Luke Skywalker: Very well.

Luke Skywalker: I was about to write almost the exact same thing on this discussion on Feature Request, but decided to read the other boards before replying - and you said almost exactly what I was thinking also.

For example - I like to use AutoPass, and Fencer does not - we have a game together - if Fencer makes a move, and goes to me - let the system autopass it (if it can) and give it back to Fencer to make a move. In this way, Fencer is happy that he does not have to use autopass, and I'm happy because I can use autopass.

Anyway, the exact 3 things you listed is exactly what I would love to see also. Even though I don't like the idea of an opponent being able to just write " . " as a message to mess me up since you know there will be a few users who just like to cause problems who would do that.... but that can be a suggestion later down the road - to autopass even if there is a new message (with the reply of "Opponenet autopassed without reading last message" sent back) - but again, that suggestion can wait for now.

BIG BAD WOLF: Wrong. I won't be happy because the autopass would force me to make a move again instead of going to sleep and relax for several hours before you log in to make the pass move manually.

Fencer: actually, no. You can as well go to sleep and relax, leaving the game sitting when it's your turn ..

except - I agree with you for fisher-time games. Also hexkid's automover doesn't move in those games.

Luke Skywalker: Why not use auto-pass for fisher-timed games?

I mean I guess I always try to play for win/loss, and not timeout of my opponent - so if an auto-pass can help keep a game going even if it's fisher-timed game, I can only see that as a disadvantage to those who try to wait until their opponent is off-line to play their move in the hopes to get them to time out.... which I guess is one way of doing things but what is the point of playing games if you are not going to let your opponent move? OK, sorry... i'm getting off on a tangent.... I try to not even play fisher-timed games anyway...

Fencer: Did you make any decisions yet?

Andersp: Yes. If both players have the autopass set on their Settings page, the game will be played with it.

Fencer: thanks :)

Fencer: Good to know - for ALL Stairs, then, even "dotted" ones? May I ask where do I go to get info to sign up for autopass?

srnity: All of them.
Settings / Game Filter.

srnity: But remember to ask your opponent for permission to use it 

Andersp: You mean before my first move? Can you switch it back off after you put it on - in the middle of a game, for instance?

srnity: No..i mean that it doesnt matter what your settings are if your opponent doesnt want autopass.

Andersp: Ohhhhh, got it - thanks

Andersp: Yeah, which makes autopass a pretty useless feature if you ask me. I've set my setting to autopass as soon as it was possible, but so far, I've yet to encounter an opponent that lets me play with it.

Perhaps I should change strategy. Whenever I have to use pass manually I wait till just before my time runs out. ;-)

srnity: Would be nice if we could see the opponents settings before we challenge him/her

Andersp: So I just went and selected autopass, but it's only available for backgammon and variants, right? And do I really have to "ask" each opponent if it's okey to use with them?

srnity: No..you dont need to "ask", but if you challenge an opponent who has "no autopass" in settings than you cant use it either.  So in fact its your opponent who decides if your settings are in use or not....fair?...ask Fencer :)

Andersp: Ok, so if they have autopass and I have autopass, it just automatically uses itself, yes?...So what happens if it's turned off in the middle of a game tho?...by either player, that is...

srnity: I guess it doesnt change anything in that game

Andersp: I'll have to try it with somebody I know - Thanks for ALL the info

I have been put on retirement from all my stairs when my computer was down. It says that my earliest time to come off retirement is May 7th. How do I activate this to happen please?

Family Man: This is from the Stairs rules:

9) If you want to take a break from the Stairs but you don't want to leave completely (as described in the previous point), you can use a Retirement:

* When you set a Retirement, your Step position will be hidden for other players and they cannot challenge you.
* You must finish your started games even if you set a Retirement and the wins/loses still count and change your Step position (although it is hidden).
* You cannot end the Retirement until at least 7 days pass. After you finish the Retirement, you cannot start a new one within 14 days

rod03801: I did not start my retirement, and I dont know how to end it either.

Will there be a link for me to use once the 7 days are finished?

Okay, I just looked at the rules for stairs and it doesnt say anywhere that you can automatically be put on retirement. Well when I came back on after about a month away with computer problem I was on retirement in all of my stairs. Also I just went in to remove my retirement and it was a long painstaking requirement.

There should be some way to end retirement in all stairs at one time please!

Family Man: Yes i agree, i have just had to go through all my stairs to put myself on retirement, due to my forthcoming holiday

what the hell is the point of excepting a game if you're not going to play it. so for future reference don't except my invitation if you are going take 1000 years to make your move and play!!!!!!!

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.:
1. Relax.
2. This doesn't sound like a Stairs issue, since your opponent couldn't turn down your challenge.
3. Relax..
4. Your opponents are free to spend their time however they want to.
5. Relax...

