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I think the Generic Game Server supports real-time games of Amazons.

Sometimes I'm in the mood to play and finish an entire Amazons game in a single online session.

Does anyone know a real-time Amazons game server, which supports time limits like 30 seconds/move, 12 moves in 8 minutes or 20 minutes/game?

Ill let you off then Jason LOL

lol , possibly , i didnt read back enough ;)

would that be similar to the one sugested earlier with the centre 4 squares as water?

how about a type of blackhole amazons , simmilar to blackhole reversi , im not sure if it would limit the game too much but would stop people from having a good starting point ...what are other opinions ??.

A mistake could drastically reduce ones territory even when the game is "decided". Of course such mistakes don't happen if the players know what they are doing and are giving a bit of attention to the game. But that's not always the case.

However, i also think that it is very annoing to play out the end when the territories are enclosed. I will resign when i see i have lost and wish my opponent would do the same. But if they choose to fill the board then so be it.

And of course a game of chess can be won without the queen. With experienced players playing that is very unlikely and at top level it's next to impossible. But at general BrainKing level it happens all the time.

.... and back to talk about Amazons please.

It is not impossible to win without a queen. I (a very poor chess player) have won at least a few games having lost my queen rather early. Against an experienced opponent, however, that is different.

Good reference BuilderQ. I am by no means in the upper echelons of chess as
QuoUsque seems to be but I have witnessed a fair number of Chess games where after the Queen was taken the 'Queenless' player went on to win. I will duck now and try to avoid your arrows ;)

I guess by real you mean the world championship?

By the way, in maharajah chess, white starts with much more than a queen deficeit.

Last time I checked, every chess player was not in the master class. Queen odds have been given in real games.

I agree. Why force some one to quit when they think they can still win? Or maybe your opponent is doing what the game is ment for, having fun. I think most of us forget to actually sit and enjoy the game and rather focus more on winning. Maybe your opponent enjoys actually finishing a game rather then trying to get wins.

Edit:I'm a bit slow with my responce eh?

*No chess player on this planet* I don't think you've played enough people. Anyways, in most game types experts can see the outcome a long way off.

I also feel it is better to play a game to the end. If the "winning" player is bored? with the game then they can choose to resign themselves. But,to ask an opponent to resign seems presumptuous. The tables can turn if a mistake is made by the one who thinks they inevitably will win. There is a chess player who requests that his opponent resign whenever he captures their Queen first ! That seems to be 'jumping the gun' a bit and being rather short-sighted. If someone is ahead in Amazons or any other game and is bored with playing they always have the option to resign. But to ask another to resign seems to be poor etiquette.

to be honest I feel it is better to play the game out and looserather than just give up. I feel giving up is wose than loosing cause if you loose then at least you tried. though if it is painfully obvious that one person has...lets say 6 moves left and the other has 25 then I under stand where you are coming from. but if it is 23 and 25 one person may make a major mistake (which can happen) then I think it should be played out.

not sure if that made any sence but thats how I see it.

You also have to remember that Amazons is still a new game for many, so some may not see that they are in a losing situation, plus others might also like to play the game out to help them actually see the end of the game.

Just because another player does not see the futility of a give position, that does not make it OK to ask them to give up. Some other games are actually enjoyable to get the final "kill", (even though Amazons isn't) so why not just offer a "GG" comment when the outcome is determined - maybe the other player will get the hint. Maybe their skills are so low, that they need to see the bitter end before they understand. Maybe they are just being difficult & it is the only satisfaction that they will get out of the game. Whatever the circumstances, it just seems rude to tell someone to give up (even a lost position)

Yes, it is that I make also. Regrettably, some players do not accept it and we oblige to fill automatically the squares. When one knows the final result and when the reflection does not exist any more, it is not very pleasant.
For my part, I do not agree to replay with opponents who have a practice so.

In Amazons, I resign or ask my opponent to resign, when territory borders are closed and thus the game result is settled.

I usually attach a message like "Black has remaing moves, White <w> remaing moves. Thus I (ask you to) resign ..."

My experience is, that almost anyone accepts a reasonable request to resign.