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8. 一月 2008, 01:44:10
Purple 
题目: Re: Firefox
Uninvited: A rare combo of tech skills and people skills. Now what do I do about my lame web-tv? lol

8. 一月 2008, 01:42:40
The Col 
题目: Re: Firefox
Uninvited: The site is humming along better tonite.I think I'll take the firefox leap anyway,but I'm a creature of habit,probably the same reason I could never learn to drive standard lol

8. 一月 2008, 01:34:25
Uninvited 
题目: Firefox
Jim Dandy: I have Firefox2 and Internet explorer on my pc.
My games are loading fast tonight, I had it on Firefox and my Ludo games only took one sec. to load all the way, I switched to IE. and the ludo games took four seconds each time.
The point I'm getting at is Firefox is way better and if you don't like it just take it back off your PC.
It's free so you got nothing to loose.

8. 一月 2008, 01:34:08
The Col 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Purple: I think it comes back to what Andersp was saying.You may be a genius in the tech end,but lacking in people skills.The people skills people should do the people stuff.

8. 一月 2008, 01:31:27
Purple 
题目: Re: Love This Quote :)
srnity: Or "If there is no one to moderate..find someone." lol

8. 一月 2008, 01:23:17
srnity 
题目: Love This Quote :)
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This is commonly referred to as Lord Acton's dictum.

8. 一月 2008, 01:18:27
Purple 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Jim Dandy: Some of the more trigger happy ones have been replaced and the current crop doesn't seem to be as egregious. I now moderate or are BB on 8 F/S and I think the old rule is best: He who moderates least moderates best.

8. 一月 2008, 01:13:47
The Col 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: I wouldn't want to paint everyone with the same brush,I have had my own issues in a global mod scenario.There are good and bad apples in every crop,and some don't know how to handle power.

8. 一月 2008, 00:51:11
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Jim Dandy: Nope...they are BKFBI..."Behave or be banned"!!

8. 一月 2008, 00:47:53
The Col 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: I agree 100%,I thought the global mods were his public relations people.

8. 一月 2008, 00:44:18
srnity 
题目: Directions From Eriisa (shows you the path)
Click on Start
Click on Run
Type cmd (in the window)
A black box will open up. This is called a DOS window. At the cursor type in tracert brainking.com and hit enter.

8. 一月 2008, 00:43:48
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Jim Dandy: Its no problem to name at least 10 "programmers" who are giving Fencer "good advice"  but how many good advice about business economy does he get?

8. 一月 2008, 00:39:51
The Col 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Purple: I agree,cashflow is everything,even an installment plan

8. 一月 2008, 00:38:10
The Col 
题目: Re: I had to look to see if we had a game
srnity: I have yet to download it,I'm trying to find the best and newest edition.I think firefox 3 is soon to be released.........the only "hops' I understand are used in beer.

8. 一月 2008, 00:31:58
srnity 
题目: Re: I had to look to see if we had a game
Jim Dandy: Oops, sorry, wasn't thinking about it from that angle I have Firefox, it updates itself automatically, disk clean and defrag are automatically set too - I'm running better this evening then yesterday around this time (first time here today) - any better for you? And how many "hops" did you get, btw?

8. 一月 2008, 00:25:53
The Col 
题目: Re: I think everyone wants to feel appreciated
srnity: I had to look to see if we had a game.The feeling I get is that certain paying customers feel unappreciated,I don't have enough knowledge of the history here to have an opinion if it's warrented.I'm considering dwnloading firefox to see if it improves the speed,I like this site but the current speed is a pain,especially if you want to fire through say 50 moves prior to work

