Bernice: If said person had one day of vacation left at midnight today, timed out on another game earlier today, by the time (s)he times out on another game today, (s)he has no days left (subtracted earlier today), but still gets the 24 hours extra (since you don't lose more than one day vacation each day).

how can someone with NO days left, weekend set for sat, sun - time out on a game and get another 24 hours?

Gabriel Almeida: A Rook who looks like an angel and has the wisdom of solomon - what more can you ask?

Gabriel Almeida: that sure is different LOL

Hi people! What kind of "rook" is this one? It seems like an angel, to me. But it's not right: everybody knows that I (ME, MYSELF) should be the angel... eheheheh

Fencer: Why don't we just set the clocks ahead 24 hours and save a whole freakin day? :)

There will be a Daylight Saving Time change tonight in Europe.
So if you think that some times are not correct here, this is the reason.

MadMonkey: From a psychics point of view it's normal. Just 'signs'.. but the tradition of seances goes on.

(V): I guess scary is the wrong word, BUT there are some very weird and puzzling things happening......

MadMonkey: Trouble is.. to me it's not scary. Worked in a hospital for a while and someone forgot to sign a room as holding a recent death not moved.

Plus.. having the and lived with a few ghosts being around makes it a bit....

MadMonkey: Surely it will be on your TV
I bet it won't. When the Amazing Race was in Prague, there was no word about it in Czech media either…

(V): I know you do not like it, BUT there is some scary stuff going on in that 'Old Town Hall' in Prague.

They are at different location in Prague for the next 4 nights...

The Most Haunted Live team will start their investigation of Prague at the historic and beautiful Old Town Hall. Sanctioned by King John of Luxembourg in the early 14th Century, the Old Town Hall, in Old Town Square became the epicentre of Prague and Bohemia.

It certainly looks a lovely and interesting place to visit....but don't think i will go out after dark there after watching this

I am watching the live web-cams on the site

MadMonkey: I'm going to have to be careful here... As the spirits have commentated on how the game should be played.

(V): They just said they are going to use a Chess Board tonight, not a OUIJA board lol

MadMonkey: Well they won't be contacting the team... they'll have to rely on remotes n' the gravel in their pockets

(V): I bet they contact Fencer

I hope your ghosts get the Most Haunted team Fencer, they have been disturbing the dead to long now. The G&G union (Ghosts and Ghouls) are planning a mass protest.

Ok.. I admit I do NOT like the program

MadMonkey: Here you are Most Haunted LIVE

I know this is not really about BrainKing, BUT it is to do with Fencer

Fencer, have you heard anything about one of our TV shows coming live from Prague tonight ?

Most Haunted is in Prague tonight going to all your haunted places apparently to try and contact the dead

Surely it will be on your TV as well as ours live.....

I think a certain Cardinal will be most distressed

I would check to see what days your opponents have their weekend days set to, that would explain it

alanback: yes I have had that same problem, but have found it is no good complaining.

beach: It appears that I have 4 games that went to 4 days 23 hours and 1 that went to 2 days 23 hours. All 3 day games.

beach: hmmm that is a worry

beach: Here's a simple, logical explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_warp_%28science_fiction%29

has anyone noticed that 3 days games which should now be going to 4 day 23 hrs are now only going to 3 days 23 hr

Gouwe gozer:
It is very strange I am still one hour fast on Brainking and our clocks do not go forward untill the last weekend in March as Abigail said. It is not stopping me playing my games though so I have no clue why it is like that.

IceQueen: Unlike the US, Europe hasn't changed its DST rules for quite some time (last time in 1996). DST starts 1AM UTC on the last Sunday of March, ending at 1AM UTC on the last Sunday of October. From 1996 to 2006, the US started DST one week later than Europe, ending in the same weekend. But several years of Bush policy had fuel prices rocketing, requiring a savings, hence an extension on both ends of DST in the US. In Europe, it's still winter - no DST here yet.

Gouwe gozer: It seems like we have summer time all year in Los Angeles! Warm weather. (But yes, we change our clocks this weekend).

Summertime starts in Europe last weekend in March untill the last weekend in October

IceQueen: spring forward,fall back,this saturday night

Mousetrap: Dont you guys have daylight saving, when do you set the clocks backwards or forwards... you heading into summer now??

Mousetrap: Your clock at home is 1 hour to slow

Mousetrap: not here :( sorry

Is anyone else,s clock on this site running one hour faster than what it should be or is it me?

