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18. detsember 2008, 01:39:29
The Col 
Teema: Re: Bush in Iraq
Czuch: I don't think you'll find many people (Democrat or Republican) disagreeing that Saddam was a bad man,or that Iraq wasn't exactly a happy place to live for most of its people.The divide kicks in when asked if it was worth the sacrifice.

18. detsember 2008, 01:34:13
The Col 
Teema: Re: Bush in Iraq
Artful Dodger: I don't know,when I watch hilites of a football game where a team was trounced say, 45-10,I'd be more skeptical if the reporter focused on the great field goal kicked by the losing team

18. detsember 2008, 01:06:22
The Col 
Teema: Re: Bush in Iraq
Czuch: What's GW's popularity rating in Iraq? and if it's low,how many Iraq housholds are hooked up to American cable?

18. detsember 2008, 00:34:22
The Col 
Teema: Re:
Czuch: Maybe you're right,leave the tv,radio board to discussions of Laverne and Shirley

18. detsember 2008, 00:19:10
The Col 
Teema: Re:
Czuch: True,but many of these posts should be on the media board

18. detsember 2008, 00:07:47
The Col 
Teema: Re: (do liberals even have any values and ideals?)
Czuch: I supported Hillary,but being Canadian I can't vote in the USA

18. detsember 2008, 00:01:59
The Col 
Teema: Re: (do liberals even have any values and ideals?)
Artful Dodger: We are in full agreement on that

17. detsember 2008, 23:52:12
The Col 
Teema: Re: (do liberals even have any values and ideals?)
Czuch: I'm a fiscal conservative,social democrat,I might even lean Republican if they acted conservative,but that ship has sailed

17. detsember 2008, 23:26:30
The Col 
Teema: Re: (do liberals even have any values and ideals?)
Czuch: I'll be honest with you.The premis of your question is a lousy start point for any discussion I'd want to join.But good luck with your tossing of red meat

17. detsember 2008, 23:04:57
The Col 
Teema: Re: libs are so afraid of conservatives that they feel like they need to slant their news stories and warp our minds just to make liberalism more tolerable.
Czuch: I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that Hannity doesn't appeal or speak for your average Republican anymore than Olbermann speaks for your average Democrat.They both appeal to the "frothing at the mouth' factions, in my opinion

17. detsember 2008, 22:55:59
The Col 
Teema: interesting story
CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who was cited in a criminal complaint against Rod Blagojevich, went to the U.S. Attorney's office about alleged wrongdoers, including the Illinois governor, a Jackson spokesman said Tuesday.

Jesse Jackson Jr. reported in 2006 what he believed was a shakedown by the Illinois governor.

Jackson rejected being labeled with the term "informant" in a message to CNN contributor Roland Martin.

[...] In addition, two sources close to Jackson told CNN that, in 2002, Blagojevich -- then running for governor of Illinois -- solicited a $25,000 campaign donation from Jackson, which he did not get.

At the time, Jackson's wife, Sandi, was a candidate for the job of director of the state's Lottery Commission, a post she did not win, the sources said.

After Blagojevich took office, in early 2003, he told Jackson something to the effect of, "You see what $25,000 would have done?" the sources said.

In 2006, Jackson reported the incident, which he believed to have been an attempt at a shakedown, the sources said.

17. detsember 2008, 22:43:02
The Col 
Teema: Re: libs are so afraid of conservatives that they feel like they need to slant their news stories and warp our minds just to make liberalism more tolerable.
Czuch: And your thoughts on his evil counter balance twin Hannity?

17. detsember 2008, 22:22:33
The Col 
Teema: Re: libs are so afraid of conservatives that they feel like they need to slant their news stories and warp our minds just to make liberalism more tolerable.
(V): I suppose,talk radio(for instance) is dominated by conservative views in the states,it is what it is.I don't see the point of debating fact,but carry on

You can actually enjoy watching both left and right leaning programs regardless of ones personal views.I'm a liberal,but I can't stand Olbermann,I'm sure there are Republicans who feel the same about Hannity,who cares

17. detsember 2008, 21:55:06
The Col 
Teema: Re: libs are so afraid of conservatives that they feel like they need to slant their news stories and warp our minds just to make liberalism more tolerable.
Artful Dodger: Isn't this a media conversation?

Not that it matters,but I don't see a resolution in sight on this topic anyway,both sides of the discussion are far too dug in

17. detsember 2008, 01:12:41
The Col 
Teema: Re: The hard news at Fox is NOT biased and you can't provide even ONE example that it is. OTOH, I have provided examples of other HARD news outlets showing blatant bias.
(V): I agree,I don't see the point of those who argue Fox doesn't lean strongly to the right,it's not that big a deal.For some reason it drives those who work for or watch Fox nuts.It's just a given in my opinion,just like MSNBC leaning far left,who cares

17. detsember 2008, 01:00:42
The Col 
Teema: Re: The hard news at Fox is NOT biased and you can't provide even ONE example that it is. OTOH, I have provided examples of other HARD news outlets showing blatant bias.
Artful Dodger: Facts? how do you prove a comic is funny, statistically?
I'm pretty comfortable sticking my neck out on this one

