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5. Июля 2011, 00:14:49
Stardust 
Субъект: Re:
Purple: The KM members who beat those programs did so because they were using those programs

4. Июля 2011, 23:55:55
Purple 
Субъект: Re:
Darles Chickens: I had KM members who regularly beat programs. They were that good.

4. Июля 2011, 16:03:24
Darles Chickens 
Сделано для Darles Chickens (12. Июля 2011, 12:48:06)

I stopped playing regular checkers after finding that some of my opponents were using programs such as CakeManchester or Chinook to make their moves. So, I downloaded Cake Manchester, from Martin Fierz's homepage and now, when I want to play a good game, I do it against my machine. What I found a few months ago, was that Martin also developed a suicidal version for his Cake (here known as anti-checkers). I downloaded it too, and after playing some games against it, I found very familiar moves from games I had with two or three opponents, specially from ItsYousTurn.com. I surely hope that people will reconsider the use of such programs in their moves, or there will be no interest at all to keep playing those games here, against real players, when in reality we're doing that against a machine...



By the way, the site to download those programs: http://www.fierz.ch/checkers.htm 


14. Января 2011, 20:42:42
Purple 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Сделано для Purple (14. Января 2011, 20:44:46)
rod03801: Never really checked it out. Thanks

14. Января 2011, 17:59:48
rod03801 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Purple: Well, we have had Stairs for years now. (Same general idea as ladders)

http://brainking.com/en/Stairs

14. Января 2011, 14:21:59
Purple 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
rod03801: Do you think Fencer would reconsider setting up some ladders, maybe in chess, checkers and Backgammon to begin with? Goldtoken and It's Your Turn have them and anything they can do we can do better. Not so?

13. Января 2011, 17:48:35
Gabriel Almeida 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Purple: Anyway, people are free to choose who they wanna play with. For several reasons. Time they use in a game, for example. Or for "friend affinities". Or even other reasons. I like to play against some good players because I trully believe they are "fair players" and I can always learn something with them. I believe they also like to play with me.

13. Января 2011, 17:45:48
Gabriel Almeida 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Purple: I can understand Why... I wouldn't play against you either. Or against Pinchitos, or against Ustica...

13. Января 2011, 17:23:26
Purple 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Hexis: I am speaking in general. I can't rise in the rankings because no top player will play me.

13. Января 2011, 17:12:35
Hexis 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Purple: Do you mean any particular players?

13. Января 2011, 16:36:21
Purple 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
rod03801: Then once every 89 days you can play an EASY win from someone rated 50th and your rating will be unaffected. Too easy to manipulate and I would like stiffer penalties for inactive players.

13. Января 2011, 15:44:20
rod03801 
Субъект: Re: Top Players
Purple: Actually, quite a while ago it was implemented that after 90 days of not completing a particular game, a rook will be hidden on the rankings. Once they complete another game, they "re-appear". You will notice on your own profile, that each game that has a "red" date, you do not have a ranking in.

For pawns, I believe it is 30 days.

13. Января 2011, 14:45:42
Purple 
Субъект: Top Players
What is a person to do when the top player "does not wish to be invited to any games?" He will stay there forever with no one ever having any hope of overtaking him. Makes a maockery of the rankings.

28. Сентября 2009, 14:12:58
AbigailII 
Субъект: Re: Question About the Rules of International Checkers
Helibore: I doubt that is the case. After all, if you make a mistake, and the stones are quickly removed the situation is the same. Furthermore, in any serious competition, players must write down their moves anyway.

No, the reason is that you are not allowed to jump a stone twice. If you make a multiple capture using a queen, if you would remove the stones during the move, it may be that it appears the queen has a free path, instead of being blocked by an already taken stone.

While speaking on this subject, shortly after International and other national checker variants appeared, I asked Fencer to make it on the move confirmation visible which checkers had been taken in this move (for instance, by showing them with a blue border). He answered positively, but it still hasn't happened. :(

25. Сентября 2009, 12:59:22
Helibore 
Субъект: Re: Question About the Rules of International Checkers
MrWCF:

It is because you have to take track of the multiple captures, I guess.
So your opponet can aks you to take the correct jump if you made a mistake.
Were they removed, it is almost impossible to reconsruct and to object.

