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25. märts 2009, 11:04:13
The Col 
Teema: Re: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Artful Dodger: I suggest you refresh yourself on your 'guidlines--

* No 'flaming' - in other words, avoid personal attacks, pettiness, abuse. Respect other users, and if you disagree with them, explain why. Posts that are considered aggressively offensive will be subject to moderation.

This may be your own personally moderated playpen, but accussing me of exploiting lost soldiers is pretty offensive, grow up

Your tasteless assertion logically leads to the assumption that if a network such as MSNBC(which I also find too slanted for my tastes) ,or any other network were to broadcast the same program content I would avoid voicing my disgust at the "comedy"

I'm a proud Canadian, and your dark cynicism is beyond rude

25. märts 2009, 11:13:16
Bernice 
Teema: Re: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Jim Dandy: That is a personal attack in my view....
Im surprised you havent been moderated......perhaps AD is asleep, or where is Vikings.....he is right onto it all the time...

25. märts 2009, 11:19:02
The Usurper 
Teema: Re: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Bernice: Now now Bernice. Remember what Czuch said about censorship, he's your ally....and remember all those censorship quotes? You can't be looking to have people moderated just because they argue with AD. :o)

And I've more-or-less stayed out of this debate. I've been interested to watch it & consider the arguments of both sides.

25. märts 2009, 11:25:24
Mort 
Teema: Re: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Bernice: No.. He is stating he is Canadian. Therefore he has a right by nature of his nationality and his love for his country's soldiers and military to be upset.

I mean... Do you like it when soldiers from your country get killed in action, or are put down? I'm sorry if I'm wrong.. but you seem to me to be proud of where you live.

25. märts 2009, 11:32:18
The Col 
Teema: Re: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Bernice: Frankly my opinion of the allegation directed my way is more important than being moded,it was a cheap personal shot

25. märts 2009, 17:02:38
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Jim Dandy: Jim Dandy: But it is exploitive I also see it as feigned indignation. Your outrage is out of proportion to the offense. Your hatred for Fox News is well known. So I see it as an excuse to take a shot at Fox. But it's dishonest. It's not about Fox. It's about a show that mocks the news and how in this case, they stepped over the line. There was a huge backlash over it. The host had to retract the statement. BTW, the Canadian authorities accepted the apology. So that makes it no longer an issue. People exploit these kinds of situations all the time. The video you posted exploits the situation. The outrage is way out of proportion to what was said by a group of comedians. The comedians suffered from the backlash. One had his upcoming comedy show cancelled. People threatened to boycott the advertisers.
The statements made on that show were insensitive and insulting. They were made worse by the fact that 4 Canadian solders had been killed just days before the airing of the show. You want to be mad over that? Then be mad in the right direction and at the right people. But don't exploit it for your own use. That's what I see you have done. Keep it all in perspective. Had a US politician said those things, your level of outrage would be justified. Had the President said them, even more. But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news? Not so much.

25. märts 2009, 18:01:40
Mort 
Teema: Re: But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news?what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Artful Dodger: They were not mocking the news, they were mocking the Canadian Military.

And as I said, if people in the UK can get canned for making inappropiate jokes.. why can't the same apply to another joke making people?

And ya know the BBC... the jokers who got canned... they got told off as well, and had to apologise. IE they were the ones who employed the jokers, and by right should set standards on what their people are allowed to do.

25. märts 2009, 19:37:06
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news?what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
(V): They make fun of the news. In this case the news was about the Canadian military. Some here in the US can also get canned (and have) for over the top remarks. But it's rare. We do have a thing called freedom of speech here in the US. It does have its limits, but in this case, the use of their freedom of speech came back and bit them in the butt. I think the backlash was sufficient to send them a strong message and likely they got it. So all this talking about it really surprises me. Nothing else will change by rehashing it over and over. And repeating your same points isn't necessary now is it?

25. märts 2009, 19:41:10
Mort 
Teema: Re: But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news?what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Artful Dodger: The talking has carried on because of the talk that carried it on. People will voice their feelings here. You know that.

And no.

25. märts 2009, 19:48:46
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news?what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
(V): Not just here but on the net people have gone on and on and on about it. Phony outrage designed to score points. That sort of nonsense happens in politics all the time. Both sides of the political spectrum (and all points inbetween) practice this dishonesty. I think the left is the worst at it but the right is not immune to such displays of exploitation and dishonestly either. Some reported the story in a legitimate and honest way. But most exploited it. When the level of outrage is greater than the level of the offense, something else is at play.

25. märts 2009, 19:53:27
Mort 
Teema: Re: But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news?what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
Artful Dodger: Mmmmmm all phoney? Or the reaction is just not what you anticipated?

And no Art.... It's all the same, saying the left does it more is score pointing by the right... and the left saying the right do it more is score pointing by the left.

Sorry, but empirical evidence from watching our Houses of Parliament at work does not support your assumption.

25. märts 2009, 21:22:48
Czuch 
Teema: Re: But a group of comedians on a late night show that mocks the news?what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.
(V): And as I said, if people in the UK can get canned for making inappropiate jokes.. why can't the same apply to another joke making people?

So you would support then, I guess Bam being fired for joking about the disabled right??? hahahah

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