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<< < 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 > >> 4. märts 2009, 22:03:39 Teema: Re: How do you think when it comes to matters?  (V): It represents your strawman argument. 4. märts 2009, 21:57:08 Teema: Re: How do you think when it comes to matters? (V):  4. märts 2009, 20:32:07 Teema: How do you think when it comes to matters? Czuch: Easy one for me to answer: Correctly 4. märts 2009, 07:29:01 Teema: Re: Wikipedia & proving it line-by-line The Usurper:  It will be my quest in life to lead you to the right path; and your quest to lead me astray ;)  4. märts 2009, 07:22:29 Teema: Re: Wikipedia & proving it line-by-line The Usurper:I'll look at it. But I'll also offer some other quotes that are similar to Iran's leader and so actually support my position and put yours in question. 4. märts 2009, 07:21:01 Teema: Re: "His Jewishness doesn't preclude truth telling." The Usurper:It is logical to keep it in mind but it doesn't necessarily "raise the odds" as his information can easily be checked out. If what you say is true, then no news source is trustworthy as all of us, no matter what we claim to the contrary, have a bias. I am biased toward the conservative view. But if I report on something the Democrats said or did, the fact that I favor conservatism doesn't preclude my truth telling with regard to my reporting. You commit a logical fallacy when you paint the report because of the source. The source MAY be relevant to the criticism, but it doesn't simply follow that since the reporter is close to the story then the story must be taken with a grain of salt.  I do get your point but I'm still right. 4. märts 2009, 07:13:32 Teema: Re: "Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel." The Usurper:"There is a lot of dubious translation" Prove it - line by line 4. märts 2009, 07:12:42 Teema: Re: "All Israel - But No Palestinian - Leaders Want to End the Conflict" The Usurper:What you can do is show where the Palestinians have put forth real and consistent effort at peace. Rather than try to refute everything I offer, show some positive proof. And BTW, wikipedia isn't a reliable source. Even I can contribute to articles there. It's not a scholarly deposit of information. It's a collection of information from anyone who cares to add to the lot. Sure there are safeguards, but it's the internet and I went to the link and was able to edit some of the information. So how reliable is that source? 4. märts 2009, 07:09:19 Teema: Re: "All Israel - But No Palestinian - Leaders Want to End the Conflict" The Usurper:Not so. It's a logical fallacy to "take with a grain of salt" historical facts simply because they are reported by someone who shares ancestry with the land he is reporting on. You can't just wipe them out because the person reporting is Jewish. His Jewishness doesn't preclude truth telling. 4. märts 2009, 06:46:09 Teema: Re: "Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel." Papa Zoom toimetatud (4. märts 2009, 06:48:39) The Usurper: “There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world....Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury (while) any (Islamic leader) who recognizes the Zionist regime means he is acknowledging the surrender and defeat of the Islamic world....As the Imam [Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini] said, Israel must be wiped off the map.” — Speech by <span>Iranian 4. märts 2009, 06:41:37 4. märts 2009, 06:32:03 Teema: Re: "Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel." The Usurper:How many copy paste credits do I have? (found some good quotes )4. märts 2009, 06:24:25 Teema: Re: "Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel." The Usurper:Well, you didn't know I collectivized until now so that can't be your point about my caricaturing. What is the national policy of Iran towards Israel? Total destruction. one down 4. märts 2009, 06:13:36 Teema: Re: "Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel." The Usurper:I don't think that's a fair comparison. We're talking about the whole of the Arab world and the collective attitude of the group. Which Arab nation openly and regularly supports Israel's right to exist? And which ones openly and regularly support Israel's ultimate defeat? Those that are silent can be placed in the latter category. 