8. 一月 2008, 00:24:17
Purple 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Jim Dandy: If Fencer raised the annual price of a Rook by 10% even..two or three times over the next ten years..then the Black Rook would prove to be a good long term investment. I'm not thrilled by his lack of replies etc. but if he were truly money hungry it wouldn't be so hard to buy memberships for my friends. I don't like PayPal, he won't take hardly anything else, no credit cards, no checks and no place to mail cash. If I ran the site I would have 100 ways to pay, in every currancy, I would accept watches and jewlery, stamps, coins, old tv sets and have P.O. Boxes in every major city. He is impatient (or worse) when he thinks things are not his fault and the members are impatient (or worse) when they think it is. When you play on 4 or 5 sites and only BK is having problems it is a hard sell to convince people it is their browsers fault. On Gold Token there were dozens of people with a dozen different complaints all at once and it turned out that there was only one root cause. Perhaps Fencer could dig deeper to see if something like that isn't going on here.

8. 一月 2008, 00:21:58
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp修改(8. 一月 2008, 00:23:30)

Jim Dandy: Fencer is a very smart guy, he has a brilliant product but often he forgets the fundmental in business..to keep his customers happy. 



 I've seen his 'type" many times,  my last boss in Sweden was very good in his profession but he could ask anyone to "go to h" if he was in that mood.  His carreer ended in 2 bancrupcies :)



I've tried to tell Fencer many times but then someone "pops up" and tell me to stop moaning :)



I do like Brain King but im worried that it wont last too long. Only a question who gets tired first, Fencer or his customers.. 



 


8. 一月 2008, 00:15:42
srnity 
题目: Re: I think everyone wants to feel appreciated
Jim Dandy: I don't have a need to feel appreciated, just a need for certain players to TAKE THEIR TURN in what I personally perceive to be a decent period of time - - - maybe this is why BK is running so crappy for me, I just don't appreciate enough?

8. 一月 2008, 00:12:14
srnity 
题目: Re:
Eriisa: Thank You - how awesome was that?! Sixteen hops total, from PA to Washington DC, to Paris, to Germany, to Prague (no NYC - woohoo) ....... Can you pretty much do that with every site? And do they all "time-out"?

8. 一月 2008, 00:04:03
The Col 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
</b"certain user>: I sense a moral issue here.I think everyone wants to feel appreciated,Fencer included,but the rhetoric has pushed many peoples backs to the corner with no escape in sight.

7. 一月 2008, 23:54:02
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

Jim Dandy: In my case it was meant as a christmas present to me and my wife with a "bonusdeal" (autopass) with Fencer.


I agree, thats no good (secure) investment but you know how we "americans" are at Christmastime..lots of charity !  LOL


 Fencer is showing his gratefulness by calling me "certain user", "Troll", annoying and other nice things...i can live with it  :)


7. 一月 2008, 23:43:35
The Col 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
wetware: How many years does it take before the lifetime membership to begin paying dividands? 10?
Nothing personal to this site,but too much can transpire over that period of time in such an evolving relatively new communication field.Look back 10 years and see how much has changed.As a show of faith it's nice,but maybe not a wise investment

7. 一月 2008, 22:25:45
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

wetware:Yesterday..many posts ago i posted that i "tested" 3 sites from Prag, all of them loaded very fast.


That doesnt tell me that there is a slow connection from Czech to USA. 


Fencer needs to try every possible solution even if it costs money or he is digging Brain King's grave...thats no moaning..thats the truth.


 


7. 一月 2008, 22:01:26
Ewe 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
wetware: I really hope things get back to normal for you soon. I will keep my fingers crossed for you. 

7. 一月 2008, 21:48:03
wetware 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Ewe: Ewe: I can't speak for Andersp, but when I took the life membership plunge, response times seemed relatively quick. I think I even managed to make >500 moves in a day--but now that's just inconceivable.

I'll try to be constructive--or at least informative--by saying that it's only recently (say, 2-3 weeks or so?) that I've had to wait a much longer time for a response, with the browser displaying this status: "Waiting for http://www.brainking.com/...etc..."

This is true whether I'm connected at home via DSL, or at work (on a much speedier system) via T1.

