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 Five in Line

Discuss about five in line game or find new opponents. (Also Pro and Swap five in line discussion.)


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17. декември 2004, 23:57:05
Dawn 
Nothingness...
Here white moves first and black wins a stalemate.
At IYT black moves first and white wins a stalemate.

17. декември 2004, 15:03:30
Nothingness 
Относно: advantage
mainly since first move wins most of the games its is such a huge advantage to go first that if you are able to draw the game with the 2nd color you deserve the win. im curious how the top players in the world play when they move 2nd.

14. декември 2004, 17:48:58
Pafl 
Nothingness: The "serious" matches on this site (between opponents who are good enough to use the advantage of the 1st move) are alway 2game matches with alternating colours ... which pretty much solves it :-)

13. декември 2004, 22:23:55
Stevie 
But surely a draw is just that...A draw, so why should one of the players win?

12. декември 2004, 23:20:21
Nothingness 
Относно: question about rules
why dont white win if its a drw at the end like you do on iyt? since black has a huge advantage by going first white desereves the win for a draw.

20. август 2004, 23:16:58
BuilderQ 
Относно: Document about First Player Advantage

5. август 2004, 17:10:11
niicegiirll 
swap is very funny and give to this game more openings,not only closed game and ofcourse if standard opening good looking in some corner,like hungarians specialties:-)btw but there is no players skill for this:-)

7. юли 2004, 20:04:21
soul reaper 
Относно: re: swap
The easiest way is do force 1st player to do all 3 moves, then 2nd player to choose the color, this has been done on polish site www.kurnik.pl and work fine there. And swap really makes the game much more balanced.

11. май 2004, 15:15:55
mmammel 
Относно: Re: swap
Yes, I think the swap version would make it more fair, and yes, the restriction on the second player's first move MUST be included if this version is to be implemented.

17. април 2004, 13:37:13
VikingX 
Относно: "Swap" 5-in-line
I would like to see the "swap" version of 5-in-line at BK. The swap completely takes away 1st player`s advantage and would require only VERY little modifications to the current version.
The swap-version is simply regular 5-in-line with 2. player having an option of choosing whether he wants to play as black or white after total of 3 moves have been made. I personally think that 2nd player`s 1st move should be restricted so that it cannot be made OUTSIDE the same 5x5 center square inside which 1st player`s 2nd move cannot be made in Pente or pro-gomoku. Without this restriction player 2 could make his first move into 1 of the corners and get the advantage to himself.
Even in pro-gomoku the 1. players advantage is very big, but not so with the swap.
Let`s hear some comments...especially about the restriction for 2. player which I proposed here.

13. април 2004, 20:14:42
Jason 
Относно: Section 1
sorry but i forgot about the 2nd move restriction . so i resigned my games ... totally slipped my mind ..
Jason.

1. април 2004, 17:00:01
VikingX 
Относно: Section 1
At my request, Fencer has just fixed the standings in section one. Jason and nicegirll both are now declared winners.
A great final coming up after Duke and I have finished our games in section2.

19. януари 2004, 21:21:22
VikingX 
Относно: Tournament announcement
Player Sowa has not used the 2. move restriction in at least 3 of his tournament games as white in section 2 of the tournament.

This is against the rules of the tournament and therefore, all games played by him and against him will not be a part of this tournament. I will manually count the points in section 2 and if this produces a different section winner than the automatic system, I will arrange a real final for the real section winners.

Those who are playing against Sowa in the tournament can continue their games or resign them early, when it should not affect the ratings. In any case, those games are no longer a part of the tournament and will not affect who will be announced as the winner.

17. януари 2004, 08:59:04
VikingX 
Относно: Invitational Top25 five-in-line tournament.....
...is about to start!
I want to remind all players that the 2. move restriction for white must be used in all games.
If some player doesn`t use the restriction I will manually count the points leaving out all games played against that player, and if necessary, arrange a new final round into which the "real" finalists will be invited.

Good luck to everybody.

23. декември 2003, 17:01:51
VikingX 
Относно: Invitational Top25 five-in-line tournament
It is time to find out who is the best five-in-line player at Brainking. To avoid "surewin" -moves the 2. move restriction (like in Pro Gomoku) will be used for player1 (white). If you are not familiar with this restriction you can find it explained in rules description for Pente. All five-in-line players in Top25 have been invited (including provisional ratings). If anybody outside the top25 feels like he/she deserves to be playing in the tournament, feel free to ask me for an invite. Games start 16.1. so that pawns will have time to finish their on-going games.

29. август 2003, 06:44:05
Princess Kammy 
workin on it for ya

29. август 2003, 06:38:56
SonAnh 
Is there any prize tourney in the whole ?

24. август 2003, 13:19:22
Princess Kammy 
no problem any time :)

24. август 2003, 13:11:14
ANIMALxxxx 
thx Lonestar
ummmm... Princess Kam???

