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20. март 2003, 09:43:20
Fencer 
Относно: Re: another solution?
Yes, it is possible but each Add Game click would require the page reload (it must be in JavaScript without page reload). I will think it over.
About tournaments - it must be tested but I think that the main functionality is correct, I hope ;-)

20. март 2003, 09:42:32
Dmitri King 
Относно: Re: FAQ
Jondownie, I agree with you, to a certain extent. I think players should still have the OPTION of creating a match with the current rules. But, I would also like to be able to do the following:

invite a player to a 2 game match, one of each color. Both games count for all purposes.
Pente and Keryo pente are usually played in pairs, so this is just a shortcut for having to send two separate invites--- Also, thep layer, under the current system, can decline the invite for the game where he is black, and accept the one where he is white.

Fencer, I think this would be a valuable addition ot the site, it is one of the few areas where I feel the site is lacking, because just about everything else here is great. Of course, I think priority should be given to enabling 2 game sets as an option for tournaments as well.

20. март 2003, 09:40:12
coan.net 
Относно: another solution?
I'm not sure exactly how to program it - but have 1 list box on the left of the screen (with all the games in it) - on the right side of the screen have an empty list box (where you add which the games) - and in the middle you have "Add Game" and a "Remove Game"

If I explained what I'm thinking in my head well enough, would that solve the problem? Then a user can just select 1 game at a time, add it to the second list box.

And I see that you are adding/testing the 2 games (1 of each color) thing for the tournaments - GREAT! Good Job! :-)

20. март 2003, 09:18:46
Fencer 
It is WebTV's fault, not yours :-)

20. март 2003, 08:35:03
Dave392 
Относно: Re:
sorry i couldnt be more help

20. март 2003, 08:31:00
Fencer 
Thanks Dave. I will find another solution.

20. март 2003, 08:30:36
ellieoop 
Относно: Re:
when we delete our msgs, we click more than one box, why would that be any different, or am i still not understanding?

20. март 2003, 08:30:10
Dave392 
Относно: Re:
not really no

20. март 2003, 08:27:49
Fencer 
Erm, perhaps I should be more specific. Sorry :-) Here is the example - when you define a new tournament, you have to select one game type for it. You simply click on the combo box and select one game type, only one. But I would like to change the "combo box" to a "list" where you should be able to select more game types at onces. With Internet Explorer etc. it is possible to click on several items with holding down the ctrl key and the result is that more than on item in this list is selected.
It is possible with WebTV too?

20. март 2003, 08:19:15
Dave392 
Относно: Re: WebTV question
he means something like more than 1 item at the same time... like IE (Internet Explorer) you can have many things (windows) goin at once... unlike MSN TV (Formerly WebTV) where we can only do ONE thing at a time...

I hope this is what you are asking Fencer :-)

20. март 2003, 06:49:15
CleverHunk 
Относно: Re: FAQ
I agree,the winner's rating should not drop,why should it,the player earned it.If you are willing to play,you are willing to lose.losers should not whine about it..learn from it...have a positive atitude = do better the next game.isn't that what life is all about?nitzche said"whatever doesn't kill me,just makes me stronger".remember,its just a game,and we are all mature enough to know that & deal with it(I hope).

20. март 2003, 06:36:40
CleverHunk 
Относно: Re: is it just me?
some things are better slow[wink]..but not servers

20. март 2003, 02:32:35
NOT a floosie 
Относно: Re: WebTV question
Fencer, what do you mean by selecting more than one item on a list? With web, it is only possible to do one thing at a time on the screen. Not like windows.

19. март 2003, 22:52:58
jondownie 
Относно: Re: FAQ & Multi Game matches
It all depends on the ratings gap. What if the reslt overall and the results of the individual games was taken into account?

According to the way ratings work only a 500pt gap should ensure wins all the time so surely over a larger number of games the effect would subside.
Big ratings will usually win one offs but smaller ratings can pull off small shocks.

19. март 2003, 21:32:48
cariad 
Относно: Re: is it just me?
Nope, not just you rabbitoid. It's like walking through treacle here tonight - for me anyway.

