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3. August 2005, 19:09:43
gooner 
Its confusing when posts are missing :o)

3. August 2005, 19:20:29
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Purple (4. August 2005, 15:41:01)
gooner: Any missing posts were removed by the poster. (unless a Global Mod came in)

3. August 2005, 19:32:39
gooner 

6. August 2005, 07:46:29
Grim Reaper 
Subject: Checkers 10 piece database
Kingsrow has the 10-piece database now.

http://pages.prodigy.net/eyg/Checkers/10-pieceBuild.htm

6. August 2005, 21:23:16
Purple 
Subject: Maybe Obsolete Info

6. August 2005, 21:27:25
Purple 
Subject: Re: Checkers 10 piece database
Grim Reaper: Very impressive though the computer talk was way over my head.

6. August 2005, 23:53:00
BlitzMe 
Subject: Games
Will players invite me to some checker games?

7. August 2005, 08:04:05
Grim Reaper 
Modified by Grim Reaper (7. August 2005, 08:05:25)
http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=952957&i=16

I direct everyone's attention to the above position. After I made my move, my opponent, Ustica, made this remark to me in our game:

ustica: ustica: (7. August 2005, 01:48:33)
if i was white i do 24-28 not 1-6 you like publesh moves. oh well just my opion.


On our board, 1-6 is g1-f2 and 24-28 is b6-a7. The move the "great" ustica is trying to tell me to play will lose.

I am wondering, if he is so good, why doesn't he know this? Does he actually think he can persuade me to make a losing move.

What a great champion he is.

7. August 2005, 08:11:58
ustica tnp 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: I was wonder if you use 3 program or just one. but hey! if you wanna win you gotta take chance.

7. August 2005, 08:15:48
Grim Reaper 
Subject: Re:
ustica:

Take a chance? Translation. Lie about the move and see if your opponent believes you.

Sorry pal, one look at "24-28" (by the way, why did you say that instead of refer to the letters on the board on BrainKing? Oh, that's right, computer programs have numbers on them, don't they?) and I knew that was a losing move.

7. August 2005, 08:55:38
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: One look? I can stare at that move forever and don't see it as a losing one. I actually think it's not a bad move at all.

7. August 2005, 13:34:32
redsales 
Subject: Re:
gooner: i agree. serial unposting should be a crime..!

7. August 2005, 14:20:18
gooner 
and we miss all the juicy chat lol

7. August 2005, 14:48:39
Purple 
Subject: One More Day- Request Invite

7. August 2005, 17:15:14
BuilderQ 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: As for the numeric notation, have you noticed this Settings page?

7. August 2005, 17:27:04
Pedro Martínez 
Does anybody else think that the "24-28" is not a losing move?

7. August 2005, 17:55:28
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: There could be a problem analyzing moves of a game in progress as tempting as it is.

7. August 2005, 18:06:19
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Purple: What problem?

7. August 2005, 18:12:24
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: If the chat gets more detailed and someone suggests a course of action for a next move or even a strategy then someone could yell "foul." Analyze away..I do..but be careful about the posting because we don't want to provide excuses. The game is one on one.

7. August 2005, 18:16:11
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Purple: I'm talking about a move that was NOT played. Trice didn't move that way. I don't care about the game they play right now, I want to discuss the "24-28" move.

7. August 2005, 18:20:50
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: It seems hard to discuss the move that was not made without bringing in the move that was and how future moves were/are impacted by that.

7. August 2005, 18:33:01
Pedro Martínez 
Excuse me but that's a total nonsense what you wrote. I want to discuss a theoretical game that has absolutely no connection to the game these two are playing since it's already a completely different game. All I want to figure out is if Trice would have lost the game if he had moved 9.b6-a7. That's it. Absolutely no connection whatsoever to the ongoing game.

7. August 2005, 18:37:23
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: If it looks like it is impacting THIS game your post will be deleted whether you think it is nonsense or not.

