Michele Bachmann....

"''It is horrific to know that in the African American community, 50 percent of all African American pregnancies in the United States end in abortion, 50 percent. That is a genocide of African Americans of the United States. It should not be. There are Americans all across this country who would love to adopt African American babies, but they can't because 50 percent of all African American pregnancies today are ending in abortion.'"

''Normalization (of gayness) through desensitization. Very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders, is take a picture of 'The Lion King' for instance, and a teacher might say, 'Do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?' The message is: I'm better at what I do, because I'm gay.''

''I don't know where they're going to get all this money because we're running out of rich people in this country.''

''I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out under another, then under another Democrat president, Jimmy Carter. I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence.''


“The President of the United States will be taking a trip over to India that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day.”

GT:

> Jimmy took office in 1977.us troops left in 72, all over by 75

Thanks for the correction. Technically speaking, the Paris Peace Accords were signed by Richard Nixon's administration in 1972. However, hostilities from both sides continued until 1975 since the US continued to secretly bomb Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, and the Vietcong continued to push south. I suppose Jimmy Carter inherited the immediate aftermath of the war and he had to deal with issues such as the release of POWs, the search for MIA servicemen, and trying to mend fences with Vietnam. Jimmy Carter was not bad at that. It is where his reputation as a peace maker comes from. Well, the whole Iran mess hurt him badly, plus rising interest rates and a slow down in the economy as the Federal Reserve raised interest rates. All that reached its peak during the Reagan administration. In retrospect, Reagan free market thinking came at the wrong time. It is why during his 8 years in office the US slid into recession.

Tuesday:

> I believe the hostage releases were planned for a certain time to make Carter look bad. That was my impression at the time.

It has been charged many times that Ronald Reagan was dealing with Iran behind the scenes prior to the election so as to delay the release of the hoistages and make sure that Jimmy Carter would lose. The hostages were released 20 minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn into office. During the election Ronald Reagan said that the USA should not pay ransom for people that had been kidnapped by "barbarians". However, one of his first acts in office was to unfreeze 7 billion dollars that had been frozen in American banks. All in all, there is no proof of any conspiracy, but the claim has been there for a long time.

Tuesday: I agree, he is a good man,sometimes the current events of the world at the time may be just the way it is, no matter who is running the show,Monday morning quarterbacks can say their guy or gal would be better, but who knows

Übergeek 바둑이: Jimmy took office in 1977.us troops left in 72, all over by 75

Artful Dodger: I think you'll find they've been mocking the USA since the end of Persia and the beginning of Iran. I think they would have been especially mocking the USA over the supply of chemical weapons material to Saddam... that he used in the Iran/Iraq war.

rod03801:

> And? So? Doesn't change the fact that he is inept and just making a mess of things.

Show me a president that hasn't made a mess of things.

Richard Nixon: "I am not a crook!" Need I say more!

Jimmy Carter: Hostages in Iran. To his credit, he did put an end to the Vietnam war.

Ronald Regan: "Reaganomics" plunges the US into the worst recession since the Great Depression. He was the president who first made the deficit explode to stratospheric proportions. "In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $997 billion to $2.85 trillion, and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation."

George H.W. Bush: His continued pursuit of "Reagonomics". His handling of the economy was so bad that he was not reelected in 1992 in spite of having won the Gulf War.

Bill Clinton: Somalia. Monica Lewinski. To his credit, he oversaw the largest economic and technological expansion of the 20th century, and finished his presidency with a surplus.

George W. Bush: Manufactured intelligence. A war without UN backing. Ruined many long-term alliances in Europe and messed up foreign policy for decades to come. Guantanamo. Abu Graib. Waterboarding. Sending 400,000 Iraqis to their deaths. The biggest stock market crash in history. Manufacturing the bank meltdown and subsequent bailout. He squandered the surplus that he inherited from Clinton and turned it into the worst fiscal and trade deficits in American history.

Barrack Obama: Healthcare (only if you are a Republican!) Iraq and Guantanamo are not done yet.

Tuesday: I just did.

Tuesday: secretly? he does think he is the anointed one. I've said it ALL along and will continue to. WORST president in history. Even worse than Carter.

Tuesday: If he is doing good for the economy as best he can.. then we all should prosper right?.. on another note.. In the state of PA.. the new Gov. agrees with the old Gov( Rendell) that oil companies drilling for shale oil shouldn't get taxed??? huh? sure make a profit ..take natural resources.. but don't get taxed?

Artful Dodger: Let's hope so. We are doomed, if not.

look I want HIM to do good.. but do it already.. no excuses

opposing drilling for oil and forcing a health care package on the country when there is a recession or borderline depression on hand .....I don't think...I mean my economic skills ain't be as good as his or Rahm's.. it dont be seeming such a good idea

anyways...I thought it was the economy ...stupid..(not meaning anyone here)..Obama has really disappointed me with that... I know.. its a global world, but you can't blame bush anymore.. if so then why run for pres. in the first place? and please DONT SAY HE DIDN'T KNOW how bad it was, AND WASN'T INFORMED.. HE WAS A FREAKING SENATOR,and his party was the majority in the senate also.

Tuesday: Oh come on. According to Super Obama, it would be completely closed by now. Of course he is flip flopping. He is incompetent, face it.

Tuesday: His flip flopping on the subject (obama) just shows how he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

rod03801: ... And what about those killed by those who use the abuse and other crap that has happened there as part of their recruitment drive for more to join the terrorist cause?

(V): Sorry, I honestly don't have much sympathy (if any) for the people that are there.

rod03801: A mess?? G bay was Bush's mess. Bush made it, Obama tried to clean it up. He can't due to the problem being bigger than I gather he would of known of until he was President.

... I don't think those running for President get told much details of TOP SECRET files before they get into power.

.. Do they?

But don't get me wrong. Bush was a bumbling fool too.

(V): And? So? Doesn't change the fact that he is inept and just making a mess of things.

rod03801: They voted for him as people had gotten tired of the somewhat 'experienced' George Bush.

... I think McCain being so old and Palin being so .. ... .. utterly unsuitable didn't do the Republican camp any good.

Artful Dodger: Exactly. "Unrealistic" is an understatement. He is a complete amateur. I can't believe so many people voted for someone so Unqualified. It seems as though he is just stumbling through everything.

I think there are probably some reasons why Guantanamo is not closed yet:

1. Several countries don't want to repatriate the prisoners sitting there. Many of those prisoners have nowhere to go. Nobody wants them in their country.

2. Fear of reincidence is a factor too. There is guarantee that if any of these men end up free again they won't go back to doing what they did before being captured. Now they have even more reason to hate the USA,s ince many of them were imprisoned for years without formal trials or charges.

3. Prisoners disclosing what happened in Guantanamo is a factor too. What we know of interrogations there is only the tip of the iceberg. It is possible that these men are theatening to publicize what happened to them in Guantanamo. They might not be willing to buy their freedom with silence.

I think Obama was unrealistic in thinking he could close Guantanamo without giving thought to what they would do with those prisoners or how they would be legally processed. Am I disappointed with Obama? No, because I knew from the beginning that the US can NEVER close Guantanamo. The only way Guantanmo will close is if the lease runs out and the Cubans ask for their land back. Then the Gulag will have to move elsewhere.

The bay.. such a nightmare mess that even good intent can't clean it up. Maybe it'll be renamed "The Bush" in honour of the President who used a sledge hammer to open an egg.

Artful Dodger: Agreed. As regards Guantánamo, Obama is a total disappointment.

Artful Dodger: I hope someone decent runs. It's SO important to get rid of the anointed one.