BrainKing - Diskussionsborde (Checkers)

Emne: Re: hello all

B L I T Z M E:I don t no who you are. but i look in my winning list and i see your name there. if you wanna play, play with your rank.
note! no Advertising. becose

ciao.

12. December 2006, 23:42:50

gooner

Lets all play with each other instead of being big headed

13. December 2006, 16:11:19

Is it possible to reset your own BKR(s) back to default "unrated" state.

14. December 2006, 00:03:37

pattypoo

Emne: Re: hello all

david upshaw, welcome aboard.. Good to have you here. Just quit beating me in the checker games.

18. December 2006, 05:07:40

david upshaw

Emne: Re: hello all

pattypoo: Thank you pattypoo.

18. December 2006, 05:17:35

david upshaw

Emne: Re:

Tilpasset af david upshaw (18. December 2006, 05:18:27)

Grandmaestro: I don't think so. What if all the people you beat went back to "unrated"? It wouldn't be fair to your record. Ratings wouldn't be worth anything if we could simply reset them. Thats just my opinion. If you want an offical answer send the question to Fencer.

18. December 2006, 06:34:04

Emne: Re:

david upshaw: It's fine. It will just take longer than it would of to be high rated. First 4 games in this rating system are the most important to getting a good head start.

19. December 2006, 21:29:25

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re:

Grandmaestro: Knowing that, you should have paid better attention to the time control of those games...*shrugs*

20. December 2006, 08:29:25

Emne: Re:

Pedro Martínez: The games were 14 hours per move without days off. I didn't pay attention to the "no days off" and I timed out over the weekend. If I knew it was no days off I wouldn't of timed out!

There should be an option to reset one's own BKR anyways.

20. December 2006, 08:29:54

Especially for payed members.

I know I'm not a payed member.

20. December 2006, 12:15:51

Emne: Re:

Grandmaestro: You can always "forget" your actual membership, and begin another, even with the same name!

20. December 2006, 14:04:28

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re:

Grandmaestro: Like I said, you should have paid better attention to the time control. If you had, you wouldn't have timed out. It was only your own fault. Wanting the whole BKR system to be restructured because of your own mistakes is a bit brassy. By the way, there are no payed memberships on BrainKing. None of the available ones have anything to do with ropes either.

Gabriel Almeida: No, he can't. At least not if he wants to honor the User Agreement. I actually don't understand why are you inciting him to do so...:(

20. December 2006, 17:02:23

Emne: Re:

Pedro Martínez: Because cheating doesn't look to be a problem in Brainking... noone cares about it!

21. December 2006, 02:22:09

Emne: Reminder

No personal attacks. Please confine your posts to checkers.

21. December 2006, 08:32:34

sobek

Emne: BKR system

Pedro Martinez: nice bedtime story " BKR system to be restructured", even cock and bull story :-))
BKR is very, very bad system. Sample: Nick Klaun played and won 5 games. One opponent has BKR cca 1800 and for between 1100-1400. And Klaun has BKR 2121 :-)))))). Suggestion: new nick, more time win with weak opponent and You will be King in BrainKing :-)))))

21. December 2006, 21:05:21

Emne: My 2 cents

Why is bkr so important anyway? We are not all on an even playing field. Ever since I learned of the many many people (or should I say accounts) that cheat to boost their ratings,my bkr means nothing to me. I know that if I play a few select friends who I know are not using programs or multiple nics to boost their rating that whether I win,lose or draw,I'm satisfied with a good game played.
whatever happened to playing for the fun of it?

21. December 2006, 21:53:58

Papa Zoom

Emne: Re: My 2 cents

Stardust: It's an achievement. A trophy. I play for the fun of it but BKR is important to me. Some games I don't play so well. But where I am good (or decent) then the BKR is a testament to that ;)

22. December 2006, 02:59:34

Emne: Re: My 2 cents

Gr☺uch☺: Yes,I see what you're saying and I agree to a degree. It's just that some people cheat, lie or steal to be at the top of the chart. They aren't there because they are the best at their particular game. I guess it's finding a balance between playing for fun and playing for 'points'.
What has turned me off is the fact that a person's true rating isn't known because of the players who cheat the system.

22. December 2006, 06:36:22

david upshaw

Emne: Re: My 2 cents

Gr☺uch☺: I agree. Ratings aren't important when compared to family, job security, or personal health, but it is fun to see your ratings jump after a tough win. I can't understand how anyone can enjoy cheating to win, but it happens. I don't think it happens often because cheaters get bored and move on.

22. December 2006, 09:03:01

There is a gamesite which has 99.9% cheating protection for checkers and other games.

22. December 2006, 12:07:43

Emne: Re: My 2 cents

david upshaw: I think you would be surprised at how much it does happen because there are people who have made cheating the actual game.

22. December 2006, 13:42:05

Emne: Re:

Grandmaestro: Kurnik?

22. December 2006, 22:20:14

Emne: Re:

Gabriel Almeida: Yes

23. December 2006, 19:40:00

Emne: Re: BKR system

Mysterio619: Only a few players are "silenced" here. Even glob mod's keep on with Mr. Purple "way" (or politics). There are a few couples and friends keeping "Brainking System" (that's like in politic, precisly), and other ones are silenced or ignored.

