After all, he got his 714 home runs in a lot less at bats than either of those guys. At one time Ruth was more than 300 home runs ahead of the second place guy. And Babe Ruth was a pitcher for most of his career with the Red Sox. Some of his pitching records (Yes, even in the World Series on the Red Sox, remember it was them that traded him to the the Yankees and began the Curse) held for a long time too. Bonds wasn't the first guy to be intentionally walked with the bases loaded. Ruth also would pitch and not bat ninth in the order either sometimes.

The Usurper: This is an interesting story on the subject

http://baseball.suite101.com/article.cfm/barry_bonds_vs_hank_aaron

Willie Mays was the best all around player in my opinion. Hank was great , but Willie was a great fielder , baserunner and played in ballparks that were much harder to hit HR's then Hank and still hit 660 of them...it's a shame he's associated with Barry, by being his godfather...not much class has seemed to rub off on Barry...

Tuesday: Bonds does, and that's everybody he's concerned about. What's amazing is the light this shines on the greatness of Hank Aaron. Even without steroids, Bonds was a great player. But Hank was in a class by himself.

Well 2 trophys for the young Arsenal side as they get ready to take on the BIG 3 again in the pemiership starting next week.
All i can say is Go Go Arsenal, Good Luck Lads

Emirates Cup

Robin van Persie's brilliant winner saw Arsenal beat Inter Milan and lift the pre-season Emirates Cup.

Van Persie tricked his way into space to drill a powerful shot past the Serie A champions' keeper Francesco Toldo.

Despite dominating for long spells Arsenal fell behind to a well-placed header from Inter's Honduras striker David Suazo.

Arsenal drew level when Alexander Hleb reacted to drill home the loose ball after Toldo saved his initial effort.

For long periods, it looked as though Arsenal had found no solution to their lack of cutting edge from last season.

Some of the Gunners' approach play and passing was exquisite, but they failed to carve out many chances against a stubborn Inter defence.

Hleb and van Persie were invariably involved in the chances they did create.

Hleb's delightful dummy set up van Persie in the first half but keeper Julio Cezar stretched to save and the Dutch striker drew another fine save from the Brazilian keeper.



Amsterdam Tournament

Arsenal scooped their second tournament trophy of the week with a battling 1-0 victory over Ajax on Saturday night.

Arsène Wenger's side had won the Emirates Cup last Sunday thanks to a late strike from Robin van Persie. It was a case of double Dutch this evening as the striker finished off a marauding run from Gael Clichy three minutes from time to win the Amsterdam Tournament.

The victory was deserved. Ajax keeper Maarten Stekelenburg had been by far the busier keeper, saving point-blank from Kolo Toure and Van Persie during a lively 90 minutes.

Of course, pre-season form will count for nothing when the campaign starts properly at the weekend. However, in the past eight days Arsenal's young side have strung together wins over PSG, Inter, Lazio and now Ajax.

Team 		P 	W 	D 	L 	F 	A 	Pts 	Bonus Pts 	Total Pts

Arsenal 	2 	2 	0 	0 	3 	1 	6 	3 		9
Atletico Mad'd	2 	1 	0 	1 	3 	3 	3 	3 		6
Ajax 		2 	1 	0 	1 	2 	1 	3 	2 		5
Lazio 		2 	0 	0 	2 	2 	5 	0 	2 		2

NFL CENTER STAGE

The place to be during the NFL season,there are bound to be free chicken wing specials offered at some point during the season,it's bound to happen.

Oceans Apart: Yes, he did great , i do feel sorry for Garcia though, he was leading for so long and playing so well. That first play off hole lost it for him

Not to worry

Well done Padraig

MadMonkey: Yes your right, but i must say, Harrington for me

Oceans Apart: I must say, i do not mind either of them. About time a European won it and neither of these has won a major before

MadMonkey: lmao i know...this is gonna be an incredible play off....whose ya money on?

Oceans Apart: Best Open finish i have seen in years, great stuff.

Its funny, they can not start the play off as the flag for the first hole is missing how funny

Oh my loaf, anybody watching The Open, and Garcia's putt.........play off now

ooooo whooooo adn another one, well done  to Gavin Reece, New Champion

COME ON MACCARINELLI

MadMonkey: Part 1 done Amir Khan wins after being put down as well. He broke Limonds jaw

Good Luck to Amir Khan as he tries to get the Commonwealth Lightweight Title from Scotland's Willie Limond.
Also, our local Michael Sprott takes on Matt Skelton for the Commonwealth Heavyweight Title

On ITV1 at 9-10

MadMonkey: mark had a really disappointing round yesterday finishing +7, projected cut i reckon will be around par . Early tee off for him today, lets hope he can make some ground

so far crappy day ( not sure if i can use that word, somebody tll me if i cant) +2 after 11

MadMonkey: They were jsut talking about hole 11 par 3, saying how hard it is, and if ya get a par 3 then count ya blessings.....Mark birdied it LMAO

MadMonkey: LMAO snap 

Oceans Apart: As i sit at my desk looking out at the horrible weather, to the right is my PC screen, and to the left my TV screen, life of luxury eh

MadMonkey: yes i like Garcia too, Gary Houston is good as well he is the Pro at Carden Park, not far from where i live

If u go to www.europeantour.com it is an excellent website and  can follow the live scoring there, if u arent near a tv

lol, ssshhhh early days

I like watching Garcia, Luke Donald & Darren Clarke, would love him to do well after losing his wife

oooosp know he isnt, jsut had a bogey on the 3rd

MadMonkey: aw thank you he is -1 after 2, so on the right tracks, it is big money there this weekend, he has slipped quite abit in the rankings, so needs a boost this , fingers crossed he will make the cut.

