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23. December 2009, 04:25:10
Nothingness 
i suggest that anyone who wants to join the espionage Freaks fellowship should do so. this way we can join the team tourney.

21. December 2009, 04:33:01
Nothingness 
yes resher is a beginner almost all of his games are time outs. I don't think he has any "WON" games. i am mentoring him at the moment.

20. December 2009, 17:01:45
Nothingness 
nope nothing has been posted on the espionage board about the tourney since the 2nd of December.

19. December 2009, 19:56:20
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
it was last posted 2 weeks ago.

19. December 2009, 09:27:14
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
repost the tourney its so far down the page it may not be seen..

14. December 2009, 12:50:34
Nothingness 
im currently helping 4 or 5 players, only one of which has any interest in help.

14. December 2009, 02:46:15
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: rookie tourney
happy hermit: Yes i agree with you here. But 5 games is still alot but i guess i can live with it.

14. December 2009, 02:19:34
Nothingness 
Subject: rookie tourney
Just an observation. does anyone else think that playing 5 games at the same time is a bit much for a beginners tourney? This may be a bit much for any newbie. I thought that we were going to do a single elimination or a 3 person section. We don't want to discourage anyone so early.

7. December 2009, 04:15:10
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: 3 vs Sab (Spy) in Open
happy hermit: actually here the names of the pieces are totally different then they are on IYT. i dont even know what there called here.

7. December 2009, 03:55:04
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: 3 vs Sab (Spy) in Open
happy hermit: the sab is not the spy the recon is the spy... the original discussion was spy vs 2

5. December 2009, 21:55:06
Nothingness 
I placed 3 games of fast espionage for players between 100 and 1500 but it says anyone can enter for some reason still.

5. December 2009, 21:52:00
Nothingness 
Subject: newbie invitations
right now i'm playing a non rated game with a player as a teaching tool. i am unable to get the BK rating thing to work when i post a game. I try to set parameters but it never works and anyone joins. even if i set the rating to no one over 1500 can challenge me, it don't work.

5. December 2009, 08:38:08
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
we have lots asking but no one joining...

26. November 2009, 00:34:51
Nothingness 
Subject: Mentoring
will there be a list of trainers... that would be nice to list the trainers and assign a mentor to each newbie that registers. So I think that all the current SL members should Mentor a newbie. In my new job I have a Mentor who helps me through any problems that may occur or questions that i may have. That is a great idea Mark.

23. November 2009, 00:58:51
Nothingness 
who win the original rookie tourney?

22. November 2009, 23:15:01
Nothingness 
a 4 player variant i think would be great... I think we should gather some ideas and submit it to powers that be!

22. November 2009, 17:20:55
Nothingness 
Subject: polls
How often will we use a poll? We obviously cannot use a poll every time we cannot decide on choosing a game type. This process will become very narrow minded and become extremely Boring after awhile. We cannot be a league of only two variants. Regardless of our feelings of certain variants. If we expect to improve our games we must become strong in all aspects of our game. It sis obvious that 90% of us prefer the open ( non-volcano) variants, but we cannot neglect the volcano versions either. the other option is asking for a new variant. Which I feel that could be implemented very quickly on this site. A variant that we all can agree upon.

14. November 2009, 17:11:45
Nothingness 
Subject: Beginners tourney
Yes excellent idea! The espionage.sabotage games came in a specific order on IYT. It grew with us and it should grow here the same way. The only variant that should not be touched is the plain original version due to time constraints. Other than that the small espionage is a much faster version that the IYT version due to random volcanoes. You only become a great player by making your weaknesses your strength.

14. November 2009, 01:16:00
Nothingness 
Subject: VERY important
if we expect to recruit new blood here I suggest that we have a variety of game types i know that some of us only like to play certain variations but if we want to recruit new player we will have to suck it up and play all versions to at least get them hooked.

10. November 2009, 01:39:23
Nothingness 
Subject: rules...
the rules here are in favor of an aggressive player since both pieces are not removed when the same ranks are in battle.

3. November 2009, 23:42:14
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: Tourny for those with brains
SL-Mark: Sorry to hear that Mark but you sure play like you have brains!

30. October 2009, 21:18:34
Nothingness 
Subject: jonaron and quietman
no not the same person. Jonaron AKA ( Lightningbolt) his english is not as good as Quietmans. Jonaron is from canada and i think is French Canadian.

28. October 2009, 22:54:10
Nothingness 
Subject: work
I just got a new job this week and my time moving will be slowed ten fold! So please bear with me in this transitional period. Thanks.

26. October 2009, 14:40:21
Nothingness 
Subject: saved setups
No i never use saved setups. What i mean is that if for example i have my base in the right corner of a game that I'm losing badly. instead of just resigning immediately I'll wait or slow down until other games in that section are close to ending. so that an opponent that im in a closer game with doesn't logically deduce where i may have set my base in that game in comparison to the game i just lost!

I too also use set ups when I face specific players. A taylor made Setup for just that game and opponent. In those cases i save them setups. and ill name them after that opponent.