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.: You only joined this site 3 or 4 hours ago! Patience!. This is a turn based game site, not LIVE games. You need to expect that people will possibly take the time alotted to them.

And fakar10 is right, people CAN'T turn down Stairs challenges.

And posts of this type are generally frowned upon on Brainking.

oh, i didn't know that the games weren't live so my bad for that one.... but regardless of how they want to " spend their time" i should not have to wait 3 hours for my opponent to play when you in a tournament...right? whatsup with that?

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.: I guess you have never been part of a turn based game site. That IS how things work. You have a time limit per move.

You will find it is RARE to NOT have people take a few hours before they move.. In fact it not rare that it be days between moves. That is the nature of the turn based game site. It is for people who WANT that type of flexibility. You need to choose your time limits wisely, ALWAYS expecting that many of your opponents could take the entire time allotted to them.

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.: Lots of things have to be taken into account, firstly they might not even be on the site when you challenged them, also they might have a lot of games to play and yours will be delt to in the process of time. Stay cool lifes to short to speed it up.

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.: To add a couple of things to what rod said,

Think of a turn-based games site like way-back when people use to play chess by the mail. That is they would make a move, then send a postcard through the mail to someone who in turn made a move and sent them the move back and forth through the mail.

So a lot of people will sign on, make moves on the games they have, then leave the site. Then maybe the next day, they will sign back on and see what moves they have waiting for them.

Like rod mentioned, there are even faster time limits (like complete games within 1 hour), but in my opinion - if you like live games, there are other game sites out there that offer live games. But turn-based games might grow on you. Give it a try - that is, start some games - make your moves - then come back tomorrow and check to see what games have moves waiting.

would anyone like to challenge me in a game mancala, if you are waiting?

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.:

I'll play you as long as you dont complain about how long it takes to make moves 

(I'll send a 1 day time limit invite)  

I am not sure if somebody has asked this before or not, but i will have to retire from all of my stairs soon and i am in so many, is there a feature already implimented where i can retire from all of them at a click of a button instead of going through them all one by one.

Anyone who is in Slow Stairs Chess at or above step 3, where are you!?!? I'm waiting for your challenge!

;-)

(They call me the Whoosta-Nator.)

Funny! I created stairs Seven points match stairs for fellowship One and I had an idea with doubling cube.
I marked backgammon but I didn´t notice device setting chess.
What will happen if some chess players want to play here?

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.:
I have the same feeling about the turn-base game
that felling is " mad" "almost angry"
when mt opponent just login and logout but not resign the hopeless game.
a good live game player is much better than a turnbased game player. I

computeropponen: Then why play at a turn based game site? It is clearly stated that this is what Brainking is.

rod03801: sometimes you have to test your strength after you lost many live games for blood

see if you still good enough to beat the turnbased player for fun

rod03801:
anyway I still treat it a live game to play..that is..I don't use book and computer, and I move like as if I play an "OTB " game.

VA_M.O.N.E.Y.: you said that you waited 3 hours for your opponent to play...another guy said that your opponent not even at site when you play, because it is a turnbased site.....any sport, your opponents are always insight, after the game you may shake his hands too for friendship.

rod03801:
when someone pointed out the bad side of playing at turnbased site, you just say play here accept as it is or go to other site. you never consider how to improve the playing environment....good player will come here to play....

computeropponen: Well, I don't make those sort of decisions here. So, my point was, why complain about "turn based" specifically, yet play anyway. If ANYthing, this site offers even MORE options as far as "time" goes, than many other turn based sites.
And maybe it's a language difference thing, but it sounded like you were insulting those who DO play at turn based sites. "a good live game player is much better than a turnbased game player"
If that is the case, then play at a live game site. Easy solution, to me. That's all I meant.

rod03801:
still you are talking the same tone
i did not insult any body playing here
there are many factor to be considered in a real game
see.. I used the word REAL OR LIVE for the over the board game.
the playing condition is not the same

what i am talking is the
'fact'
just look at the highest level, the world chinese chess champion is much better than a correspondence chinese chess champion
'

rod03801:
yes.. there are good side of this site
as you said that this site is better than most turnbased site.

I sugest that the challenge rule change :
you can only challenge up
you can challenge any one above you not only the one at the same stair.

now you can move up only one stair each time when you win one game, too slow to move up

My first post here dated 9 March 2011 and the last post by Jaak before me dated 3 July 2009
It has been one year 5 months and 6 days in between, a loooong time no one has posted at this board
It seems that people just abandoned this discussion board or they have nothing to discusss about it.....

I have posted here 8 x in two days....It is too many....

computeropponen: Please visit this board. There have been no posts there since the creation thereof.