4. märts 2009, 05:42:10 Teema: "Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel." The Usurper:Except that the leaders themselves have said as much. 4. märts 2009, 05:34:10 Teema: Re: "But you don't understand the middle east mindset" The Usurper:"I believe your understanding of the Middle East mindset is more a caricature of reality," You can't possibly know anything about my understanding about he Middle East from the little I've said let alone characterize it as a caricature. lol Neither you nor I fully understand the Middle East to make fully intelligent statements regarding the policies, politics or attitudes they hold. At best we both hold misguided to uninformed to semi-informed understandings. ;) 4. märts 2009, 04:37:07 Teema: Re: Cease fire in Israel The Usurper:apartheid is a bit strong. If you were surrounded by your enemies, who attacked you on with the intentions of wiping you out, (6-Day; Yom Kippur) and from the moment of Israel's "rebirth," they have been attacked. And if those same enemies vowed to drive you into the sea, and if those same enemies had as their holy book words written in it to kill you where they find you, then you might see things as they do. It's easy for you with your Western eyes to look at Israel as the agressor. But you don't understand the middle east mindset and particularly don't understand the enemies of Israel. Nothing will appease the Arabs except for the complete extermination of Israel. Israel is NOT seeking their extermination and history has shown that they have put forth multiple efforts at peace. It is always the Arabs that break the peace. 4. märts 2009, 04:04:30 Teema: Re: Cease fire in Israel The Usurper: Facts and interpretations of the facts are two different things. Just so we're clear on those parameters. One thing that would have to be made clear to me, how anyone is justified in firing rockets into civilian targets simply for terrorist purposes. Nothing is gained for Hamas by the rocket attacks. They are meant to provoke Israel, knowing Israel will respond with a heavy hand. Then they can whine to the world about Israel's aggressive tactics. If I were Israel, I'd never have given back any territory after the 6 day war and Yom Kippur. The Arabs have promised to drive Israel into the sea and that is what they will continue to try to do. No matter how many consessions Israel makes, and they have made many, the Arabs will never rest until Israel no longer exists. This is a fact to which they themselves attest. 4. märts 2009, 03:41:47 Teema: Re: Cease fire in Israel The Usurper:there's always an alternative viewpoint. 4. märts 2009, 03:26:21 Teema: Re: Cease fire in Israel The Usurper: Looking at the current situation since January 18, where at least two rockets a day have been launched into Israel from Gaza, and Israel has honored the cease fire, what other way is there to see it? The Arabs firing the rockets are the good guys? Sure. 4. märts 2009, 03:20:17 Teema: Cease fire in Israel The cease fire in Israel goes like this. Israel will cease. The arabs will continue to fire. Yeah, since the ceasefire in January, there have been 100 rocket attacks by Hamas onto civilian targets. That's 2 per day. And what is the world doing about this? They are raising money to give to Hamas for rebuilding. Really. And all that money will go to rebuilding Gaza. Not on your life. Expect to see more of the same. Gaza sends rockets, the US (along with Britain) sends Gaza money, and Israel will once again be alone against the world. 4. märts 2009, 00:43:10 Thanks Vikings. Wow. It's been a day. Normally I'm not on as much during the day (sometimes not at all) and that's why I put the board on approval. I'm keeping it that way for a bit. Then when I change it back, I'm kicking it up a notch with respect to on topic posts. I will begin by first apologizing to the group for setting a very bad tone in the beginning of this board. I should have known better. I used the excuse that politics is an emotional topic (and it is) and that a bit of fur flying isn't bad (it isn't good either) and so the decorum was set. My bad. Since I can't read minds, I can't assume the worst about posts. If they look like they might be directed at someone on BK, then it just might get deleted. The only safe post is one that truly sticks to the issue. There are many ways of doing this and I'm not saying we all have to be 100% polite. Speak your mind etc but stick to the issues. A tactful approach is a good idea. 3. märts 2009, 07:39:03 Teema: Re: The Usurper: I'll have more worthless bits of wisdom tomorrow. ;) 3. märts 2009, 07:38:30 Now I lay my little head As I go off into my bed But in the morning will I dread Reading here all that's been said? Hope not. It's a new day. Start fresh. 3. märts 2009, 07:36:49 Teema: Re: Bwild: Happy belated here too. And BTW, there's some pi for you on the GC board. Everyone can have some pi ;) 3. märts 2009, 07:03:24 Papa Zoom toimetatud (3. märts 2009, 07:06:02) Just one question for the group: Did you find my story Dick's Tator Ship and "appealing" story? 