23. Февраля 2009, 05:35:03
The Usurper 
Субъект: Re: open invites
John Toomey: Games got picked up. Life is good.

23. Февраля 2009, 04:59:52
The Usurper 
Субъект: Re:
John Toomey: Would be better if you'd pick up one of my open invites. lol

23. Февраля 2009, 04:57:49
John Toomey 
Hi all, hope life's good with you!

20. Февраля 2009, 22:17:02
WinterAngel 
Субъект: Thank You ;
Thank,s Rod. Got it now Agian ty.

20. Февраля 2009, 21:08:33
rod03801 
Субъект: Re: Hawaiian Checkers;
WinterAngel: You couldn't have checked correctly. There are Hawaiian Checkers games on each set of stairs on that link. (Except the "cubed" stairs of course, as those are only backgammon games) Once you click the link he provided, you then click on the type of stairs with the time controls that you like. You will see a list which includes every single game Brainking offers. You then join the stairs for that game, and choose someone to play.

20. Февраля 2009, 20:17:19
WinterAngel 
Субъект: Hawaiian Checkers;
I have already checked there none going of that game Thank You.

20. Февраля 2009, 12:47:12
Undertaker. 
Субъект: Re: Hawaiian Checkers?
WinterAngel: Did you try this? http://brainking.com/en/Stairs

20. Февраля 2009, 12:07:39
WinterAngel 
Субъект: Hawaiian Checkers?
Looking for any one who would like to play this game. Not to many play this game.Why?

12. Февраля 2009, 14:27:46
Gabriel Almeida 
Субъект: Re: Question About the Rules of International Checkers
Сделано для Gabriel Almeida (12. Февраля 2009, 14:30:55)

MrWCF: This rule also exist in other variants, like in Portuguese checkers, and it does matter, sometimes. The question is that you can only jump once over each piece, in your move. To guarantee that you respect this, the "mechanism" is that the jumped pieces are only removed in the end of your move. If pieces were removed just after jumped, you would be ignoring that rule.


I don't know if I was clear: the question is not the piece taked (jumped) twice. The question is that a taked (jumped) piece works like a "wall" - that's the spirit of that rule!



 


12. Февраля 2009, 02:54:06
MrWCF 
Субъект: Question About the Rules of International Checkers
In International Checkers, enemy pieces jumped over are not removed until the entire move is completed. 
Why is that?  Since pieces may only be jumped over once, why not remove them as you jump over them.  I could understand if you could jump over a piece more than once; then it would make sense not to remove it until the move was completed. 
Can someone explain the logic behind this rule?

11. Февраля 2009, 13:59:43
Purple 
Субъект: Re: Tiger Checker Club
Tuesday: Not at all. We are all learning.

5. Февраля 2009, 02:28:42
Purple 
Субъект: Tiger Checker Club
We are now accepting applications for checker players.

31. Декабря 2008, 18:35:34
Gabriel Almeida 
Субъект: Re:
david upshaw: Missing 6.30h, in Portugal... Happy 2009 to all of you, too!

31. Декабря 2008, 16:34:39
Undertaker. 
Субъект: Re:
david upshaw: Thanks David, good luck to you too

31. Декабря 2008, 15:12:35
david upshaw 
I want to wish everyone a Happy New Year!

31. Декабря 2008, 14:03:39
Purple 
Субъект: Re: Need Just One More
Purple: If one more person can sign up the tournament will be a go. Anyone can win..so give it a try!

28. Декабря 2008, 16:19:45
Purple 
Субъект: Need Just Two More

28. Декабря 2008, 16:19:37
Purple 
Субъект: Need Just Two More

14. Октября 2008, 08:39:26
aaru 
Субъект: 1500, 10000, 1600
Please sign up -> 1500 ;), 10000 :D, 1600 ;) (single elimination for 8, Fisher's clock 3/0.8/15 with autopass & immediately start)
More informations about Fischer's clock on BrainKing & BrainRook

Hawaiian Checkers - I need 3 players more
&
Checkers - 2
Anti Checkers - 4
Corner Checkers - 5
One Way Checkers - 5
Parachute Checkers - 5
Gothic Checkers - 3
Turkish Checkers - 1
Alquerque - 4
Hawaiian Checkers - 4
International Checkers - 4
Rusian Checkers - 4
Canadian Checkers - 4
Thai Checkers - 5
Brazilian Checkers - 4
Portuguese Checkers - 3
Italian Checkers - 4
Dameo - 4
&
Hawaiian Checkers - 4
& other games

5. Октября 2008, 12:32:05
pattypoo 
Stardust: i have games on this site that are almost 3 yrs old. I just left from looking at their profile, looking at games with me only..in four games i won and one was a draw and the other three were not even finished and they all say he won. tell me how that works.. I hate cheaters.

