Game ID: 5145888, Match ID: 543045
this time for a lot of wasted moves.

coan.net: coan; agree with everthing you've written! Especially about me using auto-pass, even if my opponent doesn't want to.

pgt: How about that, fencer!!??

I'm caught again, rolling dice and no way of getting on. I face another four/five throws of wasted time.
Fencer, please could you put in a choice of auto-pass or double on the first blocked throw.

grenv: 'autopass or double' would be fine; that would sort out the problem very well. So would your other suggestion about resigning and offering one point. Both great ideas.

pgt: agree completely about the gammon situation; what we need is for the player who is bearing off to be able to finish the game, when he reckons the chance of a gammon has disappeared. That is what happens in over the board play.

Could auto-pass be extended to include situations where we are in baulk, have to roll the dice but cannot get back on, because the oponent's home squares are blocked.
I know that there is a sentiment that you may want to double. I cannot conceive of a position, where a double would be wise.

Fencer: Ok, thank you for that link to Info. I can well understand your improvement here.
One thing; the Info refers to a filter above the game list to get the same results. Hanged if I can find that fikter; sorry, probably male tunnel vision. Where is it?

IWe used to be able to sort our games by oppoenent, game, time remaining, etc. That option seems to have disappeared. Or should I be resetting something.
it was a good feature, which I would like to have back again.

wetware: le size was 152 games; I wrote 'seem to' but honestly, just haven't seen any identicals in the last 25 games or so.
What is your different problem?

Fencer: Well done, fencer; the identicals seem to have disappeared.

Fencer: There is nothing I (or you) can do about Libya or Japan! I cannot fix the universe or the debt induced crash. So, let us attend to the things we can fix, like making coffee or playing backgammon. Don't you take this great site of yours seriously?

wetware: I've just got caught in a game, where I have to throw but cannot get on. i'm utterly fed up with having to make a useless move! What a waste of time.

For some time now, I have felt that my opponent's and my opening moves were identical. I shared this view with Walter Montego and he agreed. We decided that I do a test of 150 games to see how often the opening moves were the same, expecting a result of about 10, at odds of 15/1.
Out of the last 153 of my games, 57 had identical opening moves. Surely, this cannot be right; it needs looking into.

wetware: What are 'anti-jokers'? And you do realise that, as soon as there is a space, you would be rolling the dice again.

grenv: Correct; that is a good option. Gets the game moe like real life.

grenv: Sounds good to me, grenv

Could not auto-pass work, even when you need to roll the dice but there is no way on (ie all the opponent's home squares are blocked). In a real otb game, I would just sit back and wait for the other uy to clear a space. No way do I roll the dice!!

Could we do without 'doubles refused' in Gammon games appearing in 'Events'. The message tells us nothing; all I have to do is delete the messages.

nodnarbo: Was there any response to this request, please?

When I select a game and then see what tournaments I could join, the site shows ALL tornaments, even though where that particular game is 'full'.
It would be very helpful to show only those tournaments where entris for that game are still accepted.

mctrivia: Can you get rid of the 'Castle-Simple-No fonts titles at the top left-hand corner of the Main Page, please?

rednaz23: I see your point; then , perhaps fencer could instal a select button, saying whether the player wants to see ALL tourneys or just those that have vacancies (which is what I want).

If I look up a particular game to join a Tournament, I gat all the Tourneys, including the ones which are 'Full'.
Please could you just show those tournaments which still have spare places.

nabla: I am not asking for the rating changes to be less (if i fall early on in a Pond, I deserve the crash in my rating!!0. What i want is for my new rating to be calculated as soon as I fall. Then I can concentrate on winning some Ponds to restore my rating.

coan.net: In ponds, ratings swing extravangently, especially when you fall in an early round.

I have fallen early on in my Ponds, which have a 7 day time span. That means that my rating will be reduced by something like 250 points in around two months from now. Any wins I might get from now on won't make a shred of difference to that eventual outcome.
Therefore, I urge fencer to calculate a player's rating, as soon as he/she falls into a Pond.

pgt: Rather than saying 'Rubbish', etc. why don't you explain why you don't think it is bridge at all. Playing bridge well is far more than just remembering the cards that have been played.

AbigailII: You could show all the players discards face up; I know it's not the real bridge but what the heck! It's not a major change.

BIG BAD WOLF: Very good idea!

pauloaguia: Totally agree with you; please let us have this feature.

Fencer: and when you turn it on by default, could it be even if a game is in progress? Also, does it have to be for new users? Could not it be in default for everyone?

I am totally fed up with having to roll dice, when my piece off the board has no way of coming back on. Why does my opponent have to agree before I can get an Auto pass?

Fencer: because, when playing Backgammon, I get the 'throw dice' move at the bottom of the screen and don't have to scroll down.

Please could you move this message away from the top of the page (or give us the choice of where we have it displayed)

nabla: I totally support everything nabla writes, especially the welcome comment on brainking's transparency!

Sorry, fencer, I meant 'Autopass!!

Fencer, please may we have Autosave without getting agreement from both players?

pauloaguia: I have just started a cubed Cloning BG game (in Slow Stairs); where the heck is this Autosave feature (I've looked everywhere)

pauloaguia: I was not aware of Autopass - but are you saying that it doesn't apply to a cubed game? If I am stuck in baulk, there's no way I want to double my opponent anyway!!
I like your suggestion that it should not depend upon agreement!! Very sensible.

Inthis game, you can get a piece off the board and absolutely no way of getting it back on. This happens often and it can stay that way for many moves.
Any chance of having an automatic 'Pass' without a player having to make a 'fruitless' move?

Please may we have the row of available colours at the top of the board, rather than at the bottom.
Then I don't need to move my screen down ecvery time I pick a colour.

When you look up a particular game to see what tournaments include it, I suggest that there is no point showing tourns where the game is already running.
Please could we see games where we may join up.

When you look up a particular game to see what tournaments include it, I suggest that there is no point showing tourns where the game is already running.
Please could we see games where we may join up.

When you look up a particular game to see what tournaments include it, I suggest that there is no point showing tourns where the game is already running.
Please could we see games where we may join up.

When one offers a draw, the message to the opponent comes a fair way BELOW the game board; could it not come above, please.
I have often had opponents not accepting the draw offer, clearly because they had not seen the message.

could players who have not visited the site for, say, three months, be removed from Stairs leagues?

mctrivia: You have given me the answer!!
Let the 'doubling' affect just the Action Points.
If the player refuses the double, then the winner just collects 5 points.
If the player accepts the double and then loses, 10 points is DEDUCTED from his Action Points.
If the doubler loses, then 10 points is deducted from his Action Points total.
Perfect (the points may/will be different for pawns but the principle is the same).
Of course, some players may reckon that they will get more move points by playing on than refusing the double; perhaps the rules could NOT count any moves after a double.

gambler104: No joke; it works in Back/Nackgammons.

joshi tm: This 'friendly' atmosphere? How is this enhanced by players who play on and on (and often slowly)? As whopper writes, it never happens in real life!
And to give APs to players who just go on and on; crazy rewards!