Bernice, if you go to Brainking.info, there is a list of representatives that can help you with payments. Choose the one in your country and send them a message or email.

Im up for renewal beginning SEpt.
can some one please tell me the safe SAFE way to pay....I dont have paypal and have never heard of Moneybookers???? is that correct?
Im dubious...WhisperzQ can you advise?..or anybody else for that matter?

Thanks sun... Now that I am here again, it seems all is well :)

Anytime :o)

Oh, I see it now. Thanks.

I just checked and I see the Backgammom ratings, I just clicked on ratings right below winners on my home page

I had trouble getting on for a couple of days. It happens to me every once in a while. By the way, where did the backgammom ratings go from thew ratings lists?

When I had webtv. last year and I got white screens It always helped me to hit move and stay here, then click on Main Page, then click my next game.... It seemed to work good after I did it three times in a row, then I went back to normal playing

What is love? I've been lost in dreams.

Just took me forever to get on here. All white screens. I tried through a different route than normal, and got to the visitors page. It had my name and login, but still took me to a white screen. I finally tried to enter in the guest mode, and it took me right to my main page? hmmm...
I came right here, and havent tried to play any games yet. Shall see if there are any other problems like yesterday :)
Ug... I have you on my friends list, maybe that tells you something...LOL

I have a PC and never have slow playing games

I remember Fencer saying 350 members'd been on, I reckon at least 150 have me on their enemies list.

lol -- very true. Also a commo motto. :D

Besides... you know you wouldn't feel appreciated if we didn't razz you continually. ;)

There is no pleasing some people.

Fencer is *definitely* a communications guru. Our motto: blame the other guys! lol

Our logs show no unusual activity. It must have been on client side or somewhere on the network.

I'm not having trouble on either site!

itsyourturn is acting up too. Doing the same thing there as here.

where did "five in line" go on "Ratings" page?

It's slow here too.

I got a upgrade this morning, thought maybe that was the reason. Seems everytime i get one i have trouble.

it's been freezing up on me too, and very very slow. :o(

other sites are working fine!!

Hmmm.. I'm webtv, and having NO problems at all... But I also didn't have any problems a few days ago when other webtv-ers were having problems..

Tons of problems... thought it was WebTv again.... slow loading..."incomplete loading"...

I had one that wouldnt let me choose my pieces even though my turn, then it disapeared from my game list

after 3 tries...I cant get a game to fully load!!

I was earlier, not webtv

I'm not...webtv again??

anyone else expeiencing slow game loads?

So what is the formula(s) that are used in the code here to figure out ratings.

THIS PLACE is where you normally point people, but that mostly talks about games within a tournament. So like that site, does this also have 2 different formulas? (1 for people under 8 games total, and 1 for people over 8 games). That site also talks about Wins & Loses. Is that TOTAL all games win & lose for that game type, or just in that tournament?

Anyway, the whole reason I'm asking is that for the life of me, I can't figure out what is going on with the Dark Battleboats & Battleboats plus ratings. EVERY game that I finish seems to be a rating flex of 40 or more points, even after complete 100+ games. (usually by now the change is a lot smaller). And for the life of me I can't reproduce the math for the ratings of these 2 game types.

It's almost like something in the site code is pointing to the wrong "game total" value or something, which then calculates each rating wrong. (But if I can figure out exactly how the ratings are calculated on this site, hopefully I can figure it out.)

There is no way to fix it yet - that is why it is a bug.

The bug tracker is there to keep "track" of all current bugs. Once a bug is fixed, it will be closed in the Bug Tracker

I reported this sometime ago. Was told to go to the bug tracker. I did and couldn't fix it. It did n't give enough instructions on how to use, or I guess i'm just a dummy. :o) Anyway i've gotten used to it and it doesn't bother me like it did at first.

Thats what the bug thing is for, to see what has already been reported. I think? What an oxymoron, me to be thinking ROFL

**edited** for clarification that it is me and not aimed at anyone else.

Ive had my silly red 1 for a week now, i think only fencer can fix it

how does some1 get the red number off the games played after u have moved all ur turns? I did look at the bug list and I guess I don't know how to use it to find out how to fix bugs.
:o{P

like general chat, members only and brainking.com to reach a wider audience
for a general suggestion related to brainking - on many boards with narrow topic
or, without any trouble they seem a bit redundant amd irritating, though ... ~*~

Big Bad Wolf, I am sorry and it will not happen again. I thought maybe my opinion about peace and love to all was worth something and wanted everyone to see it. I shall watch my etiquette more carefully from now on and maybe keep my opinions to myself. Did not mean to start anything. I thought it might help; instead it is causing more problems. Oh well, live and learn something new each day. Thank you for taking the time to give me your message.

Yea, people like that are a real pain. What are worse are people who spam the message boards - espically on boards which are total off subject.

goes and deletes message from computer message board....

vitalik, I understand what you say and agree with you. I go into them if the subject is one I am interested in and then I see what you see, postings that have nothing to do with the topic, are annoying and are just messages to start trouble with other players. So, you and I are thinking the same. Thanks for your comments.

If all you want is to play then play, don't read fellowship messages if they bother you. I am much more annoyed by messages posted that have nothing to do with the topic.

you're all so wonderful, you make me feel so good. you prove this is a great site. i posted about what happened to us on the general chat and webtv boards.
i'm just taking a short break, have to get back to that darn tree in the pool, i wish it would get cloudy, the sun is awful, it's 100 again. yuk!

Glad Ellieoop is ok and thanks for the post floos!

I've have not personally heard from her, but have heard that there is some damage to her home, I don't know how much. But they are ok, and that is what is important.

It is very difficult for everyone here now all over the state. Most of us have found or over the last couple of days that we have friends and/or family homeless. Almost everyone here is without electricity. It is difficult for people to get to the places where they are handing out drinking water, ice for coolers and food. Gasoline lines are long for those that are lucky enough to have vehicles in workable condition, when you happen to run across a station that does have electricity and has not been blown away.

Lots and lots of help has been sent into this area, and I assume others. The Red Cross, the National Guard, electric crews from all over have come to help, but it is going to take lots of time.

It is extremely emotionally draining on everyone here, but we will all do what we have to in order to get through it ourselves and to help others in our community that haven't been as luck as a few of us are.

She can have all my vacation time. Hope all is well with her. I have family in Florida too.

Yes Fencer feel free to take some of my vacation days I think I have over 20days left. And let Ellieoop know that her and her family will be in my prays. I for 1 hope she has not lost everything. I do know what that is like.
:o{P

She told me she was going to set a few days up for vacation before the storm hit, just in case. It looks like she did, but there is no telling when her power will be back on.

We'll just have to wait and see. I mostly just wanted everyone to understand that any games she times out in, isn't her fault.

Is there anyway that Fencer could give her a couple of vacation days maybe? I mean because it is known what is going on and all..... I would gladly donate one or two of mine if it would help.

Ellieoop lives in an area of Florida that was hit by the hurricane. She is currently without power, and may be for some time.

If she times out on any games you are playing with her, I hope you will give her the chance to have them restored when her power is returned. Thanks.

The problem was MSN as I had a hard time with other sites as well last night. However later in the night it was ok.