19. март 2003, 21:01:05
danoschek 
Относно: Re: is it just me?
indeed some statics perceivable,
despite of my fast connection ... ~*~

19. март 2003, 20:58:40
rabbitoid 
Относно: is it just me?
or is everybody else going in slow motion too?
hey, even GOLDTOKEN is faster tonight

19. март 2003, 20:55:51
CleverHunk 
Относно: hey fencer 8^)
I know you are busy,so if sometime ,whenever,let me know what you think.I have another idea.seems a lot of players here like stats.like the BK ratings,position & most active player.I would be curious to here from users here these stats might be of interest to add beside "most active player":
longest game(most moves in a game)
shortest game(least moves in a game)
most backgammons by a player
most gammons by a player

19. март 2003, 20:45:21
danoschek 
Относно: Re: legal moves in backgammon
if those variations are known before
I have the choice which I prefer to join.
as stated, here the move is legal. we even
have 3 legal names for the same game ...
you don't have to convince me though,
for me, software-dice are illegal ... :D ~*~

19. март 2003, 20:37:02
CleverHunk 
Относно: Re: harley's comment re my idea for multi-reversi...
...ty harley for the positive feedback.multi-player games = interesting strategy & socially fun.I do hope we see some here.

19. март 2003, 20:15:58
blazeinshore 
Относно: Re: Happy Happy Happy
That's great. But go and be "happy happy happy" on the General Chat board rather than on a site related board :))

19. март 2003, 20:03:55
Flippin Maniac 
Относно: Re: FAQ
You say the system is unfair to the lower rated player, But if you were indeed rewarded for winning 2 out of the 5 games then this would be unfair to the higher rated player as this could mean that even though the higher rated player has won the match they could take a drop in their rating.
The BKR state that a winning players rating will not drop.
I think the easiest solution would be to play only single games or alternativley, Make sure you win the match..
:D

19. март 2003, 19:56:50
Dakota Spring 
Относно: Happy Happy Happy
I just thought I tell everyone I was Happy today.
The weathers great and so am I,Happy Happy Happy :)

19. март 2003, 19:30:01
Nikki 
Относно: Re: legal moves in backgammon
You.."suggest keeping both variations.." but in fact, it is not a variation. It is an ILLEGAL move that needs to be corrected. I'm sure chess and checkers players etc. would not be happy if their opponents could have 'variations' in rules which allowed them to do something illegal.

19. март 2003, 18:06:58
ellieoop 
Относно: Re: ctrl key
i have a ctrl key on left of my spacebar, but nothing happens when i click it, but then again , i don't know what's supposed to happen. LOL..

19. март 2003, 17:46:02
Mo 
Относно: Re: WebTV question
Sure....I can select more than one item on a list using my WebTV but not at the same time. I have to make my selection/s one at a time....time consuming but that's how it goes!

19. март 2003, 17:43:21
Mo 
Относно: Re: ctrl key
I have, on this keyboard, a ctrl key on both sides of the spacer bar which is the elongated key on the bottom of your keyboard.

19. март 2003, 17:28:59
ellieoop 
i can very seldom see my online opponents or who is on line. everything is fine, except that. the site is fast. i don't knpw what you mean by the ctrl key.

19. март 2003, 17:18:36
harley 
CleverHunk... multi reversi games?! that would be interesting, it would be difficult not to be completely wiped out with four players though. There would have to be a few changes. If it would work it would be great to see!! And great fun to play!

19. март 2003, 16:24:03
jondownie 
Относно: Re: FAQ
I have just read the FAQ and I would like to suggest that this rule is somewhat unfair. For example if I was an 1800 and I was playing a 2000 and he best me 3-2 in a 3 pointer, my rating would not be affected by the fact that I aactually managed to take two points off him. This is somewhat unfair, especially since FIDE factor in the results of all games, even where they are part of sets such as the last FIDE World Championship.

Perhaps this could be changed so that each subgame is counted for your rating or maybe there could be a facility where you choose whether the results of sub-games or the overall score will be used in rating calculations.

Counting subgames would be better for lower rated players as they would be rewarded for all of their play against high graded players. Otherwise, there is little point in anyone playing a series game against anyone who is 200pts above them or more as there is little chance of them winning overall.

19. март 2003, 16:22:01
Fencer 
Относно: WebTV question
I've got a question for WebTV users - are you able to select more then one item of a list? It is possible with "normal" web browser by holding down the CTRL key but I'm not sure about other devices.

19. март 2003, 15:58:08
Fencer 
It is described at the FAQ page.

19. март 2003, 15:56:49
jondownie 
Относно: Does that mean
that only the overall score ie, wheter I win or lose the match overall will be used for ratings calculation? Or does each match from part of the calculation itself.

Also, if the answer is that only the overall socre counts, wouldn't it just be wiser for players to play individual games first to build up a rating and then longer series?

In OTB chess each game is factored in individially to the ratings.

19. март 2003, 15:40:45
Fencer 
Right.

19. март 2003, 15:26:25
jondownie 
Относно: Okay then
Does that mean it doesn't count for ratings until then?

