(V):" so everyone concerned feels nothing.."
*Um, what do you mean by this?

" especially considering the development of the nervous system,"
*Do you mean in the unborn child? Explain

" all the indications are that those that who are actually living as independent beings will feel more."
*explain

(V): there are sad stories in every aspect of life. But the vast majority of abortion are only horror stories to the unborn.

Iamon lyme: Obama supports letting babies who survive an abortion - die without any attempt at medical care.

Iamon lyme: I've seen that one before. It so cracks me up (no pun intended)

(V): You'd have to explain to me how a woman's life could be ruined by giving birth. And then you'd have to clarify how that "ruined" life (of the mother). How does killing the unborn child do any "good" to the situation.

And what if the scans showed a perfectly healthy baby girl?

Well the sad alternative is that the unborn baby must die. The seems unjust to me. We have a responsibility to the most vulnerable among us.

(V): Well you know I like Bill. I've seen that clip many times and it doesn't shock or even surprise me he acted this way. Live shows are a tense business and taping a show with retakes etc cnd wear as well. But this clip, with the added back and forth dialogue is hysterical. I think even Bill himself would love this one.

(V): Of course she's a human being. That's what makes scenarios like this one so difficult. But so are situations difficult that involve separating parents from children, which happens in societies. Even children in difficult home situations have a strong bond toward the parents. The larger question has to do with what is right vrs what is clearly wrong. It's clearly wrong to kill an innocent human being. The most vulnerable deserve our protection. That fact is weighed against a woman carrying to term a child she does not want. The greater good is served by allowing the innocent unborn child to live to birth and beyond. There are thousands of loving homes waiting for a child should the woman not want to raise the child herself. We can't escape the fact that we have obligations and responsibilities to each other that sometimes require sacrifice of self interests (parents do this all the time!) for the good of the other.

Iamon lyme: Yes I've seen that in action in the current administration.

Iamon lyme: If Obama loses, America wins. If Obama wins, conservatives just wait it out and in a few years, when America has been ruined, we can say, "We told you so."

But the ONE can't lose in their eyes I think. They are blinded by MR COOL. Even as he turns the country into a cow turd.

Cow Turd is a political term I think.

And on a lighter note and for a HUGE laugh, there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_GV6wMgBk&feature=fvsr

There is foul language toward the end. So listener beware.

He's going to lose the election BIG.

Obama is done. He will lose big in Monday night's debate.

Obamanesia – Obama Live Birth Abortion Induced Labor Abortions 2008
by Dgraphics2009

It is well known by Pro-Lifers but not by the general public. The MSM has done everything to keep it that way. We must help get the fact out that Barack Obama strenuously defended the indefensible at least three times.

The procedure is frequently called “Live birth abortion” but it is not really an abortion at all: The goal is simply to prematurely deliver a baby who dies during the birth process or soon afterward.”

http://newsninja2012.com/obamanesia-obama-live-birth-abortion-induced-labor-abortions-2008/

(V): And the consequence of abortion is a human being, innocent of any wrong doing, is killed.

Iamon lyme: True.

If the pro life position were to change and allowed for rape and incest (some do) the pro abortion lobby would still find excuses to kill the unborn.

(V): much more than the unborn will get

(V): Well she can't exactly turn around and kill the real badguy: the rapist. That would be a crime. But the innocent unborn child can be killed. We just think there's something wrong with that picture.

Iamon lyme: It's such a cheap shot comment. No one, including myself wants a 12 year old girl to be forced to have a baby of their rapist. That's not the pro-life position. The Pro Life position is all about the unborn and protecting their right to life. That is a noble position.

The Col: Not funny.

Thank God for guns

Looks like Romney is ahead in the polls. But what matters is the swing States.

Iamon lyme:

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Iamon lyme: Romney should ask him how much he gave in charity. Romney gave millions. When Romney inherited his father's estate, he gave away all the money. And when governor, he gave his salary back to the State. Same when he ran the Olympics. He's extremely generous.

Iamon lyme: tomorrow the pundits all jockey for position on the many polls. I think this debate may be a draw but fact checking could decide it too

Iamon lyme: Obama looked better this time and I'll bet many pundunts call it a draw. But a draw is better for Obama. I am busy trying to fix my taxes which were due yesterday (extension) but I screwed up. lol So only watched a small segment.

(V): well Bush is no longer president so perhaps we ought to focus on the one who is!

Iamon lyme: this was a well coordinated attack and planned for a long time. Obama is over his head.

Iamon lyme: I think Hillary will stay on but there will be bad blood between Obama and the Clintons (more than there already was).

Iamon lyme: I think someone got the boot. Something about TOS violations.

mckinley: The beautiful fall colors are due to global warming.

Iamon lyme: cartoon characters are much smarter than your average liberal

A (former) friend of my is once again going on and on about global warming and the exponential rise in climate change. "Warning Will Robinson!!!" Pure junk. He states that no one should vote for anyone who isn't committed to taking care of our planet. "Taking care of our planet" is of course defined by him and others of his ilk. My response to his nonsense is spot on, as usual.

I've always believed that "global warming" and the ubiquitous warnings surrounding its dangers, are mostly hype and at least in part based on junk science. Climate change is not occurring exponentially no matter how many "scientific" reports you cite. The fact is, there hasn't been a warming trend for 16 years. The climate change bubble burst a while ago but there are a few diehards holding on. That is not to say we shouldn't take care of our planet. We should. But I'd rather read that NO ONE has ANY business voting for ANYONE who is not committed to saving the lives of the unborn. This to me is a real issue and so called global warming is not.

Bwild: I bought my first chain saw last year. My friends wouldn't let me use it until they trained me on how to use it. They were afraid for my limbs! lol. It's fun to use except for the blood splatter.

Iamon lyme: well they are blaming her department now. It's always the fault of someone else.

Iamon lyme: the administration lied and now obummer is trying to blame Hillary.

Iamon lyme: they cheerleaders are transvestites

Politics
Fox News beats network, cable competitors in vice-presidential debate ratings

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mckinley: Killing of unborn babies is against Obama and Biden's PERSONAL beliefs but they are ok if OTHERS do the killing?

Yeah, I'm personally opposed to the lynching of blacks but.....

Yeah, I'm personally opposed to the killing of Jews but......

mckinley: Nonsense. Give a concrete example. Biden is a buffoon.

mckinley: The conservatives ARE doing something about it. But the liberals LOVE to keep the culture of death active. They are willing to allow the unborn to be killed just for votes.