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31. July 2009, 15:57:56
Hrqls 
Subject: negative time left
ok i have the problem as well

i just came back from my vacation .. i have today set as a vacation day .. i logged in and noticed some games had a few hours left .. the rest more than a day .. i made my moves in the game which had less than a day time left ..

everything is fine ... all my games have more than 1 day left and tomorrow (when i am awake) i can make the rest of the moves

i then went to my calendar settings ... i did change nothing .. i went back to the main page .. and now quite some games have -16 days time left

this looks weird .. and scared me a bit .. i will see what happens .. i have 23 vacation days left for the rest of the year and automatic vacation days on .. so if i have 22 vacation days tomorrow .. then 1 was taken away automatically by these negative times (although today was already set as a vacation day)

31. July 2009, 17:50:22
Fencer 
Subject: Re: negative time left
Hrqls: The system is to be rewritten anyway, so I would not take it as a big issue. However, it can make problems if someone changes the weekend days because the system does not remember previous settings, of course.

I think the main problem is that the vacation system is already too complicated, as a result of attempts to satisfy all requests of improvements in the past (and some of them had been kind of ridiculous, so to speak). The system is planned to be a little easier in the future - for instance, it is not absolutely necessary to make the weekend days adjustable, so they will be probably set to Saturday and Sunday for everyone.

31. July 2009, 19:02:44
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: negative time left
Fencer: Even simpler would be to get rid of weekends. Which, IMO, are a bit silly - if you need them you can always pick a time pace that allows not playing in weekends. But weekends prevent you from picking a time pace that forces "fast games" -- with weekends, you cannot play a game where you have to move at least once a day; it becomes 5 times a week. (Currently, you can pick a time pace that says "no vacation days, no weekends" and "no vacation, but weekends", but "no weekends, allow vacation" isn't available. The latter would have been my pick).

31. July 2009, 19:18:16
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: negative time left
AbigailII: personally i do need the weekend days ... most of my playing i do from work (mostly in my breaks :)) .. in the weekends i will be busy and might not be able to come online

during the working days (mon till fri) i might be a fast player, but in the weekends i am quite slow

then again i dont mind slow games .. i just would miss it to be able to join tournaments with 3 days per move .. without weekend days thats not possible for me

31. July 2009, 22:32:22
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: negative time left
Hrqls: If you play games with a time control of 3 days or more, you don't need weekends.

31. July 2009, 23:48:46
Czuch 
Subject: Re: negative time left
AbigailII: I was wondering the same thing!

Maybe thats why Netherlands is one of the highest ranked places to live in the world, 3 day weekends

1. August 2009, 13:49:02
Gouwe gozer 
Subject: Re: negative time left
Czuch: There are some other reasons too We prefer to just let you know they excist but not to explain, we prefer everyone stay in their own country

1. August 2009, 13:44:08
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: negative time left
AbigailII & Czuch: lol .. i wish we had :)

the weekend takes away 2 days .. i usually play within 1 day (and most of the times much faster) but i prefer to have 2 days left per move when i log out ... so if the weekend doesnt count then i need 4 days per move when i leave on friday

monday is usually a busy day at work so i make less moves then

31. July 2009, 19:16:05
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: negative time left
Fencer: i agree, the simpler the system the better

adjustable weekenddays give me some extra vacation days per year (by setting them the most profitable when i leave) .. although i agree thats a bit of an abuse of the weekend days :)

the problem i had today though is that i didnt change anything in the settings (neither calendar or any other) .. i just viewed them to see if i could set my weekend back to sat & sun again .. i didnt change anything .. but now most of my games will try to timeout while i am asleep (i will use an extra vacation day to prevent that so i wont worry :))

i dont know what other could have caused it than me viewing the calendar settings

another funny thing is that every hour (i think) each game which was in the negative became 2 days less negative .. so i started at -16 days .. an hour later some were -14 .. and hour later some were -12 .. and now most are within 1 day or even positive

sat & sun for the weekend is best for me .. but thats just me personally of course

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