AbigailII: You posted earlier about the problem of removing a person from ALL your tourneys. contact MadMonkey, I'm sure he can whip up a script to help you do that automatically.

rabbitoid: 6 & 7 March are weekends. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 are non-weekends (5 days), 13, 14 are weekends - it ought to time out at 15 March 5.00. Seems that if a game starts on a weekend, the player on the move gets 48 free hours, regardless of the time it starts (which explains the move before March 16, 01:40:57, which is 5d5h + 2*48h after the start time). I'd call that a bug.

BTW, if there would be a setting "no-weeked, vacation days-only", I would have created my tournaments with that setting.

rabbitoid: It will go away.
Herlock said it well - "give then one finger, soon they will ask for the whole hand". According to too many improvement requests, the vacation system became so complicated that not even me understood it all times. Simplicity is what we want to achieve.

Pedro Martínez: We should start to see his games timing out tomorrow. Currently Gammonator has some 20 games with the lady, all scheduled to time out within a week or so.

One game which is stretching things a bit is Behemoth Chess (angelstar vs. Gammonator) Started yesterday, angelstar to move. It says

start time 6. March 2010, 20:40:57

Time per move (?): 5 days 5 hours, standard vacation (16. March 2010, 01:40:57 is the last term before timeout for this move)

I've never quite understood how a 5-day game can have a timeout set 10 days ahead with only weekend days, and ok, an extra day to compensate potential timezones. Something is wrong there, but that has been around for a long time and will hopefully go away with the next version.

Gammonator: How are you stuck playing angelstar?! She doesn't use automatic vacation!

I only care about vacation days when I am stuck playing the same player,,given new vacation days for no rason,,causing me to have 50 or more games and not being able to make a move on them for 6 to 8 months. I like vacation days,,We all have to get away for awhile,,,But if u give them to Anglestar,,then give them freely to all players then. Make it right or fix the mistake. It should be that simple. As far as bugs go, There will always be people who takes the rules of a game to a different level and change things that should not be changed. I will not go as far as cehating,but changing the rules of play for oneself while the rest of us play the way the site is made is unfair,vut its a part of gaming. Even in the old days playing with my sisters,they changed the rules while playing,,,now days,,they crack the code and play

Pedro Martínez: ooops, I know what's my biggest "problem" ... I do not pay attention to all these details and features on this site ... this is why I better disappear from this board ...

Herlock Sholmes: Well, let's start with those listed in the BugTracker.

Gammonator: I personally don't care so much about vacation days, multinicks, new games being introduced, or whatnot, as much as I would like to see the games existing at BK work properly. There are major bugs in the games of Camelot, Cam, Russian Checkers, Backgammon (and variants), Espionage (and variants) and maybe others (these are just from the top of my head), and the removal of these bugs should be, in my opinion, of the highest priority.

How does one get a vacation around here?? I always thought and assumed it had to be paid for.She hasnt paid anything. Her time is up June 10th. She has used her years 35 days vacation already. You say there are workarounds...So work on this workaround. Tell us what this workaround is. I cant work around this. We pay you good money for a fun play site that one can enjoy and have fun and compete and enjoy a casual conversation thru games. But in this temporary workaround you have mentioned. You let people slide on everything here. people who know they are not going to pay for anymore for membership enter a 1000 tnys and play for free for a year. Others pay you 3 and 4 times a year to get more vacation days and you gladly accept the funds. Bud,,,its time to do something about this. Its a badly run operation and it just seems you have too many excuses.

AbigailII: you are probably right ... it was an idea, you know me, I am not "technically oriented" .. .

Herlock Sholmes: I proposed once and still believe in it: 30 days should be the absolute limit to play any game ...

I think that's unrealistic given the existence of timezones.

Herlock Sholmes: Hmmm. You are right that vacations are making problems, however we cannot remove the whole vacation system only because there are people who don't like it. It is always easier to play games/tournaments with no vacation time control because no global rule can be suitable for everyone, of course.

Anyway, the tournament system is to be rewritten for the new BrainKing version and I am sure that nobody would be able to misuse it any longer. Who would expect that 8 years ago?

My point is that BrainKing is a quite complex system with all major features connected one another, which means that a significant change of one of them would probably affect everything else and it is always a risky decision. That's why everything is being rewritten simultaneously and everything will be released at the same time.

Meanwhile, although I admit that there are users who make problems and continuously try to find out how to complicate BrainKing experience to other users, there is always a good workaround as a temporary solution. It does not mean that we want to leave it as it is forever.