26. October 2009, 04:49:39
Nothingness 
Subject: slowing down..
Do not forget that slowing down while losing has its strategic needs as to not reveal your set ups to the rest of the players in your bracket. So that they can get a feel for your set ups in that particular tourney.

1. October 2009, 16:59:27
Nothingness 
Subject: brains
perhaps we can start playing for brains. if we play for a small amount this can help buy memberships for some of our pawn players.

31. August 2009, 20:30:06
Nothingness 
Subject: numbers...
As of this post we have 26 players. right now it seems as if there will be around 6 sections of 4+ players which is very nice. unless we get 4 more players (30).

31. August 2009, 20:11:20
Nothingness 
Tenuki and ouna you may be able to convince!

29. August 2009, 14:40:18
Nothingness 
ok... umm this is going to be one of the most competitive tournaments of all time! I'm really pumped but how does an unseeded player with 1 game played get a #1 seed hmmm! Whats the difference i'm psyched to play!

27. August 2009, 11:33:10
Nothingness 
id love nuno to get in!

26. August 2009, 20:56:31
Nothingness 
Subject: upcoming tourney!
also id advise posting this up coming tourney on the tourney message board! WE can certainly get a few more players if it up there as well!

26. August 2009, 20:49:56
Nothingness 
we need to get Tony into this upcoming tourney! Don't you think!?

25. August 2009, 15:16:32
Nothingness 
were going to be in a lot of games in this one from what i can see. we will have to play 4players at once. Each section is very large! i prefer single elimination.

25. August 2009, 07:10:14
Nothingness 
Subject: jonaron
i contacted him to see if he wants in. we will have to wait for a reply.

16. August 2009, 18:15:49
Nothingness 
the tourney you posted will start as soon as it hits 5 players. due to the minimum standard you set. you should set the limit higher!

14. August 2009, 22:07:59
Nothingness 
you have to be careful that you don't allow it to start once it reaches your minimum standard. put a minimum like 16 people.

3. August 2009, 22:28:57
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: free rating points
happy hermit: Tenuki is legit he plays slowly or should i say carefully! He is not to underestimated. Be mindful my young apprentice!

3. August 2009, 21:13:24
Nothingness 
i heard everyone started with a 1500 rating?

2. August 2009, 22:39:17
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: rating system
Dark Prince: yes this is correct. the rating system is great its the way it is implemented that is abused.

2. August 2009, 20:35:45
Nothingness 
here is where the flaw is. lets say i get lucky and get a 2500 rating to start, playing against average players. at this point there is no motivation to playing high ranked players ever again! and thus i will only play new players or low ranked players that have very little chance of winning. also in chess you are placed in sections with other similarly ranked players where you cannot avoid them. and eventually you will lose. these are open games not tourneys. in tourney play the rankings work perfectly but when you can pick and choose your opps they fail. ive been trying to face players and usually they turn down the game invitation in fear of losing ranking points.

1. August 2009, 21:52:18
Nothingness 
he was in the very early years. I'm talking when IYT first started and they only had 1 version of sabotage.

1. August 2009, 15:28:44
Nothingness 
if you did not know Nuno was one of the ORIGINAL players at IYT. he predated myself and tony wilder! He was the Cy Young or Ty Cobb of sabotage. ( to use a baseball analogy or Jose Raul Capablanca to use a chess anaolgy!

31. July 2009, 22:05:30
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
im in as well.. more than likely!

24. July 2009, 16:20:07
Nothingness 
Subject: time limit.
i see it all the time..unfortunately. for me 3-5 days between moves is much to long. just look at the black rook prize tourney i started it will be running for 2 years in december! this is with a 5 day time limit.

23. July 2009, 18:33:52
Nothingness 
generally we used to accommodate people by changing the time limit mid way through the tourney we would up it from 3 days to 7 days but when they returned we would change the time frame back to 3 days.

23. July 2009, 18:22:44
Nothingness 
Subject: vacation
here is the dangerous part with vacations. many members get a lot of vacation time and set it on auto vacation they can literally be away from the game for 2 -3 weeks without a move and not time out!

21. July 2009, 23:11:47
Nothingness 
Subject: time controls and other issues
this is essentially the main page for any espionage discussion. the page i created is just a place where this hardcore people i wold go. but this best for everyone. as for time controls we will need to tweak the time controls to be advantageous to everyone. b/c as of now people move much to slow for most of us former iyt members. Fencer is also much more open to suggestions and opinions than iyt ever was. he also listens to game creation suggestions and follows through with them. I became a life time member b/c of his stand up personality! Perhaps we can find a way of getting people out of the failed tournies.

15. July 2009, 19:50:17
Nothingness 
creeping doom was what he used when he came back to iyt after a bit of time away!

15. July 2009, 17:03:39
Nothingness 
wait aint that tony wilder?

17. June 2009, 23:03:34
Nothingness 
generally i don't resign unless it is hopeless. Its is doubtful that i will ever lose a game where a person uses a front line base. Good players will expose this EVERYTIME!

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