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26. september 2009, 17:50:47
Übergeek 바둑이 
I suppose it is OK for a news commentator to hide his own xenophobia behind the badge of the press. After all, saying that "Mexicans are trying to conquer American culture" is not xenophobic, it is just a man expressing some heartfelt by many Americans.

I posted some of Glen Becks comments. At times he sounds intelligent. I agree with him when he says that companies that hire illegal immigrants should be penalized. I agree that the problem is being ignored and that hte solution would be to make it easier for illegals to be legalized. Glenn Beck is very intelligent on those points.

Then he calls the president a racist knowing fully well that Barack Obama is not in a position to get into a mud fight. If Glenn Beck is not a racist, then he is a man who swings between intelligence and stupidity. He exposes himselv to being called a racist because going to a Hispanic and saying to their face "comprende?" is ignorant and insulting.

I Canada about 15% of the population was born in the US. I would ask, if a Canadian expressed himself about Americans in the way that Glen Beck expressed himself about Mexicans, how would Americans feel? In Canada that person would have been called an anti-American and he would most likely face legal repercussions.

26. september 2009, 18:31:24
Vikings 
Onderwerp: Re:
Aangepast door Vikings (26. september 2009, 18:32:19)
Übergeek 바둑이: "Mexicans are trying to conquer American culture"
That is a point of view by many Mexicans as well, they openly proclaim taking over the southwest. look up the meaning of La Raza. Flying the mexican flag over the American flag here is wrong, if you don't think so, go to Mexico and fly a Canadian flag over a Mexican flag and see what happens, there would be no need for ANY public opinion of the subject.
As far as Obama not being able to sling mud, do you really think Carter called 50% of Americans racist without Obamas knowing it? neive I say
And finaly if you are not able to express yourself then I feel sorry for you, where was the outrage when the left demonstrates and makes up claims ie. if you elect him black churches will burn?

26. september 2009, 18:44:56
Übergeek 바둑이 
Onderwerp: Re:
Aangepast door Übergeek 바둑이 (26. september 2009, 18:45:12)
Vikings:

Is it every Mexican who belongs to "La Raza" or is it a minority of them? I think Glen Beck's view of "Mexicans conquering American culture" is also a minority view. I doubt the vast majority of Americans feel that way. Among Latin Americans things such as "La Raza" are the stuff of ignorant uneducated morons. I doubt there are many Hispanics who would think that they are out to conquer the United States.

Well, Glen Beck seems to switch between very intelligent and very stupid. I think in all of his ranting there are some very valid points, and also signs of very stong opinions that can insult a lot of people. If he engages in name calling, then we should not be surprised if we can call Glen Beck names.

I think Jimmy Carter's comment on the healthcare debate was uncalled for. Saying that opposition to healthcare is coming from a racist bias against the president is inaccurate and misleading. If an individual opposes healthcare on racial bias alone, then that individual would fail to attract the vast majority of the American public. Republicans know this. They are not stupid.

I found Geln Beck's "racist" comment as bad as the time when people came out and called George W. Bush a "nazi". At the time outrage over the war was used as a shield by those who insulted the president in that way. People get away with that because they know that the president is in no position to come out and start slinging mud back at them. There was atime when I would not have questioned people insulting George W. Bush, but looking at the other side of the coin makes me realize that name calling wihtout thinking is wrong.

26. september 2009, 20:01:08
Mort 
Onderwerp: Re:look up the meaning of La Raza.
Vikings: I did, as such from the definitions I found..

What is the problem?

Yes.. Carter was wrong, just as well as right wing adverts portraying voting for the Democrats is voting for terrorists to be able to nuke the USA.

27. september 2009, 02:41:00
rod03801 
Onderwerp: Re:
Übergeek 바둑이: I only recently started listening to Glen Beck. I don't know if I have heard the same things that you have heard, but the times that I personally heard him calling Obama a racist, he was only making a point.
When I heard him doing it, it was in response to Carter's ridiculous statements. It was in response to Democrats frequently playing this sort of card, to make opponents not able to disagree without some sort of label. Unfortunately, these tactics kind of work! No one wants to be labeled a racist!

When I heard him calling Obama a racist, it was to make a point by doing the same thing that Carter did. I didn't get the impression that he really felt Obama was a racist.

You may be talking about a different incident of course.

27. september 2009, 11:30:32
Mort 
Onderwerp: Re:
rod03801: Carter was OTT, but he had a point, a degree of old thinking is still applicable just as it is here in the UK (as we see in the BNP) ... there is still a small minority in the USA that is racist and as such the old lines are still perpetuated.

The movement to total equality is still young, discrimination of various sorts still exists and will do for a time. Whether it be regarding race, sex, religion, sexuality, ideology, etc. And then there is the Politically correct crowd, some ideas of theirs going OTT...

... I read one article last night from a guy interviewing a politician that described Obama as "uppity", though the politician was too young to know consciously (or so was said) what it meant from days before, it is still in use.

As to no-one wants to be called a racist... then those who are making pics of your President looking like a monkey, or adding Obama's head to that of some African tribes man should stop.

http://www.appletreeblog.com/wp-content/2009/05/obama-monkey-1.jpg
http://binside.typepad.com/binside_tv/images/2008/05/14/obama_monkey_tshirt.jpg
http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-monkey.jpg

Or from a certain link (I cannot post it due to severe content problems)

.......................................
Jesus or Satan?
White or Black?
Good or Bad?
American or anti-American?
Peacemaker or Terrorist?
Warrior or worrier?
Soldier or Socialist?
Angel or Devil?
White House or Rule of Darkness?
McCain or Hussein?

Folks, wake up! Can’t you see what Obama’s plans for America are? As soon as he is in office we will slaughter Americans and ship our body parts to his family in Africa for voodoo magic purposes! That is how they do it! My God, don’t let him become president!!!

This is a great campaign idea to help our fellow white-folk to understand why it’s actually racist to vote for Obama. I’d like to thank some smart Republicans in Clarendon County, Virginia for helping to educate misguided white folk who might betray their race.

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This is what Carter was against.

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