Pedro Martínez: The Daily Mail has reverted back to being a tabloid.. Shame, it did have a period of being a good newspaper some 20 years back.

.. then again, some 60 years back it was supporting the pro Nazi movement in the UK, before that was banned.

Swings and roundabouts!!

Artful Dodger: You will always get the extremists saying the world is going to end, we've had it off the religious element for years.. The anti-christ is coming, end of the world..etc, etc, etc..... ... year 2k.. I worked for a firm making sure that computer systems of various companies would not cave by the 00 digit problem of old mainframe systems, yet some guy had the idea that toasters would stop working.. even though they had no chips in them.

Regardless of those extremists on all sides, we cannot deny mankind's impact. I saw a documentary on the British coast remarking on how when someone thought it was a bright idea to turn salt marsh into farmland it ruined a natural harbour which dried up through it's sea water supply being disturbed by the new farmland.

It's no good saying quoting the doom and gloomers and saying Global warming is wrong because their figures were inaccurate.

btw... that story is two years old and from what I gather to do with a few weeks of cold weather in one part of the arctic.

As the source says I'm looking at...

"It's called freaky Arctic weather.

"All of the action is in the Bering Sea," Serreze said.

"For the past several weeks, we've been under a rather unusual weather pattern, a cold pattern, that's given us this late spurt in ice growth in the Bering Sea. If you look at the rest of the Arctic Ocean proper, it is very warm."

The Bering Sea, between Alaska and Russia, is caught between two low-pressure systems.

"This is weather," said Serreze. "Don't conflate this with climate."

Serreze notes that on the Atlantic side of the Arctic, ice is low.

However, online climate change sceptics have seized on the data as proof that global warming is a hoax. By Thursday morning, hundreds of Twitter posts were referencing Serreze's graph - many linking to a Sydney Morning Herald blog that displays the graph without explanation or context.

"An inconvenient fact," reads one post. "Arctic sea ice back to normal - oops."

Another asked: "Will the hysterical eco-nuts be called out? NO!"

Right-wing think-tanks such as the U.S.-based Heartland Institute had stories on the graph, but without comment from Serreze. Other online articles quoted climate skeptics as if they were the authors of the research."

http://www.thefreepress.ca/article/GB/20100401/CP10/304019901/-1/FERNIE/northern-sea-ice-growth-a-fluke-not-end-of-climate-change-researcher&template=cpArt

Artful Dodger: If you mean the extreme Climate worriers are probably going to be proves wrong.. you are probably right.

If you are saying that mankind's impact on the planet is insignificant then I must remind you of a thing called combined effect. One instance of this is in India, where a certain area that produces much food is having problems now with it's wells used for irrigation. They just keep having to dig deeper.

Why... more farms.

The dustbowl of USA history was caused by bad farming practices that ended up with the topsoil blowing away. Nature had some part.. but the removal of hedgerows was a bad idea.

Artful Dodger: The carbon credit was/is and always be a farce is true. That we should keep the planet clean is true... have you ever heard of acid rain?