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17. Februarie 2005, 17:21:18
redsales 
i think the universe would implode, just as my brain is from contemplating that. It's the same feeling I got as at work today when I asked someone, in English (a big mistake in Korea), what the date was today. The reply: yesterday. *poof*

17. Februarie 2005, 17:29:38
Blackadder Mr K 
Subiectul: Re:
grenv:
It could be fun if you had to ( by the third dice )Talk about anti-backgammon !

18. Februarie 2005, 04:15:45
Beck 
Subiectul: r u ready
r u ready to start ok rite bk

18. Februarie 2005, 04:31:51
Beck 
Subiectul: hi
lets go i mit come down your a poooooooooooo

3. Martie 2005, 17:11:10
Blackadder Mr K 
Subiectul: Sour souls,,,,
Do anyone know how to mend sour souls ?
I have lost two backgammon games just because the
d--- dices was to low !
What do you do when things arn`t going your way ?
Please help me !

3. Martie 2005, 17:13:24
harley 
Subiectul: Re: Sour souls,,,,
Blackadder Mr K: play more games until Lady Dice turns in your favour!!

3. Martie 2005, 17:16:19
Blackadder Mr K 
Subiectul: Re: Sour souls,,,,
harley:
She never das!!

3. Martie 2005, 20:44:42
pgt 
Subiectul: Re: Sour souls,,,,
Blackadder Mr K: She does! Just take a look at my BG graph

4. Martie 2005, 16:05:57
Blackadder Mr K 
Subiectul: Re: Sour souls,,,,
pgt:
Ok !
I take my trust in you !

9. Martie 2005, 12:03:45
Beraun 
Subiectul: Hyper
Can a player winning 160 of 167 of Hyper Backgammon? Hammer1 can ?¿¿

9. Martie 2005, 13:12:15
Hrqls 
Subiectul: Re: Hammer1
Beraun: hmm weird indeed ... and he played against a lot of the same people directly after another .. and the people he played against all played against the same people as well most of the time ..

9. Martie 2005, 15:59:57
coan.net 
Subiectul: Re: Hyper
Beraun: I agree with Hrqls - and when you see someone resign instead of win, and when you see moves that will not hurt the other player - I would suspect that the 160 out of 167 wins is a little tainted.

9. Martie 2005, 17:11:09
furbster 
yes i agree with both, and would say the ratings is a little false.

9. Martie 2005, 17:31:35
ILOVENIRVANA 
Subiectul: ratings
I always wondered something about the ratings on here. Say someone timed out and lost the game instead of playing the game out. Is there any way the points would be different by time out over playing the game out and losing that way? How about in the winning player situation can they get more points for getting the win by time out over by actually beating the opponent?

9. Martie 2005, 17:33:22
redsales 
if they time out within 2 moves, it's not counted for BKR, but otherwise a win or a timeout have the same effect on the ratings.

9. Martie 2005, 17:46:49
Czuch 
TAINTED?
A LITTLE FALSE????

You guys are generous..... That person should be removed from this site and anyone who helped them cheat their ratings as well!!!!!

9. Martie 2005, 20:54:46
Hrqls 
lol .. shhh chuck ... dont yell too loud .. fencer might hear you ;)

nice digging bbw :)

9. Martie 2005, 23:39:18
Vikings 
Modificat de Vikings (10. Martie 2005, 01:55:01)
well I see that he has at least two legit games

10. Martie 2005, 01:41:54
rod03801 
It may not even be other people helping him/her, it could be their own multi-nics...
I agree, this person should definitely be removed!

13. Martie 2005, 17:14:29
wayney 
Subiectul: hi all
I just joined this site to play some backgammon. I was referred here from another games site and I will be putting some games in the waiting room so if you care for a game, please join up thanks.

13. Martie 2005, 17:21:31
Chimera 
Subiectul: Re: hi all
wayney: hi and welcome to Brainking. It's the best site around. Best of luck with all your games :)

13. Martie 2005, 17:22:38
wayney 
thanks

14. Martie 2005, 03:54:20
wayney 
Subiectul: Interesting Resignation
In looking at some of the top ranked players , I noticed claifornia girl had only played 4 games.
Having such a high rating isn't so abnormal, yet it makes one stop and think something fishy is going on when they receive a resignation such as this.
http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=184310

14. Martie 2005, 04:03:42
Vikings 
Subiectul: Re: Interesting Resignation
wayney: who cares, she hasn't played here in 18 months and only has a provisional rating, its meaningless

14. Martie 2005, 04:30:03
wayney 
Subiectul: Re: Interesting Resignation
Vikings: I didn't say I cared. I just thought it was interesting.

14. Martie 2005, 12:32:59
Blackadder Mr K 
Subiectul: S--t happends,,,
wayney:
It does happend that people stop playing at a site and it happends to that people can keep they high rankings a long time ( I wonder why I can`t )and there isn`t anything wrong with that,but I do think that somebody should take a look at this problem before it gets to hard to stop.
Has anyone told Fencer about this ?

