nice one CaoZ.. wish i could do that :)))

true ambition yeah. - ... my respect, Carlos ... :) ~*~

WTG CaoZ!!!!!! Nice one!! I also wish I could afford that membership!! Hip, hip, hooray!!!

Three Cheers to CaoZ for becoming the first Brain Maharajah. If I could I would for sure!

Dang, I've been sused!! ROFL

You're right, Cariad, I think the dice games are different this time around. But we just have to grin and get on with it! lol! Not a lot we can do about those!

Chatty, I really wouldn't worry, everyone here who knows you knows that you wouldn't deliberately cheat in a game. I've probably made moves different to the first time, and I know many of my opponents have, just because we can't remember the first set of moves! I don't think that calls for any nastiness, a simple message saying "do you remember... such and such moves were made before"... and we'd probably remember!
Allowances have to be made for people who do not take games so seriously they remember every move made! :oD
(Cariad, Aragon pretends to move in mysterious ways when he hasn't got a clue where to move!! lol)

LMAO - Oh I do!!

I thought you moved in mysterious ways Aragon!

Personally I couldn't even tell you which ones were set back for me? So likewise, if I move diferently I apologise in advance.

if i had remembered which games i had finished harley i would of resigned, i sent an apology to the person concerned and also resigned .. i have another one at least that i have to resign when they return it.. but the message i had from the opponent was downright rude in my way of thinking! and there was no need for it.. which is also why i made a public apology!

harley - that's fine for non-dice games, but in the gammon games the dice are different to the first time (I think!).

Chatty, this is something I've been a bit worried about, not making the same moves as before, and being thought of (if not outright accused) as a cheat. But everyone is in the same boat, I've resigned a few games I know I lost the first time round, and I have had people also resign games I won... but if I have forgotten a game or not made moves I should have, then I would ask my opponents to tell me rather than stew on it! Its a genuine mistake (my memory isn't great!) and given a nudge I'll make the 'right' moves!

When we fix the database server.

Because our mail server is down. Use internal messages instead.

Yesterday I wrote an E-Mail to fencer@brainking.com. It could not be delivered within 8 hours. And why does the "Contact" not work?

Hmmm, since a database crash is very rare event [it never happened before and the site has been launched almost a year ago], I would not define any policy for such situation.

Firstly, I know you don't cheat, chatty!

Secondly, where is it written that we have to make the same moves as before anyway?

yes thats true... but i wont be accused of doing something i just DONT do...

True friends don't need it,
and your enemies won't believe you anyway ... ~*~

i will make this apology now.. as i have just been accused of cheating! by making a different move in a game from when the site was down..
I want to assure everyone, that i do not cheat! if i could remember my exact moves i would do them again! the game was a tourney game, it was a FUN??? tourney! and i get accused of cheating! the players rating was over 1000 higher than mine... so the person would of obviously won whatever...

anyway, again any apologies if i do this to anyone else, it is truly not intentional!

Was buckwheat the first grouse to be shot on the 'Glorious Twelfth'?

Fencer has done an excellent job with this site. He deserves our support, not ridicule, especially from non-paying pawns. Complaining isn't going to change anything...not for the better anyway. Let's weather this storm together. Anyone up for a hurricane party?.. Ö¿~

Buckwheat you can always go somewhere else and play. There will probably be a lot more problems before they get all the bugs worked out of the system. Thats expected with a new site trying to please everyone. Give Fencer the time and support he needs to make this the best site. Or keep complaining and watch him say it isn't worth it and shut it down completely.

I suppose the rating is rather important for those
(besides Gothic Chess Pro) who want to be rich in the "Gothic Chess WC" :)

it's not that easy go ...
and your object is not my object - I have fun by winning too.
but indeed buckwheat has only provisional ratings
- with mine it would take much more effort and be
even impossible by simply 'winning one game' ...
therefore restauring of my ratings is essential for me,
after they got messed up by server malfunctions ...
else it takes months to balance - a crash every few
weeks and your advice volatilizes nicely, MidMed ... :O

but for me, zero problemo to have a few days patience until
Fencer has worked through the really urgent problems here ... ~*~

And guess what buckwheat? Not everyone is overly worried about ratings etc. The object of the game is to HAVE FUN! So if you win, you win. If you were good enough to beat the person one time and it changes because of all this, invite them to another game and beat them again. That is unless you are afraid that you can't do it again.