19. март 2003, 14:39:31
Fencer 
jon: The 52908 game is a part of 5 games match. It will be shown in your statistics after the whole match is finished.

19. март 2003, 13:36:17
jondownie 
Относно: Here are the links
The top two show the menssage I received to show my opponent resigned and the second two are the game archives.

http://brainking.com/game/ReadMessage?mi=128811

http://brainking.com/game/ReadMessage?mi=129459

http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=52908

http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=47761

19. март 2003, 13:25:02
Fencer 
jon: Are you sure that you won both of them? I can see that you've finished two games yesterday but you have lost the second one.

19. март 2003, 13:05:59
jondownie 
Относно: Can I report a bug here?
I havbe won two chess games. Actually I won them both on the same day, but only one appears in my total results. Is there a reason for this? The two results were about 5 hours apart.

19. март 2003, 09:42:40
Fencer 
I really have no time to ask everyone to be nice on discussion boards. I am overloaded with my work on BK and I have to sleep sometimes.
Please, use the General Chat board.

19. март 2003, 08:53:14
blazeinshore 
Относно: Use the General Chat board, not this one!!
I see that danoschek has remained popular as always (not)... but WHY post that stuff here? It's an insult to Fencer and Brainking.com that you (and by "you" I mean anyone who has participated in the recent flame war) chose this board to post your nonsence on, hence shadowing the postings of anyone who wants to post up about brainking.com itself; hasn't that occured to any of you? Least of all because Fencer went to the trouble of supplying us with a General Chat board yesterday. If nothing else you should have enough respect to stay on-topic on THIS board and post your other stuff on the General Chat board.

Blaze

19. март 2003, 08:36:45
Dmitri King 
Относно: LISTEN UP EVERYONE
to everyone flaming Danoscheck for whatever reason... If Danoschek is the poison, then many of thep eople at IYT must be far worse than poison, whatever that is. If any of you don't like what he says, apply Bid Bad wolf's advice that he repeatts over and over (and over and over) AND DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THEM (the posts I mean).

I don't think there is really anything wrong with what he says-- but yet about a half dozen people made dozens of posts jumping all over him...

So everyone chill out. Danoschek may have soem odd posts, but he is usually civil, so I am not sure why he is called a spammer. As for whoever referred to him as "bannedoschek," well, his banning at IYT was total nonsense.

19. март 2003, 08:34:34
CleverHunk 
Относно: fencer,I have another idea for an orig game variant...
...how about a version of reversi 10X10 for more than 2 players...using more than 2 colors.I think the large board would reduce a bit the odds of it ending in a multiple draw.what do you think?
I know,I'm still hinting at multiple player games,but they are fun.

19. март 2003, 05:30:00
CleverHunk 
Относно: yes,I'm OD'ing on the whinning & verbal diarrhea.
ok .ok ...as anyone with any grey cells can assume.all server sites are different.some have good/bad features..as per the individual users opinion.no offense to anyone,but it is not enough to simply say you dont like a particular site.might be in better taste to simply say you prefer a certain site.no need to ramble on for several pages saying nothing of any substance.I hope this board doesnt start to remind me of a adolescent name calling chatroom.

besides,with everything going on in the world today,we could talk about a REAL issue.

19. март 2003, 05:26:52
danoschek 
Относно: well said Bernice :/
Fencer ?? is this tolerable ?

I'm fairly new here ... ~*~

19. март 2003, 05:24:34
TTjazzberry 
Относно: There's that smell again
Like his profile says "my bark cAn be noisy"...nothing BUT noise. This was such a peaceful place, one common element chages all. Keep guessing, hint: no hint.

19. март 2003, 05:18:43
Bernice 
Относно: OH MY GOD
has this place gone mad??????.....I used to look forward to the 4-6 messages that were posted each day onthis board and now find im having to read all sorts of c rap that has nothing to do with anything as far as i can see....Fencer put a stop to the spamming and lets all get on with it:)

19. март 2003, 05:12:17
danoschek 
Относно: Same Ol Song and Dance
indeed TTjazzberry

good subject line !! :D

and if all the games with the only ID
you happen to play here will have the
same result I'll know who you are ... ~*~

19. март 2003, 04:58:12
TTjazzberry 
Относно: Same Ol Song and Dance
...different venue, like a foul smell...lingers on...aimlessly, pointlessly. Yes Danoschimp, problem cant be you, must be the rest of the world.

19. март 2003, 04:29:51
danoschek 
Относно: to rod03801
I cordially second ... it's notorious ~*~

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