see.. what'd I tell ya!! haha.. you go boy!! whooo hooo..

John Baker: that makes sense.

bwildman: He's most likely talking individual moves, and then only from the "losing move" they had been discussing. That way, 131 sounds about right.
There were 148 total moves in the game (74x2) and 131 moves back must have been the move in question.

Pedro Martínez: 131 moves?
that game went 74..am I missing something?

Grim Reaper: Wow and Wow!!!!!! I had no ideal. :o)

Pedro Martínez: duh..LOL..my bad..I should have said"end games"

bwildman: There are three possible outcomes in a game of checkers.

Grim Reaper: how many possible outcomes are there in a game of checkers?
I only ask you this,because I know you have written checker programs for several years now.

ScarletRose: isnt he just simply AmaZing??? LOL..I wonder if Purple is taking bets on the game of the century?

Socrates: Maybe he is a genius and no one wants to accept it.. haha..

He is a kewl dude actually.. he fools you all! :) Makes you think he is a meanie..

Hey Ed.. how's life? And I wonder why I don't play checkers with him.. haha

Congratulations on being the greatest online checkers player, Grim Reaper.

Purple: where are u playing it bud

Purple: how many times have you beat GR?

Grim Reaper: I can see one move ahead maybe..so what do I know? LOL. But I have played Ustica 100 times in the last 4 years with zero wins. As I said it looks like a close game.

Grim Reaper: That was impressive by any standard. Thanks.

Socrates: I see a close game but I'll take Ustica and the points. LOL

Pedro Martínez: WOW!!can predict 131 moves. must be the best. like in chess ,in 4 games was #1. WOW!! Congrats

Maybe Ed Trice is the greatest player in the world :)

So, the game is over. Grim Reaper has won. Amazing how someone can predict a loss/win in 131 moves (I mean this). Congrats

For anyone interested, it's this game:
http://brainking.com/cz/ShowGame?g=967503

Grim Reaper: OK. Thanks.

Grim Reaper: Fair offer. Do it that way.

Pedro, if you do not think it is a losing move, challenge me to a rated game, and play it. I will play the other side.

The piece that would have moved from 24 to 28 is now off the board, and cannot influence the play whatsoever.

That subgame, by defintion, cannot possibly occur in this game, since it is impossible to create any such position from the parent game with an extra piece on the board.

Does anybody else think that the "24-28" is not a losing move?

Pedro Martínez: If it looks like it is impacting THIS game your post will be deleted whether you think it is nonsense or not.

Excuse me but that's a total nonsense what you wrote. I want to discuss a theoretical game that has absolutely no connection to the game these two are playing since it's already a completely different game. All I want to figure out is if Trice would have lost the game if he had moved 9.b6-a7. That's it. Absolutely no connection whatsoever to the ongoing game.

Pedro Martínez: It seems hard to discuss the move that was not made without bringing in the move that was and how future moves were/are impacted by that.

Purple: I'm talking about a move that was NOT played. Trice didn't move that way. I don't care about the game they play right now, I want to discuss the "24-28" move.

Pedro Martínez: If the chat gets more detailed and someone suggests a course of action for a next move or even a strategy then someone could yell "foul." Analyze away..I do..but be careful about the posting because we don't want to provide excuses. The game is one on one.

Purple: What problem?

Pedro Martínez: There could be a problem analyzing moves of a game in progress as tempting as it is.

Does anybody else think that the "24-28" is not a losing move?

Grim Reaper: As for the numeric notation, have you noticed this Settings page?

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=10365&tri=51956&trnst=0

and we miss all the juicy chat lol

gooner: i agree. serial unposting should be a crime..!

Grim Reaper: One look? I can stare at that move forever and don't see it as a losing one. I actually think it's not a bad move at all.

ustica:

Take a chance? Translation. Lie about the move and see if your opponent believes you.

Sorry pal, one look at "24-28" (by the way, why did you say that instead of refer to the letters on the board on BrainKing? Oh, that's right, computer programs have numbers on them, don't they?) and I knew that was a losing move.

Grim Reaper: I was wonder if you use 3 program or just one. but hey! if you wanna win you gotta take chance.

http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=952957&i=16

I direct everyone's attention to the above position. After I made my move, my opponent, Ustica, made this remark to me in our game:

ustica: ustica: (7. August 2005, 01:48:33)
if i was white i do 24-28 not 1-6 you like publesh moves. oh well just my opion.

On our board, 1-6 is g1-f2 and 24-28 is b6-a7. The move the "great" ustica is trying to tell me to play will lose.

I am wondering, if he is so good, why doesn't he know this? Does he actually think he can persuade me to make a losing move.

What a great champion he is.

Will players invite me to some checker games?

Grim Reaper: Very impressive though the computer talk was way over my head.

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/alemanni/apage_check_e.html

Kingsrow has the 10-piece database now.

http://pages.prodigy.net/eyg/Checkers/10-pieceBuild.htm

gooner: Any missing posts were removed by the poster. (unless a Global Mod came in)

Its confusing when posts are missing :o)

Something us non-perfect humanoids experience on occasion. I'll try to explain better for you super-humans!

Maybe not 50/50, but you're not allowing for human error. Ratings are only a guide. I've beaten people in games with much higher ratings than me - and people with much lower ratings than me have won games after I made a bad move. It happens.