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21. February 2010, 18:36:44
Fencer 
Subject: Re: mega slow
Snoopy: Yes, something is somewhere overloaded. I will investigate it soon. Such things happen, from time to time.

21. February 2010, 18:35:47
Snoopy 
Subject: Re: mega slow
coan.net: whatever the problem was i just got my speed back YEAHHHHHH

21. February 2010, 18:24:45
coan.net 
Subject: Re: mega slow
Snoopy: Same here - I click to make a move, go to another tab with another game site - make almost 8 turns before I seen the BrainKing tab load to go back to make my next move.

21. February 2010, 18:21:41
pedestrian 
yes, BrainKing is slooooooooooow today... has been slow on an off the last few days.

21. February 2010, 18:18:22
Snoopy 
Subject: mega slow
taken me nearly 5 mins to play 2 games anyone else having problems

21. February 2010, 06:43:25
Universal Eyes 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
pedestrian:(*)The player who finishes at least 4 rated games of one kind (everybody who defines a new game can specify whether the game will be "rated" - the result will be calculated for BKR - or not), earns "provisional BKR" displayed by italic font (e.g. 1870). After finishing 25 rated games of one kind the provisional BKR changes to "established BKR" and is displayed by normal font (e.g. 1853). If you complete more games, your BKR is more accurate because is based on more results.

19. February 2010, 19:55:35
Snoopy 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
Resher: thanks i dont know why i didnt think of looking at the graph

19. February 2010, 19:50:24
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
hagaren: If it was 10 moves, nobody would get a rating in Cheversi, for example.

19. February 2010, 19:49:15
Resher 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
pedestrian: If you look at your BKR graph for any game, it shows you how many counted games you've played.

snoopy: Sorry I misunderstood you - I didn't read your post carefully enough

19. February 2010, 19:02:22
hagaren 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
pedestrian: okay, sorry, then I've made a mistake ;-) I thought it was 10 moves.

19. February 2010, 19:01:17
pedestrian 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
hagaren: To be counted as one of those 25 games, a game has to be rated. That means it must last at least 2 moves (not 10). If you play a game that only lasts 1 move, it is still counted under 'My profile'-> 'finished games', so unless you keep your own score of those unrated games, you won't know for sure when you'll reach 25.

19. February 2010, 18:56:42
Snoopy 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
hagaren: thanks good to know that

19. February 2010, 18:52:42
hagaren 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
Snoopy: No, it will not be counted.. For being counted a game must have at least 10 moves ;-) When someone resigns a game after those 10 moves, it will count as number 24.

19. February 2010, 18:50:06
Snoopy 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
Resher: ah i think what i meant to say was
if i had say played 23 of the 25 games to get a BKR and someone resigned a game
would that game be counted has number 24 or not

19. February 2010, 17:25:30
Snoopy 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
Resher: thanks

19. February 2010, 17:12:58
Resher 
Subject: Re: i know ive properly
Snoopy: No it won't affect it - see http://brainking.com/en/FAQ?ht=22

19. February 2010, 16:45:08
Snoopy 
Subject: i know ive properly
asked this before but brain isn't working..lol

if someone resigns a game on first move
does it still count towards getting a BKR ?

19. February 2010, 06:35:07
nicmulti_68 
Well. I never. lol

19. February 2010, 05:27:36
Bwild 
36 new members so far today....over half havent logged in,most will never play a game,some go straight to the poker tables.
watch the player list just a couple times a week.
theres no doubt in my mind that the majority of these new members are add ons to existing accts.
since pawns are only allowed 20 games...I can see this as a way to give someone more games,but......theres always those that create these add on accts for ulterior motives, that many of us that have been here awhile know.
then you have these globs that dont care or even read the stuff they're prompted into moderating,to compound issues.
just my 2 cents.

19. February 2010, 03:23:02
Vikings 
Since this thread is certain to lead to a place that the Main Moderator has asked that it not go, it will be removed.

I suggest that the 2 interested parties carry on their conversation in p.m.'s if they so wish

18. February 2010, 23:54:16
ScotFree 
Subject: Re:
Bwild: thank you for your helpful direction.

16. February 2010, 03:01:12
ScotFree 
Hi all. Having wandered about the site and seen how everything is moderated here, I'd like to know why the poker tables are not. I was put off playing by the language used there.