Thanks again Fencer and Liquid for all your work.

buckwheat.. you have an advantage over a lot of the members here in some ways when this happens.. you only have a maximum of 20 games to remember the moves on, some of us members have over a hundred or many more.. what are the chances of us remembering all the moves we made????

yippee...i can play..i won but at any time it could become a loss...or lost moves....

you complained - I wait til the massage works again ...
more convenient you know ... :D ... ~*~

Buckwheat, the ratings will still be fairly accurate, and in a bit of time they will be fully accurate again. And as Dano suggested, it would be only fair in games like chess, tank battle etc, if you made identical moves where possible. There is no need to over-react to this situation. Fencer has explained how it happened and apologised, there is nothing more he can do. And nothing more we can do but get on with it and make the best of it. I'm just glad we are back online and I am able to play again.

i don't play dark games...if you wanna complain about them you'll have to do it yourself

the ratings aren't gonna be a very accurate thing anymore now are they....how about just dropping them...

Well I'm sorry your game is messed up, but I guess you have an advantage now in other games that you didn't have before. You could always ask your oppenent to be fair and make the same moves again until you get to where you last were.. if you remember the moves that is!

to spot a player too heinous to stand by his former move
would be very convenient for me - wouldn't play him again
and spare idle effort thus ...

the problem are 'dark games' that timed out, not your easy worries.

btw IYT has had riots of chain reactions at messing up
dark games, haven't seen you there crying out loud ...

they called it 'inconvenience' btw and apologized ~*~

PS
chill - this is the day after ...
sorry the massage-saloon doesan't work yet

how about we rename it to...joke-of-a-gamesite.com...lol

i bet the guy i beat in the tank game will agree with you...and probably laughing as he makes a different move now

buckwheat, we've all had games go back a few moves. I've had to start one all over again! It wasn't an intentional thing to set all the games back and if there was any way around it then Fencer would have done it by now. This is still a new site that is growing and it will encounter problems along the way. But you won't find a better, friendlier site with owners that care as much. No matter what inconvieniences there are, its worth it just to have this site at all.

apoligize for the inconvience..??....like the other player knowing my chess moves now...or my tank game that i made the sneaky move in that's backed up to ....funny how it's right where he can make a different move now to get around what i planned...a game site that can just snuff out a days moves and call it an 'inconvience".....and the games that timed out...why can they be reinstated but the ones i won are back on my gamesheet....your whole site is an inconvience....i'm sorry i started playing here....

Please read Server News.

the idea is nice, but what happens in game like battle boats, or the dark variants, where the whole purpose is to find out what the other guy is hiding?

COOL! I'm tied (with 0) with the most moves yesterday! :-)

It appears yesterday never happened... it was all just a dream.. .lol...
I'm sure Fencer will have something to say about this when he gets a chance. I personally am not going to make any further moves until we hear from him.

For those of you who are wondering is it just me, I guess not becasue I have a number of games I have moved on that have either timed out or gone back to where they were a few days ago too.

Let's hope Fencer can fix this one up ... got to it my friend :)

I have seen several internet chess sites and i saw that they had ads for companies. Could brainking do ads to get money? (and then maybe use it to get a better server and more games?)

Wait a minute - what buckwheat said is true - many games were put back on the board that were already played - so it is possible the 8 games I timed out on had been played, but reset?

I just notice that tournament that I already started are now BACK in the tournament list waiting for players - and new tournaments that I created are gone! Seems like they had to do a restore of the database or something and a lot of "older" data got put back! Hopefully Fencer will be on soon to explain some of this!

eddit spaghetti: yea, 2 of the games were mine! (out of 8 total I timed out on by less then 1 hour)

The site seems to be running really good when you are able to get on - I had a problem getting on the site last night to play games (and with a new job that started today) - So I'll only be able to play during certain hours during the week - and if the server is down during that time... UGH! (hopefully Fencer will reinstate my games - all 8 Battleboat games which droped my rating from 1st to ... well, not 1st anymore) :-)

BBW (BIG BAD WOLF)

i thought the problems couldn't get worse but i guess i was wrong about that...sure gonna be hard to pull off the same moves in games i won with them knowing how i'm gonna move my next few pieces....any chance of finding sundays moves somewhere....eddie's games may have timed out but mine were won by playing....is this site getting worse or is it just the twilight zone i'm stuck in whenever i get here...or try to get here i should say...lol

can ya suspend timeouts again for a bit..i won about a dozen games with people i know play alot due to they timed out...it took me about 5 hrs after work mon to get on here and now it keeps jumping off on me...my games are ok for a day or 2 im not mad i know your working hard on this this is still the best site around...the problems will get better before we know it...thanxx

i seem to have lost all of Sundays moves on all my boards...even games i won are now back on my game page....is this just something that happened to me or anybody else have the same thing...???

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