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this is a board that talks about issues concerning animals...your own pets as well as animal rights,alerts,bills before congress that need our attention.This is a family board but as abuse cases may be posted it may not always be for the sensitive readers.Please be kind to each other,thanks!


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19. října 2007, 20:26:11
The Col 
Subjekt: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Emotion does sometimes get the better of us when it relates to animals

20. října 2007, 02:26:30
srnity 
Subjekt: Ellen DeGeneres puppygate
I'm probably on my fifth (?) shelter animal/pet & every one of them (including my current mentally gifted but very beautiful and loving doggie) has been co-owned by both the shelter and myself, meaning that if for some reason I can't keep them, or something happens to me, they go back to the no-kill shelter that I adopted them from. I think from the PSPCA's (Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) point-of-view it's to ensure that the pet will never be put down unnecessarily or put in an environment that the society doesn't approve of beforehand. I don't know if they do that for every animal they adopt out, as mine were "special" cases, I was interviewed, supplied references, etc.....my dog is even "chipped" with both our info just in case.....If Ellen was aware from the get-go, I don't see why she was so upset about it, there are literally thousands upon thousands of shelter animals across the country that need homes

20. října 2007, 04:59:49
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Jim Dandy: I think Ellen went too far. At first I was sympathetic. But she broke the rules. And the shelter owners have the right and responsibility to make sure the animals they adopt out are well cared for. The new owners of the dog refused to comply with the shelter's request and fill out the proper paperwork. Ellen used her celebrity status against the woman at the shelter and also had her lawyers on it. And of course with the media it has now gotten way out of hand. Cute pup though!

22. října 2007, 18:59:27
srnity 
Zoe, a domestic shorthair cat, touches the mouse of a computer during a media preview for The Cat Fanciers' Association 5th Annual CFA-Iams Cat Championship in New York October 10, 2007.

23. října 2007, 07:00:58
The Col 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Papa: I agree,wielding her audience like a knife in battle was unfortunate.I get the feeling she was only asked to follow proper procedure but felt she was above it all.

23. října 2007, 07:07:14
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Jim Dandy: It's a sad situation all around. But a person with access to the media can paint something anyway they want and the other person (in this case the owner of the shelter) finds herself on defensive. A sad commentary when you consider the fact that both parties are strong advocates for animals rights etc. The dog is likely in a very good home and that's the important thing. And the new "caretakers" of the dog followed all the guidelines of the shelter. That's the way it ought to be. A good outcome for the dog, in my view.

23. října 2007, 18:08:58
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Papa:Fox News had the shelter's attorney on and he stated that the shelter did tell the family that all they had to do was go fill out the paperwork application for the dog, and they refused to do that. I did not hear that from any media outlet.

23. října 2007, 20:16:21
The Col 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Eriisa: I caught that story on Faux,I think this has backfired on Ellen.

23. října 2007, 20:23:50
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Eriisa: I saw that too. Last night another woman came forward and told the news that Ellen had given away a puppy she gave her. So this isn't the first time. It's all so strange.

24. října 2007, 20:37:09
Dolittle 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Papa: I agree that Ellen carried the whole situation too far. Granted she is a very popular celeb but that doesn't give anyone the right to break rules. When I adopted my little MinPin, I signed an agreement that said she goes back to the shelter if things didn't work out. Am quiet sure that Ellen signed the same type agreement.

24. října 2007, 21:31:08
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re: What is everyones opinion of the Ellen DeGeneres puppygate?
Dolittle: That's what I understand happened in Ellen's case too. She was told and I believe signed an agreement that she wouldn't give the dog away. It makes sense that the shelter wants to screen potential homes for the pets they place. They are being responsible when they do that. And that they followed up and took the dog back when Ellen violated the agreement speaks highly of their commitment to animals.

26. října 2007, 00:39:44
srnity 
Subjekt: How Sweet :)
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071024/capt.d8a6066cd88e4b6a813bdb456d5291a1.zebra_dolphin_wxs105.jpg?x=360&y=345&sig=UzPnhw2CjGK95B.F4ZvGVw--

n this photo and caption provided by Six Flags Discovery Kingdom, Beauregard, an 8-month-old male Grants zebra is greeted by Brandy, an Atlantic bottlenose dolphin while out on a daily walk around the park at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom in Vallejo, Calif., Tuesday, Oct. 23, 2007. Beauregard was hand-reared at the park and takes daily strolls around the 135-acre park.

