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24. Septembrie 2005, 00:37:54
inpassant 
Is pente solved? I didn´t know that...

23. Septembrie 2005, 18:18:18
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: solving problems
Modificat de Nasmichael (24. Septembrie 2005, 06:53:17)
Geometry is a subject studied often, with the goal of understanding; although the "proofs" stand--the idea is to spread the knowledge amongst masses of people. The essence of the process hold innovative ideas, even if they are old, and a few know the solution.

Our games have such depth we play, and most don't know the "solution", or they would fall into disuse. Our games are not yet "past their time", because those few who do "know the solution" haven't transmitted it to the rest of us by osmosis.

So there is plenty left to see in these games. And even when they are solved, there will be plenty to see....

23. Septembrie 2005, 15:09:57
redsales 
pente and 5 in line have been solved, but i still play em!

23. Septembrie 2005, 12:32:02
AbigailII 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
Fencer: Yes, you're right. It's Connect4 (7x8) that is solved.

But still, "having been solved" doesn't mean the game can't be enjoyable. Or not be a challenge. Certain chess end-games are solved as well - but will still be huge challenge for a human to play. And there are still people out there that enjoy playing tic-tac-toe.

23. Septembrie 2005, 12:28:58
AbigailII 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
fungame: It's solved in the sense that there's a lookup table for each position and die role to see what the best move is. In fact, for any position one can calculate the winning chance.

23. Septembrie 2005, 12:17:31
Harassed 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
Fencer: I thought classic line4 was 7x6.

23. Septembrie 2005, 12:16:07
Harassed 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
AbigailII: There cannot be solution for dice-dependent games, solution in meaning one side always wins or draws in all variants. Of course in gammons best probability for each move can be counted, but probability and reality are quite different.

23. Septembrie 2005, 07:16:42
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
AbigailII: I think only the classic 8x7 Line4 is solved, 8x8 is not.

23. Septembrie 2005, 05:48:00
redsales 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
AbigailII: line4? really? do you have a link for the proof?

23. Septembrie 2005, 02:33:48
AbigailII 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
fungame: Hyper bg solved? That must be a joke.

http://www.bkgm.com/variants/HyperBackgammon.html claims it is. Considering the relatively low number of positions, this isn't at all surprising.

23. Septembrie 2005, 02:28:08
Harassed 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
AbigailII: Line4 solved? I thougt 8x8 wasn't solved yet. Hyper bg solved? That must be a joke.

22. Septembrie 2005, 08:46:24
AbigailII 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
Fencer: I've no idea whether it's solved. But is that a problem? Line4 and Hyper Backgammon are solved as well, but people still play it. And in PakTum, with perfect play, black cannot win. But people still play it.

22. Septembrie 2005, 07:57:58
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Los Alamos Chess
AbigailII: Isn't this game already solved?
On the other hand, it still seems to be better balanced than Horde or Maharajah Chess.

21. Septembrie 2005, 23:12:42
AbigailII 
Subiectul: Los Alamos Chess
Hyper backgammon, as regular backgammons smaller brother, is a huge success. Perhaps Los Alamos Chess can be successful too. It's played on a 6x6 board. There are no bishops, there's no en passant taking, no initial 2 step move for pawns, and no castling. It was the first chess game that computer played - way back in the 50s. Next year, it's 50 years ago that computers first tried playing chess - and it was Los Alamos Chess they first tried.

19. Septembrie 2005, 21:27:50
CryingLoser 
Subiectul: Lost Pawns
"Lost Pawns Chess" looks interesting.
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/chessvariants/message/1668

And doesn't seem to be patented...

19. Septembrie 2005, 17:10:45
Caissus 
Subiectul: Re: "Falcon chess"
Fencer: O yes I see....What a pity!

19. Septembrie 2005, 17:05:48
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: "Falcon chess"

19. Septembrie 2005, 17:00:10
Caissus 
Subiectul: "Falcon chess"
is an interesting chessvariant played on a 10x8 board: http://www.chessvariants.org/large.dir/falcon.html

Perhaps we can have it as third 10x8 variant anytime?

26. August 2005, 16:17:09
nabla 
Subiectul: chessvariants.com
Probably I am not the first one to see it, but chessvariants.com is back online - seems just a little slower than it used to be.

13. August 2005, 10:48:11
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
Here is a Xiang Qi (Chinese chess) tournament with a prize of a one-year Brain Rook membership. Everyone is welcome to participate.

http://brainking.com/es/Tournaments?trg=10680&trnst=0&tp=68

13. August 2005, 08:32:01
redsales 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I hope not
Fencer: maybe a strategic alliance is in order?

12. August 2005, 23:23:59
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I hope not
Nasmichael: Too much resources for the comments script? It cannot consume more resources than BK's discussion board system :-)

12. August 2005, 23:21:01
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I hope not
BIG BAD WOLF: From chessfriend Hans--

(an email to me today)--

"Dear Michael,

Thanks for the mail. Yes, there is a problem - the hosting firm thought we
use too much resources with the script that gets the comments at the bottoms
of the webpages. I've forwarded your email to David Howe (and cc him with this
email), who is currently one of the chief editors of the website.

