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6. november 2017, 00:20:29
playBunny 
Onderwerp: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney
Roberto Silva: I'm getting sick and tired of all this constant whining of people who sign up for time limits they don't like and then complain when people aren't playing fast enough for their liking.

And I'm years past being sick and tired of people who think that their inability to understand this issue makes their "advice" of any value.

How many Pawns come to the site and join a tournament not knowing that it's going to take years and they won't be able to join another tournament? What's your solution for that?

You say not to join if the time limit is too long but what if it's a prize tournament? You're saying that people who can't wait years - sometimes decades - have to forgo the opportunity that such rare tournaments provide.

To add insult to injury, many of the excessively slow players who have joined those tournaments were Black Rooks who had no need of the membership that was to be won. In my book their action is either thoughtless or selfish and neither is a good thing, whether it's "within the rules" or not.

You have sympathy for people who have such a busy life that they can only play one move every nine days (seven day clock with weekends off). Do you really think that many of these people exist? Nine days between each move?

You say that people shouldn't have to "give up their busy lives to indulge others" - but you're ignoring the real issue - which is people indulging themselves with hundreds - and sometimes thousands - of games that they cannot play except at the very limits. Their life is busy alright - busy with too many games! And it's other people who suffer for that indulgence.

Do you begin to see that it's not as simple a situation as you've imagined? Do you begin to understand that STFU is not a solution?

Your question is my question.... Why is it so hard to understand?

6. november 2017, 08:26:34
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney
playBunny: there are also people with busy lives who don't have hundreds or thousands of games going on

those players can also make their moves within the time limits, but maybe too slow for others

i understand your point about pawns not knowing what they signep up for, and i also can go along with you for the prize tournaments

but for all the other tournaments, which is the most complaining about, the players do (or should) know what they signed up for, and specifically: they had the chance to join other tournaments with a time limit that better suits their taste, or create their own tournaments with their own time limit

for prize tournaments: the creator has chose the time limit for a specific reason

(and please keep this discussion cicilized)

6. november 2017, 22:42:11
Carpe Diem 
Onderwerp: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney
Carnie: If there are people with several hundred or even thousands of games who are still signing up and playing extremely slowly, I could see how that would be frustrating, although I'd be surprised if it was common. The way I arrived at the situation was that I was (and am) in several fellowships, and signed up for a lot of games at one time. A message for one tournament would come to me, and I'd sign up for a bunch of games, and then another message for another tournament would come before the first set of games started, and on that went for a little while. So I was signing up for more games not fully realizing how many I was committing to (obviously still my own fault). 

And also because games can, as we know, take a while, people's situations change. Mind did - I became a lot busier a couple of months after signing up for all of them.

None of this is to say that I think you aren't justified in being annoyed with this, but that it's not only people being inconsiderate - there are sometimes mitigating factors. And yes, people could resign their games, but doing that with hundreds of games is going to have a pretty huge impact on their BKRs, which is why people would be reluctant to do so.

crosseyed: Could be that Carnie is talking about past situations.

6. november 2017, 22:56:57
Aganju 
Onderwerp: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney
Carpe Diem: One of them is enough: Search for any running tourney from before 2012, see which games are running. it is typically a single player (or two) that keep such a tourney still in round 1 (although different ones in different tourneys). Just try it. I did it multiple times.

7. november 2017, 01:02:57
crosseyed_uk 
Onderwerp: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney
Aangepast door crosseyed_uk (7. november 2017, 01:07:54)
Carpe Diem:Re: crosseyed: Could be that Carnie is talking about past situations.
I see she has been in this site just over a year. Still fancy harping on about the past if indeed she has suffered in the past.

6. november 2017, 09:23:12
Carpe Diem 
Onderwerp: Re: Thousands of games and years to play one round of a tourney
playBunny: I don't disagree that it can be a problem, especially when, as you mention, it takes up the slots for a Pawn that's new to the site. But I also don't think it's fair to pin the problem completely on those who are playing within the designated time limits. The solution might be a combination of things - make it more clear to people the repercussions of signing up at certain time limits, and for signing up to multiple games in multiple tournaments, perhaps have some allowance to give pawns some more games to play if they are maxed out with games that are taking forever. 

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