Do unrated games count towards your game total when getting an established bkr?

nope. which is why i suggested it on feature requests board and seemed like ignored

is there any way you can tell on someones profile if they have auto-vacation enabled?

with this new silly auto vcacation feature elongating games due to the inconsiderate gits who are abusing the sodding thing

for god sake, move for so we can actually enjoy the fricking games

what pants? ;oÞ

BTW Bwild, looks like you not gonna get your answer from LJ tonight LOL

heheeee!!..neat!

how many lips are best?


1.fourlips
2.threelips
3.Tulips

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MAO

4

like?
do you like yer pets..
1..yes
2..no
3..well cooked
4..other
;o)

Yes,let's have a poll...

I would like to see a vote on that LMAO

Fun polls are fun...;o))

Polls - I would love to see the Polls option used a lot more, even if it was for "fun" polls.

For example if Fencer could somehow put a user in charge of the Polls, i would take that job - try to put up a new "fun" poll a week, and also put up site polls when needed.

On a (maybe not so) unrelated subject:

What's the point of the polls link on the menu? Those poll results are there ever since I became a member (and I can only imagine how much more time before that). Maybe it should be hidden when there are no active polls (meaning one month after the last poll has closed, so people can still see the results for a while)?

I agree (I didn't 2 hours ago, but now that foul play has come to the table, I changed my mind). I also understand some other sites are changing their mind on this matter...

So, Fencer, how are the new ratings gonna be recalculated? We could be discussing this all night (or day) but you're still the only one who has the knife and the cheese in the hand (hope that doesn't get lost in translation)...

I agree bwild. Also I agree that ratings be calculated by the rating when the game starts.

maybe I'm wrong,wont be the first time....did you return the prize money you took for your Summerday account,LongJohn?...if so...I apologize,and wont bring it up again.

cheating people is childish.

let it go bwild
bringing that up is very childish

yes tedious...its terrible to drag up old memories of cheating good hearted members into paying for multi nic memberships...

I agree BBW 100%
You should know what you are getting into at the start of the game and it should be set then

Wouldnt the programming possibly be easier for that too? Set up a table that is created at the start of the game

it's hard to foget the past sometimes. When you do crappy things to others, don't always expect everyone to forgive and forget. :-(

BUT - lets get back to the idea:

Should ratings be calculated by the rating when the game starts, or the game is over?

My vote: With the rating when the game started.

Sure, I'm not debating the point. I'm just asking that its phrased nicely so as to avoid arguments.

he has a point the Harls.
Fact is, some members jump on every post a few other members make and it is becoming very tedious indeed

Can we keep this nice please :o)

But now Brainking has a new generation of bad boys which gives meaning to the empty lives of the bullies who love to have someone to use to get the attention off of themselves. LOL

... and see, if the recalculations was done with the rating when the game started (not ended), then it would be like erasing that "bad" part of BrainKing hitory. :-)

..of which you knew nothing. AS IF

The KM did that to boost their members ratings because the bigboss wanted it's fellowship to hold the top spots in checkers and have the highest average rating of any fellowship.

the KM did it to massage your ego.

so you did it and was aware it happened?

Hey the KM only did that to predators, programmers and pedophiles. And only then when we saw one of those going in for the kill.

Yea, it could go both ways - but my thinking is if I start a game with someone rated at 1700, I should get scored with a win or lose with that same person with the 1700 rated (no matter if it's now 1000, or 2200)

I also think back to the KM which used the current system to hurt other players - that is they would start a game with someone rated pretty high, they would purposly get that rating as low as possible, so when they win their game against a player, their rating will drop a lot. (example - both me & opponent are rated 2000 - they would hurry drop the other players rating to lets say 1000, then when they win - it hurt my rating a lot more then when it was at 2000)

On Chessmaniacs.com... The rating system is changed... It used to be a sbwildman said...below... But it now sets at what rating you started the game with....

that could go both ways,BBW..lets say your at 1700 and your opponent is unrated.the game takes 2 monthes to finish,your still at 1700 and your opponent is at 2000,and you lose.
*edited for spelling*

Here is how I understand the upcomming BKR recalculations & graphs.

First is to go back to game #1, and go through all the game for all the players and recalculate the BKR for each and every game. So if at any time your BKR was messed up because of time outs, or other miscalculations - this should fix them.

How I understand the graph - it is more of a statistics type of thing, something like what LittleGolem.net has - if you seen their ratings. So if you go and look at my graph for Backgammon, you might see me start at 1300, maybe grow to around 1800 in Dec 2003, maybe a big drop back down to 1400 in a few month, etc..., etc... So you will also be able to hopefully quickly see what your "high" rating was in your past for a certain game, and "low" rating was.

Again, I have not seen it - so this is just how I understand this current project.

WHICH brings me to a question I asked awhile back, but never got an answer.

Why are ratings calculated with the rating at the time the game ends, and not the ratings when the game was first started?

before on-line turn based sites, ratings were almost always the same when a person started and completed a game, so there was never a question.

But with turn based sites, the ratings can be drasticly different from when you start a game and end a game. (I can not tell you how many Froglet games I have started with player rated 1300+, and by the time it ends - maybe they resigned many many games - my rating is calculated with their new 400 BKR, which I feel if really unfair.

Maybe I'm not thinking correctly, but wouldn't it be beter if ratings were calculated with the ratings that each player started with, rather then end it?

So for example, lets say I have a rating of 2000, and my opponent has a rating of 1000. We play a game, by the time the game is over, both our ratings are completly different.

I believe the ratings should be calculated with the original 2000, and 1000 ratings - and then add/subtract the results onto our current ratings.

how will the bkr recalcuations and graph make things better? I guess I'm not clear on that.

I live in Butler, Missouri... 55 miles south of Kansa city... Pick a game and send me an invite...
I always enjoy playing board games...

What game would you like to play, Daniel? :-)

I worked as a housekeeper at a local hospital... Most jobs I have had, I used to make one mistake and was the fall guy for getting yelled out...
I also Have depression... I rarely go anywhere anymore for the fact that I might get yelled out.. It is very Stressfull for me... I play games on different sites... it helps relax and enjoy playing with nice people like you...
Thank you...

Hi Daniel, I am sorry you lost your job.. I know how that feels like.. Not fun! What kind of work did you had? What kind of job are you looking for? I really hope it will work out for you.. and keep you in my thoughts and prayers,

~*Radiant 36:9*~

Congratulations Kevin good luck on the tournament and i will watch your games wishing you the best.Your friend Mike :o)

I want say something...
I when I was working at a job... I played on only 1 site... I kindly help people...
Since I found this site... I ow play on this everyday... But I am now unemployed...
I am sorry to cause trouble... I know there are limits... Thank you to fencer for not making that just 10 games... Some day I will get a higher membership and be a part of this community...

Daniel Snyder, Misssouri, United States of America...

What is a History generator? What kind of graphs are you going to be using? For each game or for all games... Just trying to get a better understanding of this site...

Okay, the BKR graph and history generator is done and tested. Global BKR recalculation and graphs will be launched next week. And graphs will be accessible for paying members only.

♫♪♫ I've been working on the railroad.... ♫♪♫

Good luck for the games, Kevin!