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Bwild: Agreed. The Libs are the ones who are obsessed with the color of people's skin. They act like "people of color" are less capable than white people and can't handle being treated THE SAME. The people that say that requiring ID to vote is a racist requirement are absolutely ridiculous.
Brian1971: Couldn't agree more. So many "Never Trump" people. I'm absolutely "Never Hillary". Trump wasn't my personal first choice, but he will get my vote. Any of the 17 people who started the process, would be a better president than Hillary or Bernie.
Papa Zoom: ALL for the Tea Party. I hope one of our big Conservatives makes it through the primaries. Not someone milquetoast like McCain or Romney. LOVE Rand Paul, or Rubio or Cruz. Defnitely NOT Christie
Papa Zoom: Hannity played part of that on his radio show today. SO good. The part I heard was guessing who said certain quotes, and they were all Obama saying stuff when he was a Senator, about a president overstepping his constitutional "powers", and they are all things he has now done. When I have time, I will see if there was more that I didn't hear in the clip. What a hypocrite. Worst president ever. I can't wait until he is gone.
Artful Dodger: So many don't seem to get that. I'm sick of all these talking points. The real intent was to be able to stand up to tyranny. If we keep having wannabe dictators, who have NO regard for our constitution, like Obama, we may NEED to be able to stand up against them. And I'll never understand why they don't get that criminals DONT care which guns are against the law. The only people they are trying to punish are the law abiding people who have THE RIGHT to have what they want. And some don't seem to get that we aren't under their reign still, thank goodness. They are WELCOME to their silly laws
The Col: Yup. I'd agree that's part of what makes it hardest. The triggers. My favorite was after eating. I'm still amazed I don't smoke anymore. I TRULY loved it.
Driving was hard too. I chain smoked when driving. On "regular trips" I always knew right where I would have to be passing for the best time to light the last one, so that I'd be done with it right when arriving. LOL
The Col: I smoked longer than I should have. LOL. Started on a bet. (I thought people "addicted" to cigarettes were making it up)
And just because you smoke twice as much, it really doesn't give you a lot of grounds to discount the hard time anyone who smoked less had in quitting.
I can promise you I did not have an easy time. And if I hadn't had the month long hospital stay, I probably would have failed this time too. (Or 3 years later I'd still be buying that damn patch)
I enjoyed the patch though! Gave me VERY vivid amazing dreams! (Some people hate that part, but I LOVED it)
I mostly decided to quit the last time, because the cost had gone up again, and I was sick of spending all that money on something so awful. I miss it. I enjoy the smell. I'm not bothered being around smokers. (I enjoy the smell of the smoke and the cig.. A dirty ashtray or old smashed out butts gross me out though)
And I was sick of being banished outdoors in the Winter to puff. LOL
Subject: Re: to what extent do we have free will and in what cases do we not ( if any)?
Iamon lyme: No doctor needed for the patches now. (When they first came out, years ago, you did need a prescription) I don't recommend the cheaper "no name" ones. Maybe it was all in my head, but they didn't seem to work as well. I recommend the NicoDerm ones They have 3 sizes. Start at the big and work down. They have a recommended amount of time for each size, but I found I needed to follow MY OWN path, and decide when I was ready for the next size down. (Because I failed when following THEIR plan, and dropped sizes quicker than was appropriate for ME)
They have finally gone down in price. I think 3 years ago, I found I was spending about half on the patches than I was on cigs. I was smoking 1 pack per day.
Iamon lyme: Have you tried the 3 step program on one brand of Nicotine patches? It can be very good. First it helps stop that habit of picking one up, getting a large amount of nicotine in the first stage. Then gradually you lower the amount you are getting.
They helped me finally quit. Of course it took major surgery (unrelated, of course) and almost a full month in the hospital to get over that final hurdle. I was on the smallest patch, and was not going to stop using it until I was positive I would be successful. However, being in the hospital and having NO choice, helped me to take off that final one. I haven't had a cigarette now since July 2009. I had tried many many many times before that and failed. (Even WITH the patch - it was that final small patch that I couldn't let go of, so when I stopped, I'd start back up to smoking)
I still miss it though lol. I just don't NEED it. I often think I'd like to have JUST ONE - but after being unsuccessful too many times, I don't dare to ruin it.
JerNYC: I agree about Christie. My first thought with how he handled everything after Sandy was that it was with the intention of setting up 2016. I kind of like him. There's a few that sort of interest me for 4 years from now. Rubio is one. I still also like Ryan.
(V): Get with reality. It doesn't make it harder. Most people have ID anyway. ID's ar necessary for so many other things already. And I'll NEVER understand why it isn't logical that it should be guaranteed that only people who legally can vote, do vote. Nothing will EVER explain why that isn't logical. NOTHING. Maybe OVER THERE people don't need ID's. But over, here, yes. This is not OVER THERE. *cough*
Plus, most of those unregistered voters probably already have ID's. Sadly, many people just don't get involved because they don't think their vote matters. I went like that many years. (and have had an ID since 16 like MOST people)
Artful Dodger: I did take the time to watch that whole thing. Very moving. And I think it cleared up my ambiguity towards abortion. (Never something I supported, but at the same time I thought there might be times when it is ok for certain people. Never a choice I would make, but didn't feel I could make the moral decision for someone else) I would say that I would absolutely support getting rid of roe v wade.
However, I would NOT have watched the whole thing if about 7 minutes of the last 10 minutes had been at the beginning. (The whole heaven/hell bible "stuff" that I find abhorrent, personally) Glad it was at the end, because I would turned it off right away because that stuff annoys me.
Just me, and don't bother trying to say I'm wrong in my non bible stance, because it won't matter. LOL.
But thank you for posting that. Most of it was very thought provoking.
Artful Dodger: I'm so excited for 2 weeks from tonight! It could be an edge of the seat night. However, if momentum keeps up, it could be less stressful than it would have seemed a month ago.
I fear 4 more years of the jerk. I personally don't even think its just incompetence. I don't even think he has our best interests in mind. But I guess that's a bit controversial. I honestly feel if he gets 4 more years, it could be the end of our great country as we know it. Or so far down the tubes that it would take a miracle to reverse it.
Heck, maybe even Romney can't fix it. He wasn't MY first choice, that's for sure. Hopefully we can get as many conservatives in the House and Senate as possible to give him an easy road to success.
Artful Dodger: GREAT link. Someone who says what so many are thinking. Yes, yes, we all know they are the extreme end of the religion. Let's get that out of the way. But the world for some reason is feeling the need to CATER and BOW to these extremist freaks. I don't get it. It's like in America the FREAKS who riot after sporting events. And vandalize INNOCENT peoples' belongings. I don't see much of a difference. THUGS.
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Modified by rod03801 (20. September 2012, 17:31:00)
Iamon lyme: I see disaster if Obama wins. He already does things against the constitution, and gets away with it! What will he do in a 2nd term when he doesn't have to worry about re-election!!?? And this is not a baseless fear, as you may recall that microphone that was on (and he didn't know it) when he was talking to some foreign leader, and basically said, wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head) He has to be pushed out!
To me, there are SO many things Romney should be doing, but isn't! He should be reminding people of things like this!
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Marshmud: Yes, and the strategy of the Democratic party (at least the most left end of it anyway) is to get more and more ppl dependent on the government, as they are most likely to keep voting them in, since they end up depending on the handouts.
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