Aganju: With great results, particularly in line games and chess. Congrats, Aganju!

rabbitoid: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssss! I've been flirted too! Thank you for your desire, Anita! :)

Gabriel Almeida: Maybe we should add it to the achievements.

To get this achievement!

http://brainking.com/en/Achievements?p=1&aid=141

It would be quite cool if pawns were allowed to play in ponds, and there would be more competition too! :o)

Any thoughts?

furbster: I like the idea allowing Pawn members playing ponds, so then there are more players playing. As the current rules state that Pawn members always use the last known move this should be fixed.

Aganju:

congratulations :)

I am unable to get in to any fellowships today. I get a white blank pages and have to either go out of the site or back click. Is anyone else having the same problem?

crosseyed: same here,hun

crosseyed: yeh i'm having the same problem

crosseyed: What about now?

Fencer: It's okay now thanks.

Fencer: works fine for me now,too.

I'm still having trouble with the white pages.

pattypoo: I've just logged in your account, opened some games, visited discussions, viewed a couple of other pages. No problems at all. Perhaps it is a WebTV issue?

Thanks Fencer, could be.

Hi people (Fencer, Coan, Tanein), how about more team tournaments? And any kind of action to "vote" games and/or type of tournament?

Gabriel Almeida: Tiger Checker Club challenges any team in the world!

Gabriel Almeida: I can try to get some new team tournaments set up this weekend - any suggestions on games? I usually try to mix it up with popular are not-popular games, but always open to suggestions.

anti reversi or behemoth chess? :)

coan.net: Checkers if you can find a team.

Gabriel Almeida: Agreed.

Chess (thisbeme vs. Tibs)

Logik (sacha vs. thisbeme)

Saturday sunday is my weekend I should not be timing out while it is still sunday in "standard vacation" games.

thisbeme: Perhaps because now, in your country, you are on Monday ?

thisbeme: Sat/Sun is calculated according to the server's time zone, which is eastern europe. So the BK weekend is over at Sun 6 pm EST, or in PT even at Sun 3 pm. It starts already early on the other hand, though.

I am involved in a backgammon tournament with 21 p matches. After 8 weeks one of the matches has reached 7 completed moves. With more than 20 moves per game and roughly 20 games per match the tournament will last for maybe 10 years with the response times one of the participants use. He is involved in more than 3000 games. I think there should be a limit so you can't have so many games going on. Even if you are on the highest membership level. I am 64 and maybe I will have to make "The final resignation" before this match is over.

norrsken:   you have to be careful with those 21p move games,  I play alot of games and find there are lots of people that take along time (and within the time limit) to make there moves which they are entitled, only benefit is that by mid march they start to time out in the games..  You are better off sticking max to the 5 game matches and if you like to play fast stick to games that are 3 days or less,   There are many people here who play large quantities of games and they play fast and they do not time out.  Many of us with the higher paid memberships are here because we like the unlimited amount of games and  we play all our games daily

norrsken: Welcome to the turtle victim club
I think 10 years is highly optimistic
beach: a professional turtle won't usually time out. He'll just play his moves at the last possible second.

rabbitoid: I know I was being polite, I have a ludo game that is now going on 6 years at the speed its going it will be 2016 before it ends

beach: After 5 years at the same 21p round I don't feel very polite. Unfortunately I don't speak Italian, and even if I did I doubt that what I had to say would be a lot of help.

norrsken: I feel with you.
I have started to review the participant list of such tourneys before I join. Many names I know by heart, as I play 50 moves against them ever day; but if there are unknowns, I check their record. Just click on their name, and see
- how many running games
- how many games that are threatening to time out soon
- how much vacation left
- # of moves made yesterday
- check any of their games that is on move 30 and see how long it is running.
together that makes a good enough picture, and even though there are exceptions, rather be save than sorry...

I don't get why some people find it interesting to have 3000 games running and not being able to keep up with it. You would think they learn it after a while, but it seems they don't. Just like Homer Simpson - bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! bang! Aouw! ...

norrsken: I will leave some of my matches to my beneficiaries...for them to complete as a kind of memorial.

norrsken: I very briefly considered playing in the same 21pt tournament you're in. Then I did a few calculations and realized that if two turtles play each other under those conditions, it could easily take 50 years. Apart from everything that's been said (most of which I agree with) it doesn't make sense that one can create a tournament that can last 50 years.

Aganju:  very well said

beach: I will consider following your advice which I thing is wise. I can understand that some like unlimited amount of games but the turtle I am speaking of has today 3363 games going on. It is hard to play so many daily with some enjoyment.

Aganju: Thank you good advice though a little complicated. And there is always a risk that one of the turtles will register after me.

I think a "Turtle Rating" could be invented and assigned to tournaments. It could be the estimated number of years the tournament will last considered the slowest participants average response times.

Another idea is to create a "Turtle Sanctuary". The sanctuary consists of a lot of tournaments with long matches like 33p in Backgammon. To qualify for these tournaments you have to be involved in at least 1500 games. In the sanctuary the turtles can sit and play against each others for some ten, twenty years.

norrsken: I like the idea... but I'm not sure the turtles would confine themselves to the sanctuary. 

pedestrian: Something like this?

pedestrian: now that is the height of ridiculousness (SP)....Fencer should step in and not allow that sort of nonsense.

Yes just add that you have to be involved in a lot of games (something like 1500) to qualify and it could work.

norrsken: I'm not convinced that such a limit is really needed... this way it'll appeal to the wannabe turtles as well. Btw., I know people with 1500+ games that are not turtles, so it's difficult to set a relevant limit.

Bernice: It's just a bit of light-hearted fun 

pedestrian: I signed up for anti-backgammon, I can make some of those games last for 400+ moves

Vikings: we may be talking millennia then!

pedestrian: Non turtles with 1500+ have the freedom to play inside and outside the sanctuary if they want. It is just admirable that than can handle that amount without beeing turtles.

pedestrian: Agree. It is not really serious just a way of dealing with some frustration that I have almost 20% of my games with one of the top turtles.

Vikings: I used to think that anti-back was the game that allowed the maximum number of moves. No. I have seen a game of regular camelot on Goldtoken that lists 939 moves. the outcome (draw) was obvious after about 100 moves, but they continued at it for 800 more. And to top it, the game lasted only 3 months. Now say this game was played by the Kid and his Eminence ...

rabbitoid: 459 and counting Anti Backgammon (SL-Mark vs. Vikings), it'll probably go at least 650, I like to extend the games when I am in control just to see who will resign