24. август 2003, 13:06:26
Princess Kammy 
howdy all.....i have a tourney that has five in a line but not a prize tourney sorry...since i see you would like a prize tourney i will see what i can do :)

24. август 2003, 08:49:04
Kevin 
If someone starts one. It's up to the creator to provide the prize, so if you can find someone who'll create one, then yes...there will be :-) lol

24. август 2003, 07:59:44
ANIMALxxxx 
is there ever a five in line prize tourney?

23. август 2003, 22:02:00
Princess Kammy 
Относно: Tourney
hello all :) FOr all interested in a five in a line tourney there is one waiting for you. Name is We're Off and Running.

Have a great day!!

20. август 2003, 19:36:51
Kevin 
Yes, it happened to everyone.

20. август 2003, 13:34:38
SonAnh 
What happened yesterday? some my game moves were back, and they knew what I wanna do... did it happen to someone else ?

16. август 2003, 11:38:30
SonAnh 
If I had 1 million USD I'll bye 1 Brain Rook and do other things :P

16. август 2003, 11:36:31
Fencer 
SonAnh: It can be yours for one million USD :-)

16. август 2003, 11:34:01
SonAnh 
plz borrow me your White Brain King Mr. Fencer, I would join more than 1 tournament then :P

15. август 2003, 03:45:34
Princess Kammy 
Относно: Re:
wow that game is going strong :) good luck to both of you :)

14. август 2003, 08:53:31
Backoff 
WOW

14. август 2003, 08:50:30
Fencer 
This game.
Full board ;-)

14. август 2003, 06:31:55
Backoff 
what's the most moves made in a game. I have one that's at turn 46 right now...

10. август 2003, 05:34:20
Princess Kammy 
good evening....hope all is great for everyone :)

9. август 2003, 00:21:52
SonAnh 
Lonestar73: I'm just interesting.
Re: Does white...:Yes,your impression is so rite, that call surewin,something like we've discused but nothing funny starting play using that open.
Kacper, look at the way you piece 5in line is so perfect, but never seen you been here,opine something babie :-)

8. август 2003, 23:02:35
berengeria 
Относно: Re: Does white...
this was a problem in checkers, i recall, and in high level games, the first move or something is chosen by lot.
someone mentioned white having to play his second move three rows from the first. does this resolve the difficulty?

8. август 2003, 22:13:46
KeenEyedSwede 
Относно: Re: Does white...
Yes. As I believe have allready been pointed out earlier in this forum, there is proof of a sure win for the starting party of the game. This without any restrictions; sad but true. Therefor if equal conditions are valued one should preferably play a game like pro gomoku or, if one gets the chance to, renju.

8. август 2003, 20:22:00
berengeria 
Относно: Does white always win?
I get the impression from the disussions here that, given best play, white will always win? Is this so? Thanks.

8. август 2003, 05:24:23
Princess Kammy 
Относно: Re:
what are you referring to in regards to 23xx nicks? are you looking for someone in particular?

8. август 2003, 05:12:32
SonAnh 
Where are 5-in-line 23xx nicks ? why I dont see any1 in here.

8. август 2003, 03:09:15
Princess Kammy 
good evening all..how is everyone? :) hope everyone is staying cool or at least cooler than i am...109 here today...want fried eggs just crack em on the sidewalk lol

6. август 2003, 16:51:08
SonAnh 
Относно: Renju
Yep, double 3's wouldnt win and you cant make 3x3 but 3x4.

5. август 2003, 10:35:08
stej 
Anyone who would like to play 5 wins match with pro gomoku rules? Invite me..

4. август 2003, 18:27:09
Tactician 
Относно: Re: Pro Gomoku
Renju has restrictions about types of wins doesn't it like double 3's etc?

4. август 2003, 18:25:45
SonAnh 
Относно: Pro Gomoku
No, Pro moku is different, Pro moku rules are the same as normal moku but the second white piece must be placed at least 3 rows from the first one

3. август 2003, 21:53:54
Tactician 
Относно: Re: Pro Gomoku Renju?
Is Pro GoMoku have the same rules as Renju?

1. август 2003, 13:03:19
qil 
I asked Fencer for new game - Pro gomoku (just 5 in line, pro rules).

30. юли 2003, 21:51:38
SonAnh 
:-) just discussions coz we cant change anything. But I think 6 not win is more better coz a game will be more complicated and...

30. юли 2003, 17:48:32
Connors 
Относно: 5+ in line
I think it should be changed, you're really only supposed to place 5 pieces. In fact, as many players know who play at other sites, one of a players DEFENSES is to force a sixth piece placement, since it is not a win.On the other hand, i believe i have only won a handful of games w/ 6 pieces, it doesn't really happen all that often.

30. юли 2003, 08:23:50
SonAnh 
five in line is different from six in line, and different from five or more in line too, so dont look at the name of game, I'm just sayin' about the rules

29. юли 2003, 21:02:32
Kevin 
If you notice, it isn't go-moku...it's Five in Line...

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