14. February 2010, 20:27:30
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Stopped
rod03801: thanks rod!

14. February 2010, 20:04:43
hagaren 
Subject: Re:
alilsassy: Same to you!

14. February 2010, 20:03:55
rod03801 
Subject: Stopped
As the main mod had requested a certain topic stop, and it didn't, all posts from that point that continued, have been deleted. If it continues any further, the offending people will be banned from posting to this board. Thank you.

14. February 2010, 18:52:16
alilsassy 
Happy Valentine's Day 

13. February 2010, 13:53:23
nicmulti_68 
Subject: Re: multi nicks
Hrqls: Good job! :))

13. February 2010, 13:00:59
Hrqls 
Subject: multi nicks
thats the last post about named multi nicks on this board .. further posts about multi nicks with names in it will be deleted

posts like this can easily lead to a hunt for the named persons even when they might not be a multi nick .... this board is not for starting a lynch party

when you think someone is using multiple accounts ... report them to the management ...

12. February 2010, 17:41:08
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re:
MadMonkey:
  Too bad there's no counter to see how many times they enter.  ;)

12. February 2010, 17:34:50
MadMonkey 
Subject: Re:
Artful Dodger: I have given 2 Boards the name . now (as in 'dot') lol and set the read & write access level to Kings only.
So Fencer & Liquid can go have fun if they wish, but i will need to approve there posts

12. February 2010, 17:32:02
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re:pillar of the"community
Tuesday:Well that couldn't be me.  Most days I qualify for village idiot.

12. February 2010, 17:28:54
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: multinic 68
Bernice:I have some theories.  Very strange coincidences.

12. February 2010, 17:27:46
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re:
MadMonkey:  I changed the name of mine to .  And then that's all that showed  ;)  I think I set it to no access or whatever that setting is.  You could just change the name to "This board isn't really here." 

12. February 2010, 17:07:13
Snoopy 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Snoopy (12. February 2010, 17:08:49)
Tuesday: IMO muti nicks have been going on since the very early days of this site its nothing new
but surely bickering about it on the main BK board should not be allowed
its surely not giving a good impression to any new comers to the site
i find it very off putting

12. February 2010, 08:40:01
nicmulti_68 
Subject: Re:
Bernice: Caught on to what? :))

12. February 2010, 07:52:37
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
wetware: "Dice games require less thinking?"

you are right for some dice games. most dice games have limited move options though, far less options than chess .. its also tougher to think ahead and build a plan with dice games .. at least thats beyond my capabilities .. i can 'feel' a few moves ahead with a probability that it might happen with dice games, but with a chess type (or pente or espionage) i can plan a bit more ahead which takes time

so dice games dont require less thinking .. but they certainly require less time per move (for me)

12. February 2010, 02:19:04
wetware 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
SL-Mark
"Being beaten in a dice game, well it was simply that the die favoured the other player! i.e. luck."
"Beaten in a game of skill, however, then the loser can only critique themselves."

Those observations are a good start.

Being beaten in a dice game, one can all too easily conclude that the loss was purely a matter of bad luck, and that there was nothing in one's own play that deserved criticism.
Not all dice games are created equal.
Have you ever noticed that the frequency of claims of "unfair dice" tends to be inversely proportional to players' strength?

"Dice games require less thinking?"
Who would say such a thing?  On the contrary (at least in some dice games), in addition to strategic considerations, one must also calculate various probabilities.

12. February 2010, 00:55:34
Bernice 
I would have thought that the powers that be (we all know how clever they are) would have caught onto this one....
nicmulti_68 (Nic)

11. February 2010, 17:42:19
coan.net 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
Bwild: No, I cam up with with Frog Finder - can find some of the details & "history" of the game here: http://www.coan.net/sweeper.html

11. February 2010, 17:28:46
MadMonkey 
Subject: Re:
Snoopy & coan.net : Thanks, thought i was going mad

I will do something like that, but i think being able to delete a Board would be better

11. February 2010, 17:22:25
coan.net 
Subject: Re:
MadMonkey: I haven't done it (or tested it) - but believe the BIG BOSS can change the posting "Mode" or privledge level of someone to post on the board and make it almost impossible for anyone to post on that board.

