Anyone else notice that when the game time is suspended, some opponents feel that game "play" is suspended. I almost never have an opponent time out on me. As soon as time is suspended, I usually get several that go into the negative (risking a timeout). I just find it curious.

Luke Skywalker: Probably a hidden bug in a virtual machine. It's been replaced by the newest one.

Fencer, for all us curious programmers out there, could you please enlighten us to what is/was causing the -12920 days time left

"BUT" if I ever catch him goofing off, I will be on him like stink.

EdTrice: Let me apologize for jesting about Filip, especially for all the hard work he does and for even implying that he was doing it on purpose. I know myself how frustrating it can be when your doing all that you can do and someone starts picking on you. It's tough, even if it's done in jest. Thanks for correcting me..

I have always supported fencer and the tremendous job he does and will continue to do so. I will from now on, not jest as to his intentions under and during difficult times.

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It seems that newly created ponds are running normally but existing ones have effectively been stalled. When I saw the message 'Game time is suspended' I assumed I was safe but in fact I have messed up once or twice. I think that message is a bit confusing.

Summertop: 15373 users, 746 of them are one-eyed, that makes exactly 30000 eyes...

EdTrice, ah...Only 15373 registered players. But still, that's a lot of eyes.

Filip is busy enough as it is, I am sure (Clay!) he does not do this to make himself feel appreciated. As a programmer, I can say with certainty that there are times when a seemingly insignificant change in one area has very unanticipated results in another area. About 80% of the time, the programmer "is certain" that what is being demonstrated "is impossible" based on the small coding change.

It takes patience and a great deal of detective work to uncover such bugs. In most cases, the actually item "being whacked" is just something that had an overlooked dependency.

As code, structure, and releationships get more complex, being able to handle every possible permutation that comes up becomes an impossible task.

I think we should spare the jest at Filip's expense and just let him resolve the issues at hand. It is hard enough to fix stuff like this without feeling 30,000 eyes are upon you.

rabbitoid: I'm down to one game with the negative 12920 days on it. I had gotten up to about ten games that were doing it.
I too can speculate about its cause. Perhaps the Cloak Mode implementation had something to do with it?
Are we lining up side bets on this?

ok thanks ;)

Jason: i think the ponds are back on already .. but each pond had some extra days added for this round to make sure it wouldnt time out last week .. i guess once those days are over the ponds will be working normal again

the ponds which started today and yesterday were working for me (at the first round)

mine still has nearly 4 days left , all are on one day limits

Jason: mine were back on yesterday

when will ponds be back on ?

Hrqls:You ever wonder if Fencer does that on purpose sometimes just to make us appreciate him?

pauloaguia: mine seem to be fixed as well ..

(but it was funny to see that when i had 2 games with one opponent one of the games always ended up ok .. while the other ended up with a negative time ;))

rabbitoid: Anyway seems to be fixed. My negative times have been coming back to normal on all the games I moved today... The only ones remaining are the ones that still haven't moved today and those that should have normally timed out.

Walter Montego: I bet on a date1 - date2 where date1 is sometimes uninitialized. Takers, anyone?

Fencer: I shall be patient then and await developements. It's such a strange thing to have happen. I can only imagine the grief it's caused and the difficulty in finding out what's causing it. It might something as simple as a colon where a semi-colon should be. : ;

I assume the back ups are ready. If it's going to take a real testing out before you're ready, let me and others know. I'll not make any moves for the day of the test and this will cause less problems for the games I have going if the backups have to be used. Especially darkness type games.

Walter Montego: I cannot risk and start the time until I am absolutely sure everything is fixed. This is the worst kind of a problem and it takes some time.

I'm wondering how the fix for the bug with the negative days in coming along. I'm glad it doen't time out the game being negative, but it also means that games that should legitimately time out are getting to slide by. Some of my games will say -12919 days left on them. When I or my opponent moves the time left counter will sometimes go to the proper amount like 2 days, 23 hours and other times will read the -12919 days left.

Nothingness: Ponds are not counted for the number of started games.

i dont have any room left for games. i was in pnonds that shouldve ended by nwo and now i cant fit into the ponds i had signed up for. will we be able to enter mroe games than our memberships allow?

Marfitalu: I think I saw something at features requests, want to try that one?

Marfitalu: what is the board?

Marfitalu: Oh I understand that. Just I think a privacy option is a differnt kind of option, why should pay members be able to see non-pay membbers, if non-pay members can't see pay members? Or do you think that's ok? I really like this site and tell friends about it, but if this is how privacy stuff is handled, I don't know...

<I don't understand why it isn't given to everyone on the gamesite????
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>that would make it even, don't you think?

if people wanted to hide what they was doing they could easily do it without the cloak thing , all you need to do is open more than one web browser and it will only count the last click ,not the other pages you are looking at ,
people should not feel pressured to take there cloak off by the few that are moaning . wether they like the cloak or not its upto the individual .

I agree with Walter, the new cloak thing is a bad idea because it only allows a chosen few their privacy and pawns have no choice whatssoever. Also, it makes the cloaked person look like they're trying to hide something.

will it get sent back to normal? or will a pond that say is on a 1 day time limit continue on with its current time limit o fsay 5 days. or will you immediately set it back to normal?

Anyway, I'll let the time suspended, at least for a day or two. Because the negative time left values can happen again.

Fencer: I got ponds!!!!! THANKS

Fencer: Liquid

I don't want to be a false prophet ... but if nothing goes wrong, the recent site problems have been fixed.

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Fencer: Very much looking forward to that; you have a crowd of junkies out in the World!

tonyh: When everything is fixed. Later today, hopefully.

Please, when may we have our Ponds back?

Tuesday: I guess you figured it out..no pay pal is another option. I never used MB..pay pal was just real easy for me.

Tuesday: I sent money to Eriisa through pay pal once. She got the money right away!
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