26. října 2007, 01:23:31
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re: How Sweet :)
srnity: OMG! That is adorable!!

26. října 2007, 01:56:59
anastasia 
Subjekt: help stop this!! *may offend some sensitve readers
Změněno uživatelem anastasia (26. října 2007, 01:58:15)

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/iowa_pig_hangings?c=weekly_enews



please go here..read it and then sign the petition!! Thanks!!


28. října 2007, 02:39:58
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Cyotes are canine family and I think alot of people are surprised at the size of them.NO,I could NEVER even have finished sitting through dinner with him....No respect for animals....

28. října 2007, 02:55:15
wetware 
Subjekt: None of my business
but my suggestion: no 2nd date.   

28. října 2007, 23:31:40
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: I dont like the sound of that bloke, how anyone can do that for a living is beyond me!

30. října 2007, 18:59:15
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: doing what he does for a hobby doesnt come under conservation in my book! Im glad youve turned him down, he doesnt sound like your type at all.  Yes I know what you mean about finding the right one!!

31. října 2007, 22:27:43
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Yes but thats what I dont get....hes a conservationist for a living & then partakes in trapping as a hobby??? The two just dont gel...hes either just doing his job for the money without any passion or....well I dont know what???
 

1. listopadu 2007, 20:13:16
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: He sounds very mixed up!!

2. listopadu 2007, 00:34:42
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Aww & I bet they are keeping you very busy!! Will you end up keeping her? How do you pronounce her name, its very unusual & beautiful! dont think I know the movie)

2. listopadu 2007, 00:44:23
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: thanks, aww that is sweet! 

2. listopadu 2007, 01:45:11
srnity 
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20071031/capt.9ba9b88807fc427a99ea3b01ab4abe66.halloween_treat_cx106.jpg?x=380&y=282&sig=cgQZYQ.c4FN5skvzM9ByQg--

A photo provided by the Chicago Zoological Society's Brookfield Zoo shows Hudson, a near 1-year-old polar bear cub, enjoying a Halloween pumpkin at the zoo in Brookfield , Ill., on Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2007.

2. listopadu 2007, 01:59:06
srnity 
Subjekt: How Cute Are These? :)

2. listopadu 2007, 02:09:55
srnity 

2. listopadu 2007, 02:12:48
Papa Zoom 

2. listopadu 2007, 02:14:11
srnity 
Subjekt: Re:
Tigger: .......the dog looks humiliated .......

2. listopadu 2007, 02:21:58
Papa Zoom 
Subjekt: Re:
srnity:  nah, he's just looking for pooh. 

2. listopadu 2007, 02:24:49
srnity 
Subjekt: Re:
Tigger: They put his nose on his head? I don't blame him for looking sad

2. listopadu 2007, 02:29:50
srnity 
Subjekt: Wow, what detail ...

2. listopadu 2007, 02:30:53
srnity 
Subjekt: Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww...

2. listopadu 2007, 02:35:48
srnity 
Subjekt: I think they are impressive...

3. listopadu 2007, 01:00:56
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
 Tuesday: awwwwwww

5. listopadu 2007, 23:10:25
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: Aww yes, one of my friends dog used to chase the ice cream van & go ballistic barking & growling! I dont think he liked the music the van was playing lol but yes could be fatal, you do good to keep  her away from the bus! 

6. listopadu 2007, 01:09:03
srnity 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: An average schoolbus weighs about 24,000 lbs. empty (they have numerous springs, airbrake tanks, etc. to be safe with the weight of 70ish people when full) & don't stop on a dime like your average 1500 lb. car If she gets run-over (God-forbid), she'll be crushed, no matter how big a dog she is, best to keep her indoors - I tell people from the get-go to either leash or keep their dog indoors if their dog is the "chasing" kind (sadly, bus drivers barely know when they've run over an animal, dog or otherwise) - I also have dogs that wait for their "kids" at the corner of the property, but are wise enough to keep clear and wait - I wouldn't risk having my dog killed that way

6. listopadu 2007, 01:28:43
anastasia 
Subjekt: Re:
srnity: good advice

6. listopadu 2007, 14:38:27
Ewe 
Subjekt: Re:
Tuesday: I havent got the time or the extra energy to look after a dog right now with my kids being so very young, but maybe 3 - 5 years or so time I would definately concider getting another dog.
Yes my daughter loves puppies (in pictures) and all animals for that matter lol

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