16. detsember 2008, 21:28:01
The Col 
Teema: Re: The hard news at Fox is NOT biased and you can't provide even ONE example that it is. OTOH, I have provided examples of other HARD news outlets showing blatant bias.
Artful Dodger: In all seriousness, who other than Fox employees and likeminded viewers aren't aware of the bias? I mean come on.I don't care about their bias,what I find silly is their constant denials while keeping a straight face
MSNBC is much the same,but I doubt their viewers would try and state otherwise,they just sit back and enjoy

16. detsember 2008, 00:57:58
The Col 
Teema: Re: shoe throw
Artful Dodger: What press are you speaking of? or media in general.The press is played by both parties much like a coach works the refs.Historically both parties have had the press in their pockets at one time or another,even GW had his moments in the sun.When I read "Obama's relationship to Blagojevich is important to know' it reminds me of all the others who's name was placed at the top of that quote in relation to Obama this past election.Rezco,Wright,Ayers,it never ends.The investigation into Blagojevich is underway,if Obama has done anything wrong we'll find out.I suppose if a politician went to a concert not knowing that a former axe murderer was also at the show we'd be hearing "blankity blank's relationship to Dave the axe murderer is important to know" Can you imagine how this "guilt by being in the same time zone" mentality is effecting any politician who aspires for office these days?

they probably won't enter a burger king without doing background checks on everyone in line

15. detsember 2008, 21:25:38
The Col 
Teema: Re: "The White House said a disorderly bankruptcy in the motor industry would be a huge blow which the US economy could not withstand."
Czuch: sorry bud,not taking the bait.I've retired from these types of discussions,they go nowhere

I'f you're ever in my town we can chew the fat over a bottle of wine,I'll buy

15. detsember 2008, 20:47:34
The Col 
Teema: Re: "The White House said a disorderly bankruptcy in the motor industry would be a huge blow which the US economy could not withstand."
Czuch: I'm not interested in either word games,or silly messege board battles where the initial post becomes twisted beyond recognition.I said my piece,carry on

15. detsember 2008, 18:22:21
The Col 
Teema: Re: "The White House said a disorderly bankruptcy in the motor industry would be a huge blow which the US economy could not withstand."
Czuch: The issues you mentioned are typical politics,both sides play that game.The "fear" I mentioned isn't in the same league

15. detsember 2008, 18:19:55
The Col 
Teema: Re: shoe throw
Artful Dodger: You think they've been easy on Blagojevich? It hasn't seemed that way,and I don't see him getting any support from either party.Craig seemed to have no problems completing his term after he had said he was resigning.

15. detsember 2008, 07:00:05
The Col 
Teema: Re:
Artful Dodger: Fox ran that on Huckabee?

They must be hiring liberal writers,they're never usually that funny

15. detsember 2008, 00:23:07
The Col 
Teema: Re: "The White House said a disorderly bankruptcy in the motor industry would be a huge blow which the US economy could not withstand."
anastasia: I think Democrats were very restrained,too a fault.A President should be given a degree of respect,but the rest is earned

14. detsember 2008, 22:24:59
The Col 
Teema: Re: "The White House said a disorderly bankruptcy in the motor industry would be a huge blow which the US economy could not withstand."
The Col toimetatud (14. detsember 2008, 22:40:34)
Artful Dodger: He leveraged that blank check to accomplish his agenda,fear is a very valuable tool

as are a pair of Nike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8GOrc0-Ygg

14. detsember 2008, 22:19:11
The Col 
Teema: Re: "The White House said a disorderly bankruptcy in the motor industry would be a huge blow which the US economy could not withstand."
Artful Dodger: re:" If the Republicans do to Obama what the Democrats did to Bush, then the Republicans are a lower life form than slime"

He had the country in the palm of his hand after 9/11,.....he was given a blank check and proved himself untrustworthy.Obama has yet to take office,if he performs like Bush,he should recieve the same treatment.

12. detsember 2008, 06:41:46
The Col 
Teema: Re: Gov Blagojevich
anastasia: Billy Mays seems to think we're all deaf.Vince takes it to a whole other level of consciousness

9. detsember 2008, 22:57:18
The Col 
Teema: Re: Gov Blagojevich
coan.net: You might as well just put the Sham Wow guy in office.I don't think my cynicism can get any lower.

9. detsember 2008, 22:08:57
The Col 
Teema: Re: Gov Blagojevich
The Col toimetatud (9. detsember 2008, 22:12:52)
coan.net: He's in alot of trouble,did you not hear of his arrest today?

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/09/blagojevich.affidavit/?iref=mpstoryview

9. detsember 2008, 21:45:52
The Col 
Teema: Gov Blagojevich
He's been a bad bad boy,and I'm not speaking of the use of aerosol deodorant.

8. detsember 2008, 00:19:54
The Col 
Teema: Re: Change we can believe in. Can Obama deliver?
anastasia: Strategically the Republicans may be wise to sit this one out.Obama may point the economy in the right direction,but the benefits aren't sometimes felt for a number of years.Obama may end up doing the heavy lifting,but the Republicans may reap the rewards.

7. detsember 2008, 22:36:53
The Col 
Teema: Re: Change we can believe in. Can Obama deliver?
Czuch: Repairing the infrastructure is a wise move in this place in time.It's not going to solve the financial mess,but it's a logical start point towards the big picture.

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