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22. 十月 2004, 20:08:41
pauloaguia 
题目: Re: Interview with...
Is BBW's interview alreay online? I didn't noticed it... (and BKInfo site is not loading for me right now...)

22. 十月 2004, 19:30:34
harley 
题目: Interview with...
bwildman.........

I'll be putting this interview together this weekend, so if you have any last minute questions for bwildman, please send them to me in the next 24 hours!!

22. 十月 2004, 18:08:39
Stevie 
I think its a pain in the butt, and a limit of maybe 2 extensions at most be allowed in any one ocurance
It is being abused

22. 十月 2004, 17:08:20
LongJohn 
its a great idea for paying members who often never get a chance to use up their vacation days but have the peace of mind to go and take vacation whenever they wish knowing they will not time out.
A very good addition to this site by Fencer for paying members

22. 十月 2004, 16:44:32
Maxxina 
Mclaudio : Limits on vacation are 30 days per year .

22. 十月 2004, 16:23:42
bwildman 
you have to take into consideration weekends...

22. 十月 2004, 16:20:49
mclaudio 
Ok! and there are a limit of time to auto-vacations? or if the palyer it´s a paying member then he can never more played the game if he want? and make crazy things like stopped all the tournament and games he played!

22. 十月 2004, 15:55:57
coan.net 
If it's a paying member, they may have auto-vacations set.

22. 十月 2004, 15:54:28
mclaudio 
题目: tournaments
Any body can explain me why a player in a tournament who never play, the timer reset always and give him everyday one day more to play? Its happen with our tournament that never more finish because the last player never more play!!!!

22. 十月 2004, 06:55:58
Fencer 
Ladders are to be implemented.

22. 十月 2004, 06:43:52
Vikings 
here comes the L word, Ladder

22. 十月 2004, 06:26:32
coan.net 
The ratings question is something I asked months ago, but it got burried with some other subject, and I never really thought about it again until I seen the server news. I understand why you would not want to change it.

... but maybe it would be good for a turn based game site to come up with a rating system designed around this type of play, and not a rating system for a totaly different type of play - over the table/live play... again, nothing that needs to happen here right now - but something to think about.

22. 十月 2004, 06:20:06
LongJohn 
LongJohn修改(22. 十月 2004, 06:20:48)
I personally think the rating system is just fine the way it is.
There will always be points of contention, but it basically works and gives a good indication which is all we really need right ?

22. 十月 2004, 06:17:03
bwildman 
*note to BBW.....never suggest trend breaking ideas before Fencers coffee!*
LOL:)

22. 十月 2004, 06:15:03
Fencer 
As somebody pointed out, I am not going to change the system after all tests of the generator are passed and two-three days before its launch.

22. 十月 2004, 06:10:37
coan.net 
Or intruduce those little smile face icons for paying members to use on the boards, and have a little smile face with a big thumbs down.

22. 十月 2004, 06:08:46
bwildman 
n=no
y=yes
yb=your banned!! LOL:)

22. 十月 2004, 06:06:34
coan.net 
If you left of the " . " on the No., it could have been shorter! :-)

22. 十月 2004, 06:05:52
bwildman 
N

22. 十月 2004, 06:03:52
Fencer 
One day I'll find even shorter answer :-)

22. 十月 2004, 06:01:47
bwildman 
LOL:)

22. 十月 2004, 06:00:03
Fencer 
No.

22. 十月 2004, 05:55:17
coan.net 
good point IMCK - there is probable no perfect way either way since it is currently flawed. If I had to pick between the "2" systems, I would pick the one with the flaw you pointed out since you know about that before you start the game.

But lets think about this a little more - maybe there would be a beter "middle ground". Possible calculate ratings with ratings when the game started, but with current game counts?

22. 十月 2004, 05:46:17
bwildman 
good point upchuck! give the man a cigar!! ;-)

22. 十月 2004, 05:39:23
Czuch 
One problem I see is that BKR is calculated in part based on how many games have been played. If I start a game with you which lasts a year, and you finish 50 other games during that time, it wouldnt be fair anymore for my bkr to be calculated like you have played only one game.

22. 十月 2004, 05:33:59
Czuch 
Lets say it is the first game of that type for both players when the game begins. You calculate what the bkr would be if the game ended as their only completed games, then be added/subtracted from whatever their BkR really is at the end of the game.

22. 十月 2004, 05:29:48
coan.net 
When a game start, P1 is player #1 rating. P2 is players #2's ratings.