Mark's dad John, coaches Simon Wakefield so hopefully he will do well too.

Oceans Apart: Good luck to him, i know he is related to you, here are my selection

Ernie Els & Paul Lawrie - i always follow
Ian Poulter - Arsenal nut like me, dresses a bit like me as well lol
Graeme Storm - coz i love the name

No golf smiley , then we didnt have a Tennis one either for Wimbledon

Intended for chat about anything NFL or College from here on throught the season.Everyone is welcome.It's called NFL CENTER STAGE

LMAO

Summer Flame: Go far When ever i watch him he goes round in circles LOL

MadMonkey: I thought he did real well, he another schumi in the making, he will go far

Unlucky to Lewis, who only managed 3rd place in today British Grand Prix.
Still, not bad going, another podium, that 9 out 9 races now, not bad for a Rookie

POS 	DRIVER
1. 	Kimi Raikkonen 	
2. 	Fernando Alonso 
3. 	Lewis Hamilton 
4. 	Robert Kubica 
5. 	Felipe Massa 	
6. 	Nick Heidfeld 
7. 	Heikki Kovalainen 	
8. 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	
9. 	Rubens Barrichello 	
10. 	Jenson Button 	
11. 	David Coulthard 
12. 	Nico Rosberg 	
13. 	Alexander Wurz 	
14. 	Takuma Sato 	
15. 	Christijan Albers 	
16. 	Vitantonio Liuzzi 	

British GP - Saturday - Qualifying Session Results:

Lewis Hamilton left it till the last lap to sneak poll for tomorrows British GP
Go Lewisssss

1. 	Lewis Hamilton 	       
2. 	Kimi Raikkonen   	
3. 	Fernando Alonso 	
4. 	Felipe Massa 	         
5. 	Robert Kubica 	      
6. 	Ralf Schumacher 	
7. 	Heikki Kovalainen 	
8. 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	
9. 	Nick Heidfeld 	     
10. 	Jarno Trulli 	         
11. 	Mark Webber 	    
12. 	David Coulthard 	
13. 	Alexander Wurz 	        
14. 	Rubens Barrichello 	
15. 	Scott Speed 	         
16. 	Vitantonio Liuzzi 	
17. 	Nico Rosberg 	       
18. 	Jenson Button 	    
19. 	Anthony Davidson 	
20. 	Adrian Sutil 	     
21. 	Takuma Sato 	    
22. 	Christijan Albers 	

welshrugbyfan: lol yes i agree lol

Family Man:
I'd have done rather better than 4/10 except I do not know much about baseball ...... not exactly shown much in the UK .....

Well i had a go, but not being American know nothing about American Football & Basketball

I have started a daily trivia contest for all of us sports fans here!

It is set for intermediate level, general sports category knowledge type questions.

All are welcome to participate, and there is a new quiz every day!

Good Luck!

http://my.funtrivia.com/tournament/Brainking-Sports-Trivia-73352.html

Well Done Tim Henman, finished his first round match from yesterday on center court.
Won 3 - 2 in sets (13-11 in the last), great stuff as he has had such a bad year (need a Tennis smiley for Wimbledon)

Bring on Mayweather

Does anybody know how Ricky Hatton got on last night

MadMonkey: I was surprised to here that Ricky Hatton is live and exclusive on
Setanta Sports for his big fight on the 23rd. I thought SKY would make
this a pay-per-view fight. 

Oceans Apart: Oh yes, i forgot about that. Is it on TV? I have not got a paper today, and cant see it flicking through the Menu on Virgin

good luck to RICKY HATTON tonight in Las Vegas

Well, nice investment for someone Lewis Hamiltons Go-Cart, bidding closes Wednesday

Lewis Lewis Lewis, Well done. A fantastic race it was too

United States Grand Prix Results - 17 June 2007 - 73 Laps

Pos 	Driver

1. 	Lewis Hamilton 	
2. 	Fernando Alonso 	
3. 	Felipe Massa 	
4. 	Kimi Raikkonen 	
5. 	Heikki Kovalainen 
6. 	Jarno Trulli 	
7. 	Mark Webber 	
8. 	Sebastian Vettel 	
9. 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	
10. 	Alexander Wurz 	
11. 	Anthony Davidson 	
12. 	Jenson Button 	
13. 	Scott Speed 	
14. 	Adrian Sutil 	
15. 	Christijan Albers

Drivers' Championship  	Country  	Team  		Points

Lewis Hamilton 		Great Britain 	McLaren 	58
Fernando Alonso 	Spain 		McLaren 	 48
Felipe Massa 		Brazil 	 	Ferrari  	39
Kimi Raikkonen 		Finland 	Ferrari 	32
Nick Heidfeld 		Germany 	BMW Sauber 	26
Giancarlo Fisichella 	Italy 		Renault 	13
Heikki Kovalainen 	Finland 	Renault 	12
Robert Kubica 	 	Poland 		BMW Sauber 	12
Alexander Wurz 		Austria 	Williams 	8
Jarno Trulli 	 	Italy 		Toyota 		7
Nico Rosberg 		Germany 	Williams  	5
David Coulthard 	Great Britain 	Red Bull 	4
Takuma Sato 		Japan 		Super Aguri 	4
Mark Webber 		Australia	Red Bull 	2
Ralf Schumacher 	Germany 	Toyota 		2
Sebastian Vettel 	Germany 	BMW Sauber 	1
	
Constructors' Championship 	Points

McLaren 			106
Ferrari 			71
BMW Sauber 			39
Renault 			25
Williams 			13
Toyota 				 9
Red Bull 			 6
Super Aguri 			 4