Best regards,
Hans"

12. August 2005, 22:03:18
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Tournament--For the Love of the Game (Shogi)
I offer a Shogi tournament for those who love "drop chess" games, this is the Father of them all.

Come and play.

Paul, this one's for you!

11. August 2005, 15:19:55
nabla 
I also think so. It would be too much an invaluable loss if this site didn't reappear in one way or another.

11. August 2005, 15:11:55
Chessmaster1000 
People that wrote this huge site with all their great efforts, it is sure they will come back........!

11. August 2005, 04:36:19
redsales 
that's a shame, that site was so popular, but I do get the same message.

11. August 2005, 01:46:06
coan.net 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: I would guess the site went over it's limit for something where it is hosted.

I know where I'm hosted at will suspend my site if I go over bandwidth or possible a DOS attack against the domain name, etc.

If it was "closed" or "expired", I'm sure the hosting company (ipowerweb) would not replace it with a note saying to contact them.

10. August 2005, 21:31:22
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: Yes, I misspelled his name, --Bodlaender-- and I just emailed him.

Just waiting for response.

10. August 2005, 21:16:05
nabla 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: Yes, 99.99% chances he is the founder of chessvariants.org . I remember that he was from Utrecht.

10. August 2005, 20:59:57
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Nasmichael: I guess we are talking about this guy, right?

10. August 2005, 20:55:26
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
nabla: Thanks, I'll give it a try.

10. August 2005, 20:49:23
nabla 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: Oh I've got another one : chessvar@yahoo.com with the owner described as "The Chess Variants Pages"

10. August 2005, 20:48:02
nabla 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: Somewhere in my mailbox I have got the editors@chessvariants.org address, but I guess it would not work either :-(

10. August 2005, 20:29:49
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: I will be sure to do that.

10. August 2005, 20:28:17
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Nasmichael: Please let me know if you get some info from Hans Boedlander.

10. August 2005, 20:26:45
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: Yeah, I got the same thing. Unsure of what is going on....

I hope it is very temporary.

10. August 2005, 20:06:19
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Nasmichael: Still the same error message.

10. August 2005, 20:02:48
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?--I don't think so
Fencer: the address should read:

www.chessvariants.org and currently I am playing several games there at their Game Courier. I logged on yesterday, 00:15 hrs GMT, but I have not logged on today.

I will try again, but try my link and see if it works for you.

I hope it is there.

I have Hans Boedlander's address in my files--give me some time to send him a note, and maybe we can find out more about it.

10. August 2005, 19:37:36
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?
Spirou: That's a pity. Does anybody have a contact of chessvariants.org owners? They could move the site to our servers.

10. August 2005, 19:34:29
Spirou 
Subiectul: Re: Chessvariants.org suspended?
Fencer: Me too. Probably the server is done.

10. August 2005, 19:30:51
Fencer 
Subiectul: Chessvariants.org suspended?
When I try to open http://chessvariants.org it is redirected to a different page with this text:
----------
account suspended

Your account has been suspended. We have sent you an email explaining why. This email should also contain information on how you can unsuspend your account.
----------

Does anybody know what's going on there?

13. Iunie 2005, 10:43:20
nabla 
Subiectul: Re: Hostage Chess
Fencer: Oh, and by the way, I recently played some Recycle Chess games with the author in the Berlin Bug Gathering, and since he wrote the rules I linked, he has switched back to allowing promotions, which is more lively.

13. Iunie 2005, 10:41:05
nabla 
Subiectul: Re: Hostage Chess
Fencer: Hostage *and* Recycle, that is just great news. You rule !

5. Iunie 2005, 18:16:35
Fencer 
Subiectul: Neutral King Chess
Does anybody know this variant? Is it playable and well balanced?

2. Iunie 2005, 12:47:20
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Hostage Chess
nabla: I consider both variations.

2. Iunie 2005, 11:59:12
nabla 
Subiectul: Hostage Chess
By the way, I fully support / am looking forward to the implementation of Hostage Chess, which is an excellent game.
Sorry to be on the "user always want more" side, but Recycle Chess (http://www.chessvariants.org/difftaking.dir/recy
clechess.html) is a close and simpler relative that definitely deserves the same consideration !

2. Iunie 2005, 11:54:10
nabla 
Subiectul: Re: Hostage Chess
Fencer: I read Hostage Chess games commented by the author and yes, this seems to be the correct interepretation.
But there is one more point in this rule (probably it was stated later and you know it) : if no piece is in the opponent's prison, then the pawn cannot move onto the last rank. It means that in this case, a pawn on the seventh rank is not even checking a king on the last rank.

29. Mai 2005, 22:12:56
Nasmichael 
Subiectul: Re: Hostage Chess
Fencer: No problem. Abigail gave you the correct answer, I just offered something more for you or for those who may want an example. Thank you for asking about the game.

29. Mai 2005, 22:00:38
Fencer 
Subiectul: Re: Hostage Chess
Nasmichael: Thanks but this strategy is too complicated for me. I was only asking for a clarificarion of pawn promotes in this variant, with a simple example. I don't have time to study anything longer.

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