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11. aprill 2009, 02:22:07 Teema: Hooray for the Frency  While an 800 million dollar US Naval ship floats helplessly, held at bay by 4 armed men in a little row boat, the French boarded a sailboat and freed the French hostages. One hostage was killed and so was one terrorist. The other three terrorists were captured. The US on the other hand are doing NOTHING! Stupid. Get some commandos, snipers, surround the little row boat, and if they threaten to kill the captain, shoot the bastards between the eyes. Then go after all the other pirates with a shoot first, ask questions later. Be proactive. Don't simply react to the attacks. Find the pirates, blow the hell out of them. Apologize later. Use the big guns on the big ship, blow their little ships to nothing. No bodies, no debris. Just a big splash and some red. After a while, the pirates will realize that it's not in their best interest to mess with the US. But once again the US acts like a wimp. Bush would NEVER have tolerated this crap! 11. aprill 2009, 14:41:27 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency  Artful Dodger: Bush would NEVER have tolerated this crap! So you're saying the pirates were waiting for Obama to get elected. There had been no piracy off the Somali coast before . 11. aprill 2009, 15:03:39 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Pedro Martínez: it was reported that no American ships had been pirated in decades 11. aprill 2009, 16:30:55 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Vikings: How about USS Cape St. George, USS Gonzalez, MV Seabourn Spirit (not a US-registered vessel, but owned by an American corporation) or MS Nautica (again, not registered in the US, but owned by a US-based corporation)? For further information on the Somali piracy problem, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_piracy 11. aprill 2009, 15:47:38 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Czuch toimetatud (11. aprill 2009, 15:48:42) Pedro Martínez: It will be a good litmus test for the new liberal appeasement/talk with our enemies, get to know and understand them better, have sympathy for them, and they will play nice too, mentality..... If these pirates let this captain go un harmed with tears in their eyes, heads hanging in shame and sorrow, and a new outlook for peaceful prosperity, then we will know that we finally have the solution to all of our problems!  11. aprill 2009, 16:32:00 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Czuch: Well, they won't rescue the captain without talking to the pirates, I can tell you that. 11. aprill 2009, 17:56:01 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Pedro Martínez:  Well, to my knowledge this is the first time a US hostage has been taken. But you're right that these pirates have been at this sort of crap a long time.11. aprill 2009, 18:07:19 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Pedro Martínez toimetatud (11. aprill 2009, 18:09:11) Artful Dodger: Yes, they have. And I actually think the international forces (including the US) have been doing a good job fighting against them. There were victims, there were ransoms paid, but the number of successful pirate acts has a decreasing tendency. I especially welcomed the recent incident involving FGS Spessart. 11. aprill 2009, 18:11:40 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Pedro Martínez:But don't you think they could do more? Like have a commando group on a few ships and set the pirates up? With a take no prisoners approach. A dead pirate can't reoffend. 11. aprill 2009, 18:27:35 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger: There is a comando group of sorts. It's called Combined Task Force 150. However, the take-no-prisoners approach is not feasible. International law, you know... :) But now when we have a US hostage, I can imagine a change in this respect - as the US has proven not to worry much about the international law in the past few years.  11. aprill 2009, 22:26:34 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Pedro Martínez:Well, if they surrendered, I'd have no choice but to take them prisoner. But while they are still armed and aggressive, I'd take a shoot to kill approach. If they survive, then they are captured. But my goal would be to make them dead first, captured second. 11. aprill 2009, 23:37:08 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger: With the exception of the last sentence, I totally agree.  11. aprill 2009, 20:53:26 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger: There's millions of poor desperate young men always willing to fill any open ranks with the Pirates! 11. aprill 2009, 18:11:39 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger:  Us hostages have been taken before. Maybe not in this area, but certainly in other areas of the world.11. aprill 2009, 18:12:36 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency (V):When and where and what was done? 11. aprill 2009, 22:41:20 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Iran is one of them.. aka Iran-gate. 11. aprill 2009, 22:42:24 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency (V):One of them what? 11. aprill 2009, 23:05:24 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger: Instances where USA citizens have been taken hostage. Then there are those taken in Iraq.. 11. aprill 2009, 23:10:41 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency (V):Oh yeah. That was with that wimpy ineffective moron Jimmy Carter. He was one of the worst presidents in US history. Iran knew that Reagan wouldn't put up with anymore of their nonsense and they released them. You have to take a hard stand against terrorists. No soft approach will do. No "understanding their motives." Take it to them. And use lots of ammo and head aims. Dead terrorists can't whine about international law or rights or whatever. 12. aprill 2009, 00:42:03 Teema: Re: Hooray for the Frency Artful Dodger: Unfortunately in matter like this, such action has a high friendly death toll probability. If you wanted to really stop the pirates, you'd have to show that having a hostage is not a shield. .... As for Reagan..... Sure he was tough. He traded weapons for people... A great stance against terrorists. |
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