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1. oktober 2006, 21:34:38
cheating up up 
Onderwerp: world chess championship crisis
people are on kramnik's side just because he won the first two games, forget the two games and you will see kramnik's behave is very strange, why he needed to go to the toilet so often, i suspect that he is taking drug before or during the game, the best way is to take an urine test of kramnik's and see what is the results come out.
both topalov and kramnik are using computer for home preparation.

2. oktober 2006, 00:57:19
gambler104 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
435152: Why would Kramnik take drugs?

3. oktober 2006, 15:22:18
cheating up up 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
gambler104:
why athlete take drugs? for the same reason Kramnik would take drug.
how many times a normal person going to the toilet?
the rule of chess should be changed, player shall not leave the table except going to toilet accompany with a referee,the game must be played out with no adjournment(before player can seal his move into an envelop after 40 moves), and one more thing should be changed, no second is allowed, this is an individual sport, a single game match, it is not a team match.

4. oktober 2006, 14:31:01
gambler104 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
435152: athletes usually take drugs to enhance physical performance. I don't see how this would help Kramnik.

5. oktober 2006, 04:23:09
mctrivia 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
gambler104: There are drugs like speed that improve mental performance. These drugs are usually even more dangerous then the ones that increase physical performance.

5. oktober 2006, 04:35:46
Walter Montego 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
mctrivia: Speed, yeah, right. :) You guys have lost it and I'm having a good laugh now just listening to the speculation. I have yet to meet a smart person that takes speed on a regular basis. And I've known a few. Perhaps in lower doses and used medicinally instead of as a drug to get high it might conceivably have such a use, but if so, why wouldn't it be a more widely known fact? The amount taken to get high is lot more than the amount needed to feel its affect of waking you up and increasing alertness. So maybe there's something to this drug angle except for one thing. Speed is a long lasting drug and you wouldn't need to make frequent trips to the restroom. One extra trip at most. No reason one couldn't just take it before leaving your hotel room and not take it again until the next day. Is coffee drinking allowed at this tournament?

Like the joke picture on the link that had all the phones, computers, and monitors, along with the padded toilet seat, if there's anything going on with the frequent trips to the restroom besides him having a urinary problem, it will be getting outside help and using machines to make the moves. You wouldn't need such an elaborate set up. A cell phone and a few even one conspirators a call away who are watching the tournament would be enough.

I have a question about the use of the restroom while the tournament game is going on. Does your clock run while you're in the restroom and it's your turn?

5. oktober 2006, 04:49:27
mctrivia 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
Walter Montego: I highly doubt he would be taking speed it is the only drug I can think of at the time. In fact I don't think he is likely taking anything the point was there are drugs that increase mental speed and acuity.

5. oktober 2006, 05:06:11
gambler104 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
mctrivia: Ok. But if I read discussion correctly, the issue was over outside help that he could have received in the bathroom (cell phone). However, it really doesn't make much sense. They have refreshments at the events and that could cause the problem.

5. oktober 2006, 05:54:29
Nightstorm 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
mctrivia: The drugs they use to treat attention deficiet disorder such as ritilan and adderall increase mental speed and concentration without the jitters you get from actual speed. They could give an edge in competition as they work to block out distractions and focus your thinking on one thing at a time.

6. oktober 2006, 01:23:14
mctrivia 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
Nightstorm: Ritilan and speed are actually the same drug. The difference is quantity and Ritilan is never laced with any kind of cycotropic to give you the holucinations.

5. oktober 2006, 13:45:04
Beren the 32nd 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
Walter Montego: You asked "Does your clock run while you're in the restroom and it's your turn?". Yes it does, from chess at the highest level, right down to local tournament level.

5. oktober 2006, 14:23:13
cheating up up 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
Beren the 32nd:

yes, one thing Topalov should do is every time when Kramnik get up from his chair going to his restroom, Topapov get ready to punch the clock.

5. oktober 2006, 14:42:34
cheating up up 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
both players are using computer to do home preparation for this match, and both are d4 players.(from first game to the latest game)
Topalov is not FISCHER who always played the first move e4 before the match against Spassky but he did not play a single e4 game during the whole match. also FISCHER is the one who forfeited the 2nd game.
one more thing, FISCHER was playing against the mighty Russan team, and he always accused the Russan was cheating.

5. oktober 2006, 15:13:40
cheating up up 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
now the world chess is became very politics,Garry Kasparov is a politician in Russian, and he is the one created the so-called classical world champion, Karspavov and Short broke away from the FIDE to play their world championship match.
now there are many grandmasters sending letters to support Kramnik and critize the FIDE and the FIDE presendent llyumzhinov, and those grandmasters are always not not llyumzhinov's supporters.

5. oktober 2006, 19:17:00
cheating up up 
Onderwerp: Re: world chess championship crisis
now the seventh game of the world chess championship is ended with a victory for Topalov with black, the score is tied at 3:3. my prediction was right that i predict Topalov will not lose this match even he was behind Kramnik by one point. please read my post on 1 October 2006,23:25:30

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