http://www.propublica.org/special/earmark-creep-in-the-stimulus-package-090202

I especially like 88 million to move an office,

I have deleted some post, some were mine, none had anything to do with politics

All post must now be approved until AD decides to change it back.
This board is for political discussion and debate.
IT IS NOT A BOARD TO CARRY OUT FEUDS
This has been going on for a couple of days with multiple people, If you cannot discuss or debate a topic without getting personal, I'd suggest you take it off your favorite list and not visit here
Also, not every statement that people make are personal jabs, if you're that over sensitive to remarks (from other cultures) maybe this isn't the board for you.
Remember that people from all over the world visit here and what is rude in one place may not be in another or vice a versa and if we went pc to everybody's sensitivities, all post would probably have to be deleted

The Usurper: this reads like the stimulus package

The Usurper: It sure doesn't mean 900 billion in pork,
Is says promote (make policy that is non intrusive, nor over taxing) not provide or in other words give

The Usurper: The Constitution of the United States of America

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The Usurper: And much of the blame for the poor is liberalism, putting them on welfare in the first place.
You see the founding fathers thought long and hard before writing"..Provide for the common defense and Promote the general welfare". but liberal government wants to downsize the military while expanding welfare. just the opposite of what this country stands for

The Usurper: but he did not say period to that sentence. It's just like you trying to take Limbaugh's statement out of context,

Bernice: Just like Rush Limbaugh

The Usurper: "You can succeed if you get educated and work hard, period"
and just what part of that statement do you not agree with?

The Usurper: absolutely

The Usurper: It sounds like a statement taken completely out of context, just as Obama took a quote of him explaining the Mexican governments policy on immigration and made an out of context ad making is sound like that was him saying it about mexicans. I'm sure that if you were to print (or even better actually listen) to the whole paragraph, you would find that he's proving that republicans have more compassion for the poor than the dems

ustica tnp: Does Cris Mathews give you tingles up your leg?

Artful Dodger: the court threw out the Pennsylvania case that was before the election siting that the prosecutor had no standing to sue, last I eard, Judge Roberts allowed California suits to go on as they were brought by legislators and had standing, but the last I heard anything was a couple of days before the inogeration

Mousetrap: with the intense heat melting the beams, the weight of the floors above the crash made the top floors fall on it then it was like a pancake theory the rest of the way down, imagine a brick dropping down on a three story card house, they are going to go straight down

Bernice: It was over budget, one of the cuts was in the asbestosis retardant that was around the main beams, they stopped using it somewhere around the 65th floor, not exactly sure which one

Artful Dodger: there have been many such law suits, especially in Pennsylvania and California most of them before the election were thrown out, I know some after the election have been allowed to go forward but haven't heard much of anything lately

Artful Dodger: You forgot that the levy's in N.O. were demolition ed by navy seals, a second shooter on the grassy knoll, Area 51, miniature cameras built into everyone's t.v.'s, and of coarse, the roadrunner paid off Acme

Artful Dodger: Rosie's gone but Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts have entered the room

The Usurper: I'll say it for Bill Clinton since he isn't here...
"HOW DARE YOU"

It appears that Obama's approval rating has slipped from somewhere between Messiah and Ghandi down to Mount Rushmore, at this rate he will be considered human by next week and only 6'3'' tall the following week

I was a little disappointed with the 3-D commercials, I thought more things would fly out at you

Artful Dodger: I missed the songs, I was talking in general, as a musician, singing where they slide all over the scale bugs me I think it takes more talent to hold the note

Artful Dodger: I don't, I think songs are sung that way because even tho they have a great voice, they are not capable of holding a note for any amount of time

Czuch: Blame Jimmy

Artful Dodger: 5 % is the magic number, then it will be too late, right now it is at 0.6 %

Artful Dodger: nah, I want to see pelosi and that ceo from meril lynch explain to congress their expenditures, I would love to see her face the American people and explain the reason for choosing the private use of a jumbo jet weekly to cross the country

Artful Dodger: I say send them to Murtha's state, he wanted them, the people can't say anything since they voted for them, so they should be happy to have those terrorist in their back yard

maybe we should just consider them pow's then we wouldn't have to worry about trying them and then we would return them to their home country when the war is over( I mean when they are dead since the war on terror will go on forever)

Artful Dodger: what, you don't picnic with bombs strapped to your belt and a bazooka slung over your shoulder in the middle of a war zone?

Pedro Martínez: hmmm, 6 years as compared to 10-15 or 25 years, 6 years/'10-15 or 25, hmmm. 6/10-15 or 25....
and your complaint was?

Pedro Martínez: I tell you what, If I ever decide to attack your country in a terroristic way and get caught, I won't complain to anyone how your country addresses my future, fair enough?

Pedro Martínez: They are not afforded constitutional rights as they do not fall under U.S. jurisdiction. but they are military combatants fighting against military targets thus they fall under military jurisdiction

Pedro Martínez: The only reason for this presidential declaration is to include these prisoners along with regular military prisoners since they don't wear uniforms or fight with conventional means. There is a president for this action, during WW2 germans infiltrated the united states and were captured and were detained the same way

Pedro Martínez: http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/blpresidentorder.htm

Pedro Martínez: they are not because they are enemy combatants and as such fall under military justice

Pedro Martínez: #1 should say in America, American citizens are granted a fir trial before they are convicted of a crime
#2 should be They don't agree that they all are deserving of a trial in an American court

Czuch: First of all, he didn't upstage me, I had to go and give my support to China at Wallyworld.(there now it is on topic)
second, this is the third most read board right now
third, all public boards are monitored as close as possible to stop mainly flaming from escalating and crossing over to other boards (remember what it was like before globs?)

anastasia:

Czuch: How about it comes from me, I back Rod up on this, and I post a bit more often

Artful Dodger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKX6luiMINQ

the video distorts the mood,by adding things that were not at the roast but the jokes were,
personally I have no problem with them and I'll bet most army personal would'nt have a problem with the actual jokes

Artful Dodger: It was at that press club roast, 4 1/2 years ago, the same one that Obama and McCain did a couple of months ago

Artful Dodger: Thats just about the way it was explained on the news, Obama would be president officially even tho he hasn't taken the oath yet

Czuch: Biden

coan.net: I can tell you from inside information that FEMA is much better now

anastasia: Do you understand that we live in the UNITED STATES of America? Not the Dictator ship of America

anastasia: It would have against the law for Bush to take control before the Gov of La asked for it. He asked for the Gov to ask, and she refused. Miss and Ala ask for it before it hit and the Government was ready, try again.

This conversation reminds me of a 96 year old client I had 8 years ago, she said "I don't trust Bush, he looks funny." Of coarse when she was saying this I was staring at her mouth that had 4 teeth, two on the top of one side and two on the bottom on the other side, sort of like a crooked pumpkin.

so you say you slept thru 2008, no problem, click here
http://www.unclejayexplains.com/media/UJ%2012-22-08.wmv