I don't think I can blame my individual PC's, nor ISP's. But maybe I should "Czech" out some other .cz sites to see how connectivity seems from here in the USA Midwest.

7. 一月 2008, 18:08:11
toedder 
题目: Re: Time to take a break.
Eriisa:

7. 一月 2008, 17:53:17
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Ewe: You dont sound bad at all...your constructive attacks are cute :)

7. 一月 2008, 17:50:48
Ewe 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: so again I personally ask you...if you are seriously not happy why are you here? Go to another gamesite! Why pay for the life long membership here if its that bad? Why constantly attack Fencer? Why keep moaning on & on & on & on & on etc etc etc .........................

Last post by me on here because I dont want to sound as bad....

7. 一月 2008, 17:49:58
Pbarb2 
题目: What is speed???
This is funny..Seconds to play a turn? I just wish all of you could play Webtv for 1 day. You would think your PC is the fastest thing ever. BTW my speed has never changed. It is slow all the time...but it is good we can play here.

7. 一月 2008, 17:42:12
Mort 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: Well the speed difference here between IE and Mozilla is BIG.

Oh well.

7. 一月 2008, 17:39:39
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

Jules: I could make a Mozilla video too, no difference :(


And yes..i clean/defrag, if that was the problem then everything should be slow


7. 一月 2008, 17:34:54
Mort 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: Ahhh I just saw your problem. You are using IE not Mozilla. IE is slow on this site, while Mozilla is much much faster.

7. 一月 2008, 17:29:58
Mort 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: I expect so. But I got the feeling it's more then just the route taken.

Do you clean you comp on a regular basis? Defrag?

7. 一月 2008, 17:27:19
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Jules:  Do you think Brain King can survive if he only can provide good speed to Europe?

7. 一月 2008, 17:22:42
Mort 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: Ours use to be like that.. sometimes. Then we installed window washer... It cleans the junk that you get from browsing, etc.

.. Now it's rarely slow.

... Plus it could be the USA circuit.

7. 一月 2008, 17:14:09
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

Ewe: LOL..a very constructive post!!


Want something more constructive?


Everything costs money, even good service.  Take a look at "Player list"   Of 1226 pages are 16 (sixteen!!) paying members.


Fencer needs more money....how?   Thats easy.....Encourage more people to pay..  16 of 1226 is a p in the Ocean imo.


The price isnt so high, even people with "personal reasons" can afford it


 


7. 一月 2008, 17:13:57
Mort 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: I'll pay £22 for a years mem. My speed has been fine.

7. 一月 2008, 17:02:43
Ewe 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: you are like a jack russell at the ankles! Why dont you just give it a rest? You havent said anything, not ONE thing constructive! Why are you still here? I would of thought you would of left by now if you are this unhappy here.....how weird you stay!

I havent paid for a membership here for personal reasons, absolutely NOTHING to do with this site or with YOU for that matter.

I suggest you change the stuck record!!

7. 一月 2008, 16:58:48
Andersp 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

Jules: And how many more rooks do you think he'll get with this crap?


Not even you or Ewe want to pay full price as the site is now


7. 一月 2008, 16:48:21
Ewe 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Jules: exactly & he would moan about that aswell no doubt!!

7. 一月 2008, 16:43:55
Mort 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: It would be us that would have to pay for it through higher membership costs.

7. 一月 2008, 16:38:19
tyyy 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Ewe: maybe not, Comcast Cable just raised our prices

7. 一月 2008, 16:35:44
Ewe 
题目: Re: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.
Andersp: do you want to pay for it then???