7. August 2005, 18:38:23
Pedro Martínez 
Does anybody else think that the "24-28" is not a losing move?

7. August 2005, 18:40:29
Grim Reaper 
The piece that would have moved from 24 to 28 is now off the board, and cannot influence the play whatsoever.

That subgame, by defintion, cannot possibly occur in this game, since it is impossible to create any such position from the parent game with an extra piece on the board.

7. August 2005, 18:41:29
Grim Reaper 
Pedro, if you do not think it is a losing move, challenge me to a rated game, and play it. I will play the other side.

7. August 2005, 18:44:09
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: Fair offer. Do it that way.

7. August 2005, 18:44:59
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: OK. Thanks.

7. August 2005, 19:21:25
Pedro Martínez 
For anyone interested, it's this game:
http://brainking.com/cz/ShowGame?g=967503

8. August 2005, 02:10:44
Pedro Martínez 
So, the game is over. Grim Reaper has won. Amazing how someone can predict a loss/win in 131 moves (I mean this). Congrats

8. August 2005, 03:11:12
BlitzMe 
Maybe Ed Trice is the greatest player in the world :)

8. August 2005, 03:48:18
ustica tnp 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: WOW!!can predict 131 moves. must be the best. like in chess ,in 4 games was #1. WOW!! Congrats

8. August 2005, 03:52:09
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Socrates: I see a close game but I'll take Ustica and the points. LOL

8. August 2005, 03:58:29
Purple 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: That was impressive by any standard. Thanks.

8. August 2005, 04:12:30
Purple 
Subject: Re: Ustica and the points
Grim Reaper: I can see one move ahead maybe..so what do I know? LOL. But I have played Ustica 100 times in the last 4 years with zero wins. As I said it looks like a close game.

8. August 2005, 04:16:36
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Ustica and the points
Purple: how many times have you beat GR?

8. August 2005, 05:28:37
THE HIT MAN 
Subject: Re: Ustica and the points
Purple: where are u playing it bud

8. August 2005, 05:31:57
BlitzMe 
Congratulations on being the greatest online checkers player, Grim Reaper.

8. August 2005, 07:19:37
ScarletRose 
Subject: Re:
Socrates: Maybe he is a genius and no one wants to accept it.. haha..

He is a kewl dude actually.. he fools you all! :) Makes you think he is a meanie..

Hey Ed.. how's life? And I wonder why I don't play checkers with him.. haha

8. August 2005, 13:28:47
bwildman 
Subject: Re:
ScarletRose: isnt he just simply AmaZing??? LOL..I wonder if Purple is taking bets on the game of the century?

8. August 2005, 13:33:53
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Ustica and the points
Grim Reaper: how many possible outcomes are there in a game of checkers?
I only ask you this,because I know you have written checker programs for several years now.

8. August 2005, 15:36:38
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Ustica and the points
bwildman: There are three possible outcomes in a game of checkers.

8. August 2005, 15:40:13
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Ustica and the points
Pedro Martínez: duh..LOL..my bad..I should have said"end games"

8. August 2005, 17:42:00
CurrentRiver 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: Wow and Wow!!!!!! I had no ideal. :o)

8. August 2005, 17:51:09
bwildman 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: 131 moves?
that game went 74..am I missing something?

8. August 2005, 18:01:57
John Baker 
Subject: Re:
bwildman: He's most likely talking individual moves, and then only from the "losing move" they had been discussing. That way, 131 sounds about right.
There were 148 total moves in the game (74x2) and 131 moves back must have been the move in question.

8. August 2005, 18:04:18
bwildman 
Subject: Re:
John Baker: that makes sense.

9. August 2005, 00:27:40
ScarletRose 
Subject: Re: Positions..
see.. what'd I tell ya!! haha.. you go boy!! whooo hooo..

9. August 2005, 09:56:22
Jumper 
Subject: Re: Thought Puzzle
Grim Reaper: I got 9 once against a little computer program, no move list...

9. August 2005, 22:47:18
gooner 
What's the most in published play Ed?

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