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8. november 2012, 00:44:30
JerNYC 
Teema: Thoughts on Romney
It's funny how he's getting no credit for what he achieved last night in defeat. Not even from his own party. Everyone is focusing on the simple win/loss but they are overlooking the state by state results. The man won over 200 electoral votes! Let me put this in perspective: He got more electoral votes as a Republican loser than John McCain, Bob Dole and George Bush, Sr (who was an incumbent). This is from a man who was neither likeable nor relatable and he was a Mormon!

He reinforced their electoral base (heartland and the south) and caused Obama to drop percentage wise in states that he also won in 2008. Almost every swing state was close to 50/50 or a few percentage points off. Imagine if they actually had a candidate that could connect with real people.

When the Republicans finally wise up and run a candidate that has crossover appeal and who outright rejects the far right-wing, they will have a chance again. If Christie gets a second term in Jersey, I expect him to be a frontrunner in '16. Christie is the kind of guy that can sit in a diner with auto workers in Ohio and Michigan and look like he was the auto worker, not the politician. The man is also downright Machiavellian. The way he embraced Obama after the storm and left Romney out to dry was no mistake. Remember his name.

8. november 2012, 02:15:56
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
JerNYC: Well said!

8. november 2012, 06:47:55
The Col 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
Artful Dodger: um, it was well said, and Christie is a Republican moderate, but you are the " far right-wing" he must reject from reading your views

8. november 2012, 09:01:52
Iamon lyme 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
The Col: Christie must reject from reading AD's views?

8. november 2012, 09:14:08
Iamon lyme 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
The Col: What about my views? Is it okay for Christie to log onto brainking and read my views?

By the way, have you informed Christie whose views he may view and whose views he may not view? If he doesn't hear from you soon he might just go ahead and read any 'ol darn thing he wants to, whether you approve of it or not.

So anywho, how's the view up there on your high horsey thingy there... can you see all of us from up there okay, eh?

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8. november 2012, 14:45:02
Mort 
Teema: Re: If he doesn't hear from you soon he might just go ahead and read any 'ol darn thing he wants to, whether you approve of it or not.
Iamon lyme: ... Likewise he might read something he wants you don't approve of... which seems to be a lot.

8. november 2012, 21:24:50
Iamon lyme 
Teema: Re: If he doesn't hear from you soon he might just go ahead and read any 'ol darn thing he wants to, whether you approve of it or not.
(V): I was thinking of asking you to translate if for me, seeing as how you both speak the same "language", but that would be like hauling coals to Newcatstle. I was also thinking maybe I could get it translated from English into... English? But it was actually the message itself (not the garbled language) I found amusing. The idea that Christie must not read what AD says (at this board?) was hilarious. But who knows, in the near future there could actually be laws to regulated what people may or may not read. There are laws in existence now that people 40 years ago would have scoffed at you for even suggesting could be become law.

8. november 2012, 22:45:14
Mort 
Teema: Re: But who knows, in the near future there could actually be laws to regulated what people may or may not read.
Iamon lyme: Like in Texas?

"The idea that Christie must not read what AD says (at this board?) was hilarious."

If Christie goes by you or AD politics wise.. The GOP won't ever get elected. That is what was said.. don't you get it? Former Republican congressmen get it, Jon Stewart gets it and so does an increasing number of your fellow countrymen.

"There are laws in existence now that people 40 years ago would have scoffed at you for even suggesting could be become law."

Of course there are. Some for good reason.. but just saying there are laws is kinda another sound bite that means nothing unless I give it gravity.

.. I see no gravitational effect. Words need weight from example, rather than bogey men.

This has more weight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY

9. november 2012, 02:14:04
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: But who knows, in the near future there could actually be laws to regulated what people may or may not read.
(V): Nah, name some policies I favor that Christie wouldn't like.

9. november 2012, 15:00:22
Mort 
Teema: Re: name some policies I favor that Christie wouldn't like.
Artful Dodger: Saying Obama was crap in helping his state.

"V doesn't know that it's not actually tasteless to say "drink the koolaid." Koolaid comes in many flavors and it's anything but tasteless."

Didn't say it was tasteless... but it's not sold in the UK except maybe in 'USA' goods stores. We've got our own weird ones, n' some of the varieties that we get from the Nepalese shops is...

8. november 2012, 17:57:10
The Col 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
Iamon lyme: shouldda been a comma after "reject"

8. november 2012, 21:31:36
Iamon lyme 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
The Col: [ shouldda been a comma after "reject" ]

Doh!! Of course... that was it! It was missing a comma. How could I have missed that?

9. november 2012, 02:12:34
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
Papa Zoom toimetatud (9. november 2012, 02:18:26)
Iamon lyme: The Gov called me and said he likes my views. He said that he views my views as easily viewable. At least that was the view he shared of his view of my views.

BTW, - my dogs just ate their poop. They are liberals. They always want a handout. And even if it's crap, but free, they want it.

9. november 2012, 02:09:25
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
The Col: actually you're wrong. You're just so far left that I look far right. When I take the tests to determine my overall political leanings, I end up moderate conservative to libertarian.

9. november 2012, 06:30:13
The Col 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
Artful Dodger: can i see the test? I don't think anyone who reads this board could possibly miss your "political leanings" so it should be pretty easy to fill in the boxes

9. november 2012, 06:59:56
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
The Col: Political leanings doesn't make me far right. I'm a fiscal conservative. So are those on the far right. So are the moderates. I'm libertarian on some social issues. On matters of immigration policy I actually favor Regan's amnesty plan. However, liberals never have been serious about curbing the actual flow of illegals. Still, I don't hold to the radical idea of sending illegals back to Mexico etc. Especially if they have families here in the US. And I'm not alone. Many conservatives recognize that we have to do something to stop illegals from crossing our borders unchecked while still dealing with the illegals that we allowed (through our lax policies) to work and live in the US. That's hardly a far right position.

I am totally against abortion except for the life of the mother. That is a far right position but I have better arguments for my position than anyone on the left. Moderates who make exceptions for rape and incest are hypocrites. I do not make those exceptions.

I believe in small government. This is a far right position as it is a moderate view as well. Libertarians also want smaller government.

I want to see a decrease in spending across the board. I want unnecessary government departments closed for good. The EPA is a good place to start. I'd let each state take care of their own environmental concerns. I'd repeal healthcare because it's too costly and none of the Federal Govt business.

Even moderates want to see spending cuts. For that matter, so do some center leaning liberals. Most Americans agree with me that the healthcare bill needs to go. It was shoved down our throats with ZERO Republican support.

When you look at all my views, only an uninformed idiot could conclude I fit into the far right camp.

ps....bite me.

8. november 2012, 02:25:57
rod03801 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
JerNYC: I agree about Christie. My first thought with how he handled everything after Sandy was that it was with the intention of setting up 2016. I kind of like him. There's a few that sort of interest me for 4 years from now. Rubio is one. I still also like Ryan.

8. november 2012, 02:58:35
Papa Zoom 
Teema: Re: Thoughts on Romney
rod03801: I'm totally with you on that!

8. november 2012, 14:42:48
Mort 
Teema: Re: When the Republicans finally wise up and run a candidate that has crossover appeal and who outright rejects the far right-wing, they will have a chance again. If Christie gets a second term in Jersey, I expect him to be a frontrunner in '16.
JerNYC: I hope so, from the little I've seen he looks like a guy who'll work more readily with the other side rather than against it all the time.

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