Change the board name to "." so it's hard to see also.

... of course that is also one of the big things Fencer has talked about changing for the new 3.0 Brainking it sounds like...

11. February 2010, 15:19:54
Snoopy 
Subject: Re:
MadMonkey: not that i know off you can always put the board to something that is very hard to click on which i did

11. February 2010, 15:17:48
MadMonkey 
Am i missing something

You can delete a Fellowship should you wish to (well Big Boss's can), but is there away to delete a Discussion Board from a Fellowship ?

11. February 2010, 11:59:01
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
AbigailII: i mean that i can join more dice games .. because it will take me less time to make my moves ...

suppose i joined 100 dice games and its my turn in all those games .. then it takes me a lot less time to make all my moves before i timeout compared to 100 chess games

so only considering the spare time i have i can easier join 100 dice games than 100 chess games

11. February 2010, 10:45:17
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
Hrqls: dice games require less thinking .. therefore its easier to make a quick move in those games and more of those games can be played at once

If your opponent is online, yes. But I think most of the "duration" of a game, the game doesn't move forward because the player whose move it is isn't online, or hasn't selected the game yet. Many games last weeks or months - I doubt most of that time one of the player is actively studying the position. Even if both players spend 24 hours in total actively contemplating their next move, that's less than 10% total time if the game lasts a month.

11. February 2010, 10:16:10
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
Herlock Sholmes: Perhaps this is to do with psyche of the average BK player, all kings I’m sure, but less brain :)

Being beaten in a dice game, well it was simply that the die favoured the other player! i.e. luck.

Beaten in a game of skill, however, then the loser can only critique themselves.

11. February 2010, 09:43:35
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
Herlock Sholmes: dice games require less thinking .. therefore its easier to make a quick move in those games and more of those games can be played at once

personally i always try to judge my time before i join a chess or pente type of game because it can take quite some time to make a move .. but i will almost always joing a dice game

(not at the moment though ... busy time coming up so i have to restrain myself a bit :))

11. February 2010, 06:00:05
Bwild 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
coan.net: I thought someone else came up with frog finder???

11. February 2010, 04:16:32
coan.net 
Subject: Re: Games statistics
Herlock Sholmes: Another thing that needs to be looked at is the length of the game - that is Ludo is the #1 game... but at the same time, it takes a long time to complete a game..... I don't feel like doing all the math, but would guess taking in how long a game last would still leave Ludo near the top.

then a game like Hyper Backgammon is shorter, so thinking of that might push that game up some more.

Then #26 game Logik is pretty short (what, max of 8 moves each?) - so if game length is considered, that game might move up some.

.... not that I have much of a point, and the basics of what you said is still true - and I do use the running games as a "general" guideline of how popular a game is... but it can easily be manipulated by a team tournament, or popular (prize) tournament creating a lot of games... and if it's a long game it will push it up that list... and if it's a short game, it will push it up the list but quickly come right back down.

Again... no point... just thought I would add.

11. February 2010, 02:11:49
Herlock Sholmes 
Subject: Games statistics

it's interesting to look at running games statistics ... out of first 20 games mostly played, there are 15 games that uses dice ... it's 75 percent, if you will, taken by backgammon and its clones plus all the dice poker games and the absolute king Ludo ... remaining 5 are chess (traditional favorite) plus 2 battleboats version and two games created by the users of this site: Frog Finder by coan.net (aka Big Bad Wolf) and Knight Fight by me, Andy. And this situation stays pretty much the same unchanged. Why ? What constitutes the most desirable game to play ... Look at Ludo ... it's a game with a very limited level of needed skills ... so what makes it so exciting ? UNKNOWN ... waiting for the big roll, this is what makes it a great game ... the same basically applies to all backgammon clones and poker games ... now, how about Frog Finder and Battleboats ? Again UNKNOWN ... but this time unknown placement of basic elements that need to be discovered ... Knight Fight has different qualities ... everything is known and what makes it interesting is the fact that this game is a racing-running game in nature, combined with known chess knight problem ... so we are back to Ludo running quality, but not "around the pond", but instead thru carefuly planned jumps across the chess board ... I would appreciate your comments and thoughts.


Andy.


 


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