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5. октомври 2004, 17:05:21
txaggie 
Относно: question about the traps
In the rules, it states that if your animal is standing in an opponent's trap, it can be killed by eaten by any opponent animal. But my question is this: If the opponent's animal is in the trap first, will my animal be eaten if I move into the trap, or does the normal strength order apply if I am attacking?

3. октомври 2004, 15:18:06
ughaibu 
Good point about the elephants, I never noticed that as a justification.

3. октомври 2004, 14:53:48
redsales 
everyone always assumes all chess is based on Indian variants because of the elephant. Yet the chang (xiang) character in changgi and xiangqi means elephant, which were once native to Western China, where the border is shared in modern times with India. It is unlikely that border was sacrosanct through the ages, and in fact, having visited there, the Chinese there are of blood so mixed that they mistook me for one of them. The mongolian empire pushed the border much farther West than modern days, so who really knows? I am content to call Jungle and all Asian chess a Sino-Indo mixture. If I'd only asked around more when I was there, I could have some good third-hand information.

3. октомври 2004, 11:18:55
ughaibu 
Last night I asked a Chinese friend about this game and to illustrate I started drawing out a board. It was interesting that even as I started drawing it he still thought I was talking about tsiang ki, normal Chinese chess and it occured to me that the fixed nature of the den and the surrounding traps are very similar to the palace and palace guards in tsiang ki and there's the further similarity of the lakes with the river. At first impression this seems a strong indicator that the game is of Chinese origin, a simplified children's version of the "adult" tsiang ki, not Indian, so I'm interested in the sources that give it as Indian. However, if jungle pre-dates tsiang ki, another possibility is that tsiang ki arose from a synthesis of jungle with chaturanga or mak ruk. There's a tendency for historians to want a simple linear progression in the history of "chess" so it's interesting that Chinese and Korean chesses show characteristics of jungle as well as the more typical chess characteristics, yet Japanese and pre-renaissance European chess share elements from mak ruk. It seems to me likely that there was something of a flux of co-existing games centred loosley around Burma before they took on their different fixed forms with further migration.

1. октомври 2004, 17:06:54
CaoZ 
Относно: Jungle
In the jungle all the animals have a number the big number like stratego win over the small numbers, with an exeption, the rat can capture the elephant but not from water. like the spy in stratego can kill the number 1. only the rat and can kill the elephant and of curse the other elephant who atacks first.
Elephant (8)
lion (7)
Tiger (6)
Panther (5)
Dog (4)
Wolf (3)
Cat (2)
rat (1)

the tiger and the lion can jump over the water.

1. октомври 2004, 12:08:10
bumble 
I've just discovered that. He runs away. Trust me to get the cowardly lion.

1. октомври 2004, 10:39:52
Fencer 
Lion cannot attack elephant.

30. септември 2004, 18:53:53
ughaibu 
It's in order, stronger animals beat weaker animals, the only exception being that a rat beats an elephant. Strongest to weakest: elephant, lion, tiger, leopard, dog, wolf, cat, rat.

30. септември 2004, 10:53:03
farmer sam 
Lions can kill tigers but I don't think tigers can kill lions.

30. септември 2004, 10:05:53
calikitten 
Относно: lions and tiggersssssss, lol
are lion and tiggers equal? can they kill each other?or can they only kill there own species?thank you

29. септември 2004, 10:07:18
ruby2 
thanks ughaibu

29. септември 2004, 09:13:04
ughaibu 
Yes.

29. септември 2004, 02:00:29
ruby2 
Относно: lion v elephant
if a lion attacks an elephant - does it die?

27. септември 2004, 17:50:20
DrRobinson 
lol.....

27. септември 2004, 00:23:45
Retired on 2700 
Good job my dog Mabel isnt up against a wolf, its only a little Yorkshire Terrier! Bless her! :-D

26. септември 2004, 21:08:40
DrRobinson 
Well it all depends on the wolf..heehehe

According to wha tI have read I think they are the same. :o)

26. септември 2004, 20:55:09
coan.net 
So is the dog suppose to be "stonger" then a wolf?

26. септември 2004, 14:44:04
ughaibu 
Yes and pieces only move one space at a time so the traps are on the way to the dens.

26. септември 2004, 14:01:14
WhisperzQ 
Относно: Couple of questions
Can a mouse capture another mouse in the water?
Csn a piece jump into the lair from any distance or does it need to stop in the trap first ... for example in the rules sample board showing captures if it were white's move could the white wolf win by moving into the black lair?

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