allowance!  That will really help him.  Of course, at 13 he has no clue.  He's not even through puberty yet!  His voice hasn't changed.