4. Октября 2008, 01:46:53
John Toomey 
how come some folks, 'badger', can declare draws? why isn't it automatic as per the professional rules?

3. Октября 2008, 02:17:11
Stardust 
Субъект: Re: For Clarity...
Purple: She denied me

3. Октября 2008, 00:42:09
Purple 
Субъект: Re: For Clarity...
Stardust: Badger has the authority to declare the game a draw,

2. Октября 2008, 21:25:41
Stardust 
Субъект: For Clarity...
Because misunderstandings can occur......I am too stubborn to resign an obvious draw against someone who is so small minded to not accept one. I resent the insinuation that the game on gt is anything more than that.

2. Октября 2008, 17:14:20
Gabriel Almeida 
Субъект: Re: Love is in the air?...

Stardust: 3334 is a lucky guy! ;)


John Toomey, you are right. And IYT it's not the only place where it happens: in REAL LIFE (well, I'm talking in classic checkers case), those are "draw rules" wich are described and used. And some other rules are available (Once again, I'm talking in classic checkers): with 3 queens, one of them in the "main central line" (We call it "the river", in Portugal) Vs 1 queen, you have only 12 moves to win the game. Or if you have 2 queens and a pawn, Vs 1 queen, you have 20 moves to move your pawn, or it is a draw.


2. Октября 2008, 12:44:31
Stardust 
Субъект: Re: Love is in the air?...
Manuel M: Yes,I'm stubborn...I resent your other insinuation

2. Октября 2008, 11:08:30
Manuel M 
Субъект: Re: Love is in the air?...
Stardust: The only reason I find to keep a game for 7 years (and it seems to go on and on...) is that both payers are the most stubborn in the world!!! Weeeell, I could figure another reason, but it would be something like a marriage....lol...is it?

2. Октября 2008, 11:08:30
Manuel M 
Субъект: Re: Love is in the air?...
Stardust: The only reason I find to keep a game for 7 years (and it seems to go on and on...) is that both payers are the most stubborn in the world!!! Weeeell, I could figure another reason, but it would be something like a marriage....lol...is it?

2. Октября 2008, 00:33:26
John Toomey 
Субъект: The draw debate
haven't had much of a problem with 'irksome' folks not conceed draws here. But how come the game doesn't automatically declare a draw when the same board position is repeated three times? that's how it works on its your turn, and that seems a very reasonable system.

1. Октября 2008, 23:53:16
Stardust 
Субъект: Re:
david upshaw: I offered a draw in January of 2002. He refused. Rules of the game say one can only offer a draw once. He waits til the last minute before he's to time out then he moves the game. He has timed out the maximum number of times allowed. That game is the only reason I still visit that site.

1. Октября 2008, 21:43:15
david upshaw 
What? 7 years? Thats crazy. lol. Are either of you asking for a draw?

I used to play on Goldtoken, but like this site so much better.

1. Октября 2008, 21:12:40
Stardust 
A draw may be obvious to the whole world but if one player refuses there is usually no justifiable recourse. Fencer intervened and that is admirable. Apparently that is NOT the case on Goldtoken where a game of checkers between NLStardust (me) and 3334 has been tediously played for almost 7 years.

30. Сентября 2008, 20:03:45
rod03801 
Субъект: English Discussion Board
Please keep the posts on this discussion board to English. Thank you.

30. Сентября 2008, 17:53:48
Gabriel Almeida 
Субъект: Re:

Manuel M: Eheheheh.


For those who can't read in portuguese, I can explain you that we (me and Undertaker) were calling brady as "HE", but Manuel explained us that we should say "SHE".


(A ver sus marmanjos engolem esta...)


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