After a month or whatever, the game ends. At that time I think the calculation of rating change should use the P1 & P2 value which was from the start of the game (not current).

So using the old P1 & old P2 ratings - a change for each player is calculated.

Then that change that was calculated should adjust the current rating.

22. 十月 2004, 05:26:22
bwildman 
thats where I see the confusion,Kevin...both players ratings would have to remain the same through the duration of that particuar game...if yo have 100 plus games...how could anyone keep up?

22. 十月 2004, 05:23:36
coan.net 
Kevin - what I think should happen - have the ratings change be calculated using the ratings that the game started with. So for example, lets say player 1 gained 10 point, player 2 loses 10 points.

I then think those changes in points should then be applied to the current ratings.

bwildman - I'm bring it up now to see what others think, and if it is a good idea and Fencer agrees - it might be something to look at before he does a the major recalculations. I believe most rating systems are currently based on over the table, live games. This being an on-line site, I believe how ratings are calculated should be adjusted for this time of games.

22. 十月 2004, 05:22:46
Kevin 
So p1.new and p2.old should be used to calculate p1's new rating, and p2.new and p1.old should be used to calculate p2's new rating?

22. 十月 2004, 05:20:38
Czuch 
Your rating should change based on what your opponents rating was at the begining of your game. Then be added (or subtracted) from what your rating currently is....

22. 十月 2004, 05:19:12
Kevin 
Kevin修改(22. 十月 2004, 05:19:27)
It would definitely not affect the graphs or history in any way. It would just change the way new ratings are calculated (very likely changing many ratings...)

22. 十月 2004, 05:18:01
bwildman 
so now Fencer just spent all this time,updateing and designing this graph....and you want to change it?

22. 十月 2004, 05:15:31
Kevin 
Kevin修改(22. 十月 2004, 05:15:57)
So BBW, just to clarify: Are you suggesting that the rating INCREASE (or decrease) should be calculated based on the ratings at the beginning?

Like for example: Before the game, player 1 has a rating of 2000, and at the end of the game it's dropped to 1000. If, based on the 2000 rating their rating should increase say to 2004, should their new rating after the game be 1004?

22. 十月 2004, 05:10:23
Czuch 
You could always not play with people without ratings or with established ratings only. Or play faster games. Besides, the bkr is over rated, and often misleading anyway, and it doesnt really matter, since the object is to have fun, isnt it?

I vote make it what ever it is when the game starts.

22. 十月 2004, 04:56:05
coan.net 
题目: Ratings calculation
Just to bring back up the conversation about what ratings is best to calculate the rating (the rating when the game first started, or ended)

As an example, I just got a rating in Anti-Froglet of 1337 - that is with 6 wins, no loses! Why so low? because by the time the games ended, the other players ratings were all under 800.

I played those games with good rated players (well unrated - probable around the default 1300 mark), but because of how the system is set up - my rating was calculated with their very low ratings.

Anyway, I was taking a vote:

Do you think ratings should be calculated with the rating that the game started with.

Or do you think it should stay how it is now, calculated with the rating that is there when the game ended.

So far I believe I read 3 people who liked the idea of it being calculated with the starting rating value.

22. 十月 2004, 03:01:13
rod03801 

22. 十月 2004, 02:55:34
Czuch 
Thanks. That makes sense...
I thought it was 20 games for an established rating?

22. 十月 2004, 02:47:56
Jason 
they are counted as played games on your total of games ,but not counted to get to the 25 for established rating .

22. 十月 2004, 02:45:10
Czuch 
Do unrated games count towards your game total when getting an established bkr?

22. 十月 2004, 00:28:24
Stevie 
nope. which is why i suggested it on feature requests board and seemed like ignored

22. 十月 2004, 00:27:06
Fiona 
题目: Re: Im getting really hacked off
is there any way you can tell on someones profile if they have auto-vacation enabled?

22. 十月 2004, 00:21:02
Stevie 
题目: Im getting really hacked off
with this new silly auto vcacation feature elongating games due to the inconsiderate gits who are abusing the sodding thing

for god sake, move for so we can actually enjoy the fricking games

21. 十月 2004, 23:54:20
Stevie 
what pants? ;oÞ

BTW Bwild, looks like you not gonna get your answer from LJ tonight LOL

21. 十月 2004, 23:50:59
Tulip 
heheeee!!..neat!

21. 十月 2004, 23:49:22
Stevie 
题目: or
how many lips are best?


1.fourlips
2.threelips
3.Tulips

L
MAO

21. 十月 2004, 23:49:08
Stardust 
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