stop betting "1" then..... LOL

Just fell into my second pond in first round.
Is this a record

http://brainking.com/game/Pond?g=26

.... it is getting very interesting now!

7 players left in that pond now, someone lost with a bet of 850

It was obvious from the begining that the first game was not going to represent a 'typical' game.

It's probably a reflex of the very first run. Having so many players, low bids were almost mandatory to make it to the end.
As more and more pond games are played I'm sure the initial bids will start to go higher and higher. At least for a 20000 point start

I'm very surprised too, how low the most starting bids in several games are...

For those players that have played this pond game before at other places:

In those games, what is usually around the lowest number that usually gets booted in the first round of games?

I'm just very surprised on how low the bids are in these games in the first few rounds.

LOL, I can see that if I didn't fall in the pond in the last round, I'd definitely be there now...

I was watching my bet of 332 - at about an hour left, I was debating if I wanted to go higher - but decided to stay with my original bet of 332.

.... now what to bet.. 500 will probable not even be safe now with this few players....

i just noticed that stevie, very unlucky.

arrrrrrrrrghhhh someone bid same as me so neither of us got the bonus in czuchs pond :o(

Czuch : me too me too . But 5 minutes before deadline something in me brain said me , its not enough . I told him be quiet :(

Thats crazy that it went to 300 from 93 the previous round.
I would have thought 300 would be plenty!

yes maxxina, i changed my bet from 250 to 530 in the last 10 mins.. sorry lol

And i dont want to see a pond when only 5 player and less will stand :] That will be amazing :]

yeaa and i was thinging i will change it and i didnt make it . im fool :D

http://brainking.com/game/Pond?g=26

this pond is getting interesting, a bet off 300 didnt make it, im getting more confused as to how much to bet now

Is that poetic or what? LOLOL

I had to open my big mouth about no one going in with a bid over ten on the first move..... I just kerplunked at 11 :)

yeh, maybe you should try 11 ;o)

furbster: tell me about it LOL

stevie that bid of 10 isn't doing you much justice is it(tehe) feell a few times with that one.

I like BBW's (Bry's) proposal:

Starting point Value: Choose between 1,000 - 20,000 (Maybe choices like 1,000, 2,500, 5,000, 7,500, 10,000, 12,500, 15,000, 17,500, 20,000)

Bonus Points: Choice between 0 = 500 (maybe choices like 0, 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, 500)

So the most "unbalanced" game would be start with 1,000 points, and can get up to 500 bonus points - which is how many games will be towards the end of the game anyway!

There is no need to make it more complicated.

Or breakfast. One or the udder.

I would think that most abominal snowmen would see cattle as lunch

Who me?????

I see Medic as rude but not normal.

we all also have to understand that with people here from all sorts of cultures, what one person sees as rude, another person sees as normal

maybe if tourneys could be set up by invite only,, like my new glasses

bumble:

Vikings: And don't forget that there are a lot of non-English speaking members that don't understand the description at all. Medic for one.

I would like to see the amount I bid in the previous round, when I go to make my next move. Yes, it is easy enough to scroll a little and look at the chart, but on the bigger ponds, (like the first one), it would be nice to just have the information right there.

I would love to see a statistics page that shows averages of all the games.

Like the average bet of the first person to fall in...(right now belive that 12 or higher has never gone out in the first round)
Also the average low and high bids per round ie the average low bid in round #9 is (?), the average high bid in round 11 is (?) etc... This would have to be catorgorized by how many people start the game as well.

hehe , some players like me just play random ...both high and low

Yea, what I like is in one round, a person will win the bonus with a low bid like 55, then next round - about 4 or 5 people will have bids of around and over 500 - to try to get the bonus.

Hopefully Fencer will let us look at past moves of all the pond games soon - I have started to learn how some players play, but would be nice to "research" some players a little more... :-)

bet you someone bets over 400 in next round

Actually 2 people bid 55, and neither got the bonus is Czuch's pond!

I just saw that! VERY frustrating....

and someone got the bonus with a bid of 55

Walter Montego: I guess I won't be seeing first hand in both games, since I'm the first one out in Czuch's! :)

Vikings: Thank you

maybe if you put the word "fellowship" in the title you would have less of a problem, there are so many fellowships its hard to keep tract of, I know that I have never heard of that one, and I, like most people really don't read the description that closely

Sorry, I was in a bit of a mood over something else and it hit me wrong. But as I said, if its fellowship only, maybe it should be in bold or something?

BIG BAD WOLF:

U are correct sir and it will be done in the future from me

I removed the same player twice now without saying anything LOL

Actually it would be just easier for the creator to just remove the person and not say anything - To let them know is just being a little more nicer! :-)

Seems like you could add a variable to change the ratio based on how many people sign up too.
x = starting amount
b = bonus amount
n = number of players entered
c = constant to divide the number of players

1) First pond:

c = b X n ÷ x
c = 500 X 249 ÷ 20000
c = 6.225

2) Czuch's 19000 first bid pond, makes x = 1000
Note there's also less players in this game, but the bonus is the same.

c = 500 X 16 ÷ 1000
c = 8.000

If this has any correlation to how the game is played, then what Czuch has done (by design or not), is modify the original Pond game to make a smaller version that should play near the same. Though the bonus is going to figure hugely in the game from the start as it is now slightly more than ½ the amount of points the leaders have.
It seems to me that the most important variable of the game is the amount of players in relation to the ratio of bonus to starting amount. It'll be interesting to see how these two games play out. I'm in them both and will see first hand. Of course the various people involved and what happens along the way will make the game what it is.
Perhaps the game's starting point could be based on the number of players signed up using a constant of the game creator's chosing. I kind of like the table Bry and BigBadWolf have thought up. It'd be easy to look at the table and pick the values that one would like. As we get more experience playing this game, we should be able to make choices the will give us the kind of game we would like to play. A slow calculating game or a fast gambling game. Use of a table along with a variable for the number of players and you could have it set how you want and not need to bother with capping the amount of players except to limit the number of days a game will take to play.

MidnightMcMedic:

If this is yelling ((( According to the "TITLE" and "DESCRIPTION" of the pond, Its for "JUNGLE WARRIORS" fellowship only.
Please remove yourself from the pond.

TY

http://brainking.com/game/Pond?g=44&trnst=0)))

Then I would like to know what you think is nice.

LOL