3. märts 2009, 07:01:48 Teema: something up my sleeve The Usurper: 3. märts 2009, 07:01:13 Teema: Re: The End Game The Usurper:I knew a potato farmer named Richard. Well I only knew about him. He was a ruthless boss and controled every aspect of the lives of those that worked for me. He shipped his potato crop all over the world. And thus the name for a ruthless leader began. The ships were known as Dick's Tater Ships. After a while, the words blended together. Today, we call all ruthless leaders, after Richard the potato farming giant. 3. märts 2009, 06:50:23 Teema: Re: re: Problem-Reaction-Solution The Usurper:I worked at a job where they violated our right to bare arms. I complained and even filed a lawsuit, but the judge said the firm I worked for had a right to a dress code. So I had to wear the long sleeve shirts as part of my uniform. 3. märts 2009, 06:38:04 Teema: Re: "So I ripped out his frontal lobe." The Usurper:"So...ummm...could I have it back now?" 3. märts 2009, 06:14:40 Teema: Re: "isn't freedom to speak our minds a great thing?" Bernice: I had a discussion with a guy once and he said that he wanted to give me a piece of his mind. So I ripped out his frontal lobe. 3. märts 2009, 05:50:12 Teema: Re: re: Problem-Reaction-Solution The Usurper: We need Jack Bauer. lol 3. märts 2009, 05:12:29 Teema: Re: "isn't freedom to speak our minds a great thing?" The Usurper:I try. :) 3. märts 2009, 05:02:34 Here's the deal on deleting posts. I've deleted one (that I remember) and that person was contacted. According to the BK guidelines, a person should be contacted. I'm going to try to clear this up. In the meantime, cooler head will prevail. The politics board can be attract some pretty heated exchanges. Don't I know. So when that happens, people need to go to their corners and take deep breaths. Then rejoin the fray. In the end, it's all for fun. We're not going to change the world. If we're lucky, we might change a mind or two and an issue here or there, but even if we don't, isn't freedom to speak our minds a great thing? ;) 3. märts 2009, 04:39:22 Teema: Re: Bernice:Well it wasn't me. 2. märts 2009, 23:14:31 Teema: Re: Czuch: I compost all the time and recycle everything. Lots of people do. And there are organizations that adopt parts of our highways and keep them clean. Plus many people take great care of the land, which they should. We are stewards of what we have an we ought to take good care of the land for ourselves and future generations. ;) And BTW, I'm not a greener nor an environmentalist  2. märts 2009, 23:11:36 Teema: Re:What might one call someone who habitually snipes at the posts of others without contributing much to any conversation in particular? :o) The Usurper: It's called sniping. When a guy does it, you call it a snipe from a sniper. When a lady does it, it's a snipe from a snipette. There's a whole branch of study called "Snipology" where people study the sniping tactics of people. Also, there's snipe hunting, which has nothing to do with sniping as a snipe is also an animal that only comes out at night and snipe hunting is popular in different parts of the world.
2. märts 2009, 06:51:39 And don't forget that going to the north pole was part of the conspiracy too. 2. märts 2009, 06:50:48 Teema: Re: How the Mainstream Media works.... The Usurper:I love the blame America first crowd. The only two aggressive nations are the US and Israel. lol But do go on. I've read the websites and I know the drill. 2. märts 2009, 05:45:01 Teema: Re: hard times in Europe, probably bushes fault Charles Martel:The world has gone mad. Another call for yet another bailout. 2. märts 2009, 04:27:57 Teema: Re: Bernice:I just found out that my credit union, who has been giving legitimate loans and has a healthy reserve of money, is in an insurance co-op as a result of other financial institutions and their bad loand, my bank is charged (hundreds of thousands) to help with the costs. It's the way things are. But it's sad that a responsible lending institution has to suffer because others gave bad loans and are now in trouble. 2. märts 2009, 04:19:48 Teema: Re: Bernice:As in he took the money and ran? 2. märts 2009, 03:08:08 Teema: Re: Papa Zoom toimetatud (2. märts 2009, 03:09:43) Bernice:They are cartoons by Aussies but not necessarily about Australia. Maybe you can help. adios This one is related to the above another and 2. märts 2009, 02:29:12 Teema: Re: The Pentagon Strike anastasia: That's always been my view too. 2. märts 2009, 02:14:36 Teema: Re: Bernice:Hey I found some political cartoons from Australia but can't understand them all. I think you have be be an Aussi to get them. Wanna see a few? 2. märts 2009, 01:43:40 Teema: Re: The Pentagon Strike anastasia:He's passionate about it. Some of the things brought up does make one think. I'm afraid that some of those in the conspiracy camp hurt their own cause by their telling as opposed to simply putting stones in our shoes. I prefer the latter.<< < 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 > >> |
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