7. 一月 2008, 16:28:30
Andersp 
题目: but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

Finally you agree...there is a solution but you dont want to pay for it


7. 一月 2008, 15:33:52
coan.net 
题目: BrainKing to load faster
I myself have speed issues from time to time, but I think it is fair to say that Fencer can't do much about it since the problem lies outside of the server that he maintains.... but at the same time the user can't do much since it lies outside of the house we live in. But I did write some tips awhile back which have helped me with some of my speed issues:

Computers (coan.net, 2007-03-12 20:16:01)

The only tip that I would add to that would be on the message boards, change the "Messages per page" to a lower number. (The less amount of data on the page - the less that has to flow past those "slow" points in between BrainKing & you.)

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = == = = = = =

I would still like to suggest to Fencer about a "very basic" version of BrainKing - a version that will have just the basic information - just enough to play games and such. (with a link back to the full version when they need more information). Yea, normally when things are fast - those "extra" things will take about 1/2 of a second extra to load - but when users encounter that "slow" point - those extra things could easily take 5-10 seconds longer to load.... and if you could take that extra information out, then even though the site will still be as quick - it will look to the user to be extra fast since they will have less data to wait on through those slow points of the internet.

7. 一月 2008, 14:07:32
Fencer 
题目: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
AbigailII: I have promised to be nice and not to provoke any further flamewars, so please forgive me if I don't answer the first question about keeping current customers and attracting new ones. I have my numbers and my opinion.

Regarding the second question, I haven't probably made the exact expression - of course it's only up to us where the firewall is connected to but, just in order to get a faster line, we moved our servers to another serverhousing company last year. Our meters say that the upstream line is fast enough to ensure a very good response, at least where it can reach. Of course, there is a possibility have our servers hooked at a dedicated super fast mega line, but it is not worth a tenfold of the current monthly fee I am already paying. Expenses must be reasonable too.

7. 一月 2008, 13:48:45
AbigailII 
题目: Re: Is it just me? or is this site slower than a cheapskate at the checkout counter
Fencer: Whatever happens OUTSIDE BrainKing, i.e. on the way to the user's web browser, is not (and cannot be) our problem.

Well, if your goal is to keep your current customers, and to attract more, unsatisfied customers should be your problem, whether you can do something about or not, and whether the problems are real or imaginary.

Fencer: Our power ends at the outgoing port of our firewall.

Yes...., but, where your firewall ends is something you can do about. If there's a network problem, and that problem is caused by your upstream provider, then you aren't entirely powerless. You could switch provider, or get a faster pipe. I'm not saying you should, or that it's wise business wise, just pointing out that just brushing it off with "oh well, nothing we can do" is a bit short sighted. If Disney had build Disneyworld at the end of a dirt road, and people would complain it's hard to reach, Disney wouldn't say "oh, but the lines in the park are short, and it isn't our problem there's only a dirt road to our park".

A website cannot control the speed of the Internet, but it can decide where it connects to the Internet.


7. 一月 2008, 13:18:40
Ewe 
题目: Re: 100 messages to read!
pauloaguia: yes thats a great idea & hopefully it would stop the moaners saying the SAME thing over & over OR they could just choose to play somewhere else

7. 一月 2008, 13:00:47
pauloaguia 
题目: 100 messages to read!
on this Board alone. And most of them bickering and repeat complaints that should be known by now that take nowhere but to situations like this...

I'd just like to make a suggestion: rather than loosing your temper every time you finally decide to reply to this issue, why not take the opportunity (since you're writing that article anyway) and post a proper FAQ entry on this subject. I mean, this has come up so many times I think it really earned the status of one of the most frequently asked questions in this site. Placing it on the FAQ would also make it translatable (since BrainKing.info and BrinRook currently aren't). You can even take the opportunity to collect some of the comments that have been posted are all these times and add some troubleshooting like using pings and tracerts to learn a little bit more about one's own network. It's a FAQ entry, you can make it as technical as you like... and update it easilly with suggestions from others too...

Next time someone starts the issue again simply anybody could simply post a link to the FAQ entry instead of what may look like a rude comment...
Yes, I know it won't stop people from asking and complaining, but having a place to reference them to may prevent so many of these kind of arguments...

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