This is all about Checkers! There are some "strategic pieces", and than the others. The first ones command the game...

23. December 2006, 19:43:17

Emne: Re: BKR system

Mysterio619: We review and try to delete any inappropriate posts. I did not see anyone making fun of anyone so I am not clear what your objection is. Whatever the issue it should be taken up in PM's to myself, co-mods or Globals. Not posted here.

23. December 2006, 19:50:00

Emne: Re: BKR system

sobek: This system is good for the kind of players we have here, sobek. Interested in a position, even if it means nothing.

Anyway, a bad rating system is unfair, but not so much as using programs, or asking friends to play their games.

Oh, and Stardust is right: who cares about BKR? In a "place" where people get happy for winning for timeout, it's everything already said! Once again, "BK system" supports that, there's no option to ask to our oponnent to re-instate the game...

(Maybe Fencer have been too much time in USA, and really catched their ideas...)

23. December 2006, 19:57:18

Emne: Re: BKR system

Mysterio619: Purple can speak english, he doesn't need a txtbook, so he hasn't feel offended with Martinez's words... ;)

23. December 2006, 20:01:32

Emne: Re: BKR system

Mysterio619: here here!!

23. December 2006, 20:04:06

Emne: Re: BKR system

Stardust: Oh no, my beautiful friend! You see very,very well! Better than a lot of us! ;)

23. December 2006, 20:06:20

Emne: Re: BKR system

Gabriel Almeida: Thank you but I was agreeing with Mysterio619! And it's easy to see when you've been on the inside lol

23. December 2006, 20:08:17

Emne: Re: BKR system

Mysterio619: I don't think so! Poor Ustica, he must feel offended for a lot of things people say here!

23. December 2006, 20:17:42

Emne: Re:

Stardust: Hum... depending of whoe they atack, maybe we should give them a little cake... eheheh.

Stardust, it's so easy to understand all this, isn't it? Misteryo is telling the truth, only "the cheatting business" is not allowed here.I also think Pedro Martinez offended Sobek (well, I don't speak very well english too, and if Martinez have told that to me, I would be offended). But what Idon't uderstand it's just... why don't anyone seems to understand those obvious things? My point goes to Fencer and global mod's: are they sleeping?

23. December 2006, 20:27:07

Emne: Re:

Katchaturian: So do I...

23. December 2006, 20:38:50

Emne: Re:

Bruno Jesus: You would invite me also,If I was a beautifull woman as Stardust... snif, snif... nobody want's to play with me... eheheh

23. December 2006, 20:40:50

sobek

To Bruno Jesus:
You have nice nick and I think, that You know more that you beyond type. Draughts/Checkers is mysterious game with complicated history and mistery. Cheaters never understand this game! Merry Xmas and Happy New Year and I hope, that we meet in really on-line server. Bye all.

23. December 2006, 20:47:02

Emne: And the poblem is...

I’m sure some players with good ratings don’t cheat. They are: Ferjo, Sobek, Undertaker, Faethon, Wismazstr, Fontal... Only Undertaker is rook. Well, do someone think Fencer would banish brain knight or brain rook? I don’t think so. These are the rules, and those who doesn't like them should go...

(I think that's what I'll do... anyway, I've seen this happenning in IYT, Chu thought the same way as Fencer is doing now. Nowadays, IYT is a "desert island". I hope BK history be different...)

23. December 2006, 21:02:46

Emne: Violations of Guidelines

A few people have now been hidden or banned. There has been plenty of warning. There won't be any more.

23. December 2006, 21:03:31

Emne: Re: Violations of Guidelines

Purple: who were?

23. December 2006, 21:08:57

Emne: Re: Violations of Guidelines

Gabriel Almeida: You can see what is missing. Now I am asking you to follow the guidelines as well as everyone else.

23. December 2006, 22:15:34

Papa Zoom

Emne: Re: My 2 cents

Stardust: I don't really pay that much attention to BKR but I am proud that I am rated what I am in both Chess and Backgammon games. There are games I don't do well in and my BKR reflects that. If I really stink at a game (like go) then I'm not inclined to play it.

I'm really just learning checkers strategies. I think I had a won game the other day but blew the ending. Losing is learning. ;) Oh well, that's what I tell my chess students.

As for cheating (I'm not trying to keep up this dialogue, just a final perspective maybe) there will always be situations where that happens. There are various ways to handle such things. But as a moderator, I can say that once accusations of any kind hit the public boards, there is no choice but to moderate. Even if there is truth in what is said, public boards are no place for those types of post. ;)

I do agree with you about a balance. They are after all, just games. But in finding a balance between playing for fun and playing for 'points, we always keep in mind that we run the race to win. If I lose, I lose. But I never like it. Some say that it's not if you win or lose but how you play. But I say playing to win (and in some cases playing NOT to lose such as in chess and going for a draw when your position is inferrior) is always what I seek. ;)

Now I'm rambling :) Merry Christmas!

23. December 2006, 22:22:28

rod03801