Carnie: But you did lol. So much for the sink ship comment and complaining about this site.

Carnie: I agree with Hrqls....dont make it public like some do....he wont answer those ones....but he did say at one stage that there was no more fixing, so really there is no use complaining - only makes him more determined, but keep an eye on your credit card usage...a very close eye....

Carnie: send fencer a private message and he will look into it
give him some time to reply though

I am not aware of anything for you in the USA on the 16th November. But I do know you have Thanksgiving Day coming soon.

crosseyed:

please research it yourself. thank ye

ketchuplover: Oh yes, good meal and good wine and Champagne.

Carnie: PayPal is always safe...more than any other on the net IMO.

ketchuplover: For what?

crosseyed:

Festivus for the rest of us

happyjuggler0:

Mélusine: Lol no my birthday is at the end of May. I hate Christmas.

happyjuggler0:

SL-Mark: The other 364 days I guess we can be intolerant.

crosseyed: Is it your birthday the 16th November ?
Or else, a special event in UK ?
Or else, the day when you send your order form to Santa Claus ?

SL-Mark:

beach: It is the International Day for Tolerance!

http://www.un.org/en/events/toleranceday/

happyjuggler0: Should that be the 17th November?

beach: I will tell you after the 16th November. Don't worry it has nothing to do directly with Brainking.

beach: The 16th is the day we wait to see what happens after the 16th is over!!!

crosseyed:  what happens on the 16th

beach: No one should be pressurised to make more moves because a player only has a few games running and bored because they have too much time on their hands which is why this discussion has arisen once again. I eagerly wait to see what happens after the 16 November.

Aganju: No thank you to the Fisher Clock I got caught out with that without knowing.

Aganju: I liked the last paragraph lol.

Walter Montego: This is a good start, but consider also what kind of game you set up. If people chose 10-wins-match, and the game is one with many moves, it can still drag for years.

But generally, yes, Fisher Clock is the thing to use. You can fine-tune it to your wishes pretty nicely.

Carpe Diem: True but it is futile knowing the history of this site.

Walter Montego:  good response

Fischer Clock is how you do it.
Try this:

Start 4 Days 7 hours
Bonus 1 Day 18 Hours
Max Time 11 days 1

A shorter max will definitely force a faster game. These parameters make the players move three or more times per week. Vacations and weekends have no baring on it. And, as always, the fast players can finish the game in a couple of hours. If someone quits the site, the game will end in 11 days. You can use a longer start time to give more time during a round change or series of games for matches.

Aganju: I don’t like the idea of the blacklist, I hate the idea showing someone guilty, as in court. I prefer an effective action as do not allow to join tourneys or games (for anyone) while you have a game where it is your move. I think it’s short with one game because there’s always an opponent on line. Five games would be perfect. Indeed, with 500 games running, the player will block himself.

crosseyed: Maybe, maybe not. But taking part in the discussion isn't mandatory.  

Carpe Diem: Nothing is going to change so what is the point of people making all these suggestions?

I wonder if removing weekend days would help, or if that would cause more problems than it solves.

pB: i agree that the time per move is a bit vague with the option of weekend days and vacation days added ... if you really want to be naughty you can even switch your weekend days while playing giving you 2 extra days once in a while ... just to frustrate your opponent :-)

about players knowing what they signed up for ... maybe they didnt know at first ... but i believe people learn from experience .. or at least i hope so ... and after some tournaments which are too slow for their taste they will think twice before joining a tournament which might be slow

due to a busy real life i am retiring on this site, and also on dailygammon, just finishing my running games/tournaments ... which migh take years, but i cant stand to lose on timeout :-)
i am only playing now on jijbent.nl (i think the english version is yourturnmyturn.com ?)
i think there the default for tournaments is 1 day per move, and a max 6 day pool
even then tournaments can take quite long

you are/were quite active on dailygammon as well .. what do you think of the timecontrols there ?

out of curiousity : about how many players are we talking who "abuse" the time control on this site ?

if i have an opponent who plays too slow according to my taste (rarely happens, but sometimes it does just before i go on vacation) ... i then send him a polite private message asking him if he could move in my games first

if an opponent sends me a message asking me to move faster, i then make sure i always move first in his/her games before i move in the others

about the speed rating per player: i suggested this years ago as well as i think its very useful and very informative .. but you have to take into account the different game types .. an average speed would make less sense that an average speed per game type