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15. jaanuar 2011, 21:14:52
Mort 
Another point.. making guns easy to get hold of by the nutter element all countries have... It takes more to cross the line to murder without access to guns. It seems that building up to being a killer is a stage thing. A gun makes that jump easier, whilst closer killing takes more and is less likely to be a big kill.

As to the numbers being less than car deaths. Yes.. they are, but that does not make the problem go away of nutters getting guns. It's just a poor defense of having a no system of protecting people from nutters with guns, and as such justifying that this is ok to protect your rights.

Well... what about those who die at the hands of nutters with guns right to live?

16. jaanuar 2011, 00:30:33
ScarletRose 
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(V):  I agree with you .. there should be some screening done when selling a gun.. unfortunately as long as we have those selling guns and accessing guns illegally it makes it rather difficult to control whose hands they fall into.. I definitely don't think my ex should ever have access due to his drunken idiotic behavior.. to which he claims he never can remember. (A common complaint of those with Bi-Polar when mixing alcohol).. People however the more they strut they have their constitutional rights seem to remember when the constitution was written over 200 years ago the amount of people in the US was more manageable along with the ways society has changed.. I really think the constitution and some of the laws really need to be re assessed.. to match up with this day and age.

16. jaanuar 2011, 18:58:28
Mort 
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ScarletRose: I've seen a 11 year old kid in the USA showing off his personal gun collection. He had over ten plus a saber and other stuff. That most of what he had would knock the kid off his feet if he tried to fire them seemed irrelevant.

I saw on Fox news the other night moans about regulation in certain states over records being kept over buying high powered rifles, etc.. and that people couldn't buy more than two in 5 days.

... But looking back at talk and notes from those around at the time when the 2nd amendment was made.. Responsibility was part of having a militia and self defense..

.. The cheapness and mass production of arms today was not considered or thought of. We are talking of a time of muskets. Single shot slow loading arms... not semi or automatic weapons with large clips. One platoon with automatic weapons could wipe out an army of musket carrying soldiers.

BIG difference.

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