14. Martie 2005, 16:11:18
ClayNashvilleTN 
I just let a game time out on me! My opponent Pbarb is willing to have it reinstaed! What do I do next? I do not see a game number! Shen mentioned referring the game # to Fencer?

14. Martie 2005, 17:04:58
Blackadder Mr K 
Subiectul: Re:
Zorro:
The first line under the players namn says Game ID.
Mail that number to Fencer and explain the case.

14. Martie 2005, 17:15:42
ClayNashvilleTN 
Subiectul: Re: Re:
Blackadder Mr K: Thanks!!!!!!!!!

16. Martie 2005, 15:34:39
Bry 
Subiectul: Hyper Gammon
What's the longest recorded game of Hyper BG there has been so far?

16. Martie 2005, 15:42:36
grenv 
A quick search turned up:
http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=611535 (37 moves)

My quickest: Here's me winning and losing on the 6th move:
http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=670775
http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=611650

16. Martie 2005, 16:15:35
Chessmaster1000 
"A quick search"????? Is there any search option for such a thing...........?

16. Martie 2005, 16:21:27
grenv 
I just looked at a couple of players who have played hundreds of games and clicked on Hypergammon in their profile. The game list includes the number of moves.

I know it's tempting to think that a technical solution is the only way, but sometimes good old brainpower and elbow grease does the trick.


16. Martie 2005, 16:23:06
grenv 
Of course my finding is not absolute, I was hoping others would post games that are both longer and shorter.
In theory a game could be 3 moves. That would be frustrating for the loser, but it should happen here soon given the number of games being played.

16. Martie 2005, 17:06:34
Chimera 
Subiectul: Re: Hyper Gammon

16. Martie 2005, 23:03:18
pgt 
Subiectul: Here is a 36 move game

17. Martie 2005, 00:38:51
BuilderQ 
Subiectul: quick search
I remember searching through many profiles some months age trying to find the longest game of Gothic Chess. It would be nice for information like that (maybe average game length as well? :-)) to be stated in the Statistics section or under each game's rules section.

17. Martie 2005, 00:45:56
grenv 
Subiectul: Re: Here is a 36 move game
pgt: But the one I found is 37 moves. Where you playing for second place again?

17. Martie 2005, 01:01:35
BuilderQ 
37 moves: http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=675119
Look at yours again grenv: only 36.

17. Martie 2005, 04:59:52
frolind 
Subiectul: Re: Hyper Gammon
Are we counting the number of moves until the game is 100% decided, or are we counting the extra moves after that as well? Not that I have any candidates either way.

17. Martie 2005, 11:50:24
Hrqls 
the one that pgt posted has 35 moves but shows as 36 as well ? what is this extra move ? (the first roll of the dice ?)

17. Martie 2005, 15:46:38
BuilderQ 
Well, I've noticed that the "number of moves" shown for each game listed on a player's profile is one ply longer than the actual game. For example, here we see that the two reversi games between Hrqls and Nomad were 20 and 18 moves, while they really were 19 and 18. Whenever black is the last to move, a profile shows the game at an incorrect length. I think it's been this way since BrainKing 2.0.

17. Martie 2005, 21:34:55
Hrqls 
ah! so after black moves it continues to the next round and then decides if its over .. after white moves the turn goes to black .. and the server decides if it was the last move :)

22. Martie 2005, 03:46:49
Walter Montego 
Subiectul: Three blots on the bar
http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=695478
I just sent all three of vaiza's blots to the bar in one turn in Hyper Backgammon and I did it coming off the bar myself. Has anyone else ever had this happen? I also happen to have a point guarded in my home base, so it is possible that those blots could stay there for a turn or two.

23. Martie 2005, 18:39:13
ClayNashvilleTN 
If I play an opponent and his score is 1600 and mine is 2000 and he wins one and I win one of a two game match will my score be affected?

23. Martie 2005, 19:24:03
coan.net 
Chances are, yes. You (higher ranked player) will lose more points on the lost game (to a lower ranked player) then you will gain winning a game (against a lower ranked player)

23. Martie 2005, 20:23:20
grenv 
it seems like this doesn't apply to players with very established rankings. I frequently split games with players rated 100s lower with no effect.

24. Martie 2005, 01:26:56
alanback 
Subiectul: Ratings movement
Having a fairly high ranking at the moment, I find that most wins are worth either +8 or +1 to me,, with the dividing line somewhere around 400 points differential. Nothing in between. If the differential is even higher, I may get 0.
Losses are a minimum of -8, and may go as high as -25 or more. So - against the majority of opponents, I have to win 8 out of 9 just to breakeven!

24. Martie 2005, 02:13:38
pauloaguia 
Subiectul: Re:
ClayNashvilleTn: The match will be a draw then. And BKR will be calculated accordingly (BKR is only updated at the end of the match and it will be updates considering a draw). So, since a lower ranked player managed to draw against you, you'll probably loose some points while he'll gain some...

24. Martie 2005, 02:15:31
grenv 
Yes, +-8 seems to be normal for me too. I'm not completely satisfied with the rating system, but i can't put my finger on exactly what it is.

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