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16. Марта 2005, 14:37:31
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re: oh right we have no fisherboard yet ... :)
danoschek: Sorry I can't reply to your pm directly regarding this board as you have me on hide. I was going to sort of agree with you but now I can't and your stunt is not appreciated.

16. Марта 2005, 14:41:51
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re: oh right we have no fisherboard yet ... :)
BTW as there is no Fischer Random Chess board (yet) discussion of this variant is also welcome here. [Fencer, if you read this, then maybe you could change the description to include it. Could also combine with Fortress Chess too, if you like, as they are all very similar.]

16. Марта 2005, 14:44:11
Mort 
From what I've seen Fencer has no intention of creating a board for Fisher chess. It's more likely that (from what I saw on BK board) he is going to shrink the smaller boards due to the low usage of them. If people want a Fisher Chess board that badly then it can be asked for either on the BK board or on Feature requests.

17. Марта 2005, 01:22:30
danoschek 
Субъект: ooops :D
settings changed ... ... - and I too think three
boards could go as one fisher/corner/fortress that is ...
last not least, avoiding chessfree bubbles,here a cornergame with a pure mate ... ~*~

17. Марта 2005, 07:34:51
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re: ooops :D
danoschek: Thanks ... and ...
You say this is a pure mate ... what do you mean by "pure"?

19. Марта 2005, 00:07:33
Nasmichael 
Субъект: Re: Redsales' proposal
Сделано для Nasmichael (19. Марта 2005, 00:07:53)
redsales: " (To WhispersQ): The problem with this game is that it's really a training game to get the players to figure out the moves. It was not intended for FM-IM-GM class players!" Correct. It makes for good discussion between the veteran player (Maharajah) and the novice. It is still an entertaining idea, and more "uneven chess" like this makes for good teaching tools, solved or not.

20. Марта 2005, 11:12:53
SMIRF Engine 
Субъект: All Chess960 startpositions at one page
Hi all Chess960 friends,

the Chess Tigers have published a very compact summary consisting of two tables,
from which any of the 960 existing starting positions easyly could be derived.

It seems as if this page actually is available in German language only.

Go to http://www.chesstigers.de/index.php?id=4 (Chess960) an use the link

"zu den Startpositionen und Regeln ..."

Regards, Reinhard.

20. Марта 2005, 17:00:35
danoschek 
Субъект: Re: ooops :D
WhisperzQ: sorry I meant
'pure pattern' thanks for correcting ... ~*~

21. Марта 2005, 07:00:13
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re: ooops :D
danoschek: wasn't intended to be a correction as the the term "pure pattern" still has me puzzled too ... can you enlighten me?

21. Марта 2005, 20:20:04
danoschek 
Субъект: Re: ooops :D
WhisperzQ: eheh !
hard to explain ... don't you think this single knight
unveiling the weakness of joined forces is pure beauty ? .. ~*~

22. Марта 2005, 15:09:33
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re: ooops :D
danoschek: I think it is extremely insightful (and incisive) and beautiful too ... just thought it might have been a technical term which I hadn't come across before ... maybe others will have similar games (positions) to share :)

31. Марта 2005, 10:46:15
nabla 
Субъект: Some history
Just to make some facts straight : the game of Anti Chess, more often called Losing Chess or Suicide Chess, is more than 100 years old, and the rules used here are the standard ones. For some more details, here is an historical research by John Beasley : http://www.pion.ch/Losing/LCLIT3AR.html.
The game has been studied a lot, by hand and by computer. Here is an opening book which should avoid you a lot of early trouble : http://catalin.francu.com/nilatac/book.php.
My personal homepage has tons of information too, but available only in French language.

31. Марта 2005, 10:47:54
nabla 
Субъект: nabla
Hmm, the links below should read without a dot at the end, so http://www.pion.ch/Losing/LCLIT3AR.html and http://catalin.francu.com/nilatac/book.php

1. Апреля 2005, 02:33:06
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re: nabla
nabla: If it is okay with you I will add the links to description above then they will always be available for those who are interested without going back through the discussion history ... okay?

Cheers WQ :)

4. Апреля 2005, 10:48:49
imalowlevelplay 
Субъект: suicide chess links
are u too interested in suicide chess(aka antichess or vinciperdi)?great!
here are great links,take a look:
http://www.pion.ch/general/liens.php?norep=5 ( in french) translate with google
http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/ICGA/games/losingchess/start.html (though this one seems down,dont understand why)
http://www.matf.bg.ac.yu/~andrew/suicide/
http://www.acc.umu.se/~sanden/suicide/index.html

4. Апреля 2005, 11:32:32
sdf 
Субъект: links

5. Апреля 2005, 07:04:38
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:05:10
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:05:25
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:05:40
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:05:54
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:06:07
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:06:29
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:07:47
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:08:00
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:08:12
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:09:12
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:09:34
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:10:05
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:11:31
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
A tournament has been created to honor Mr. Ed Trice:

http://brainking.com/game/Tournaments?trg=8217

Let's hope Mr. Trice joins. His intelligence and courage will be a a great asset in this endeavour.

5. Апреля 2005, 07:17:31
Walter Montego 
Субъект: Re: Ed doesn't play Dark Chess
Сделано для Walter Montego (5. Апреля 2005, 07:36:16)
Andromedical: Or if he does, he doesn't play it on this site. I have asked him to play at various times and he's turned me down by not responding. Perhaps you should have the tournament games in games that he actually plays on this site?
I know that him and quite a few other regular Chess, Gothic Chess, and Janus Chess players have no problem or would have no problem beating me at those games, but I hold my own against them in Dark Chess.

5. Апреля 2005, 12:45:55
grenv 
Субъект: Re: Ed doesn't play Dark Chess
Walter Montego: He doesn't play dark chess for the simple reason that he couldn't possibly win every game.

6. Апреля 2005, 20:29:59
Kili 
The reason is easy: there is not a software machine for playing dark chess.

6. Апреля 2005, 20:34:32
grenv 
Субъект: Re:
Matarilevich: lol. There could be, though it would be a lot more difficult to program well!

6. Апреля 2005, 20:45:46
Walter Montego 
Субъект: Re: Ed doesn't play Dark Chess
grenv: Ain't that the truth? This fear of losing is making him not try new games. It's a shame in a way. As smart as he is preported to be, we'd really have our hands full if he got good at Dark Chess. There's no way around it though, even if you are good you will lose games. I've lost some to people who were just learning the game. And while you're learning the game, it's a given that you'll take some lumps and lose a few too. Maybe after Alex wins that marathon Chess game between them the burden will be off and he can branch out and try some new things.

8. Апреля 2005, 09:26:57
PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 
Сделано для PhatPlaya 臭臭小指 (8. Апреля 2005, 09:27:15)
Unfortunately Mr. Trice refused to play in the tournament. He limits himself to chess variants in which he can win 100% of the time.

11. Апреля 2005, 14:34:35
nabla 
Субъект: Re: nabla
WhisperzQ: Sure, no problem ! There was also a very fine endgame database server (up to 4 pieces) by Lenny Taelman, but this one went down recently :-(

11. Апреля 2005, 20:00:20
Thad 
Субъект: Re: nabla
nabla: Yes, I believe it was here. Does anyone know if there is another version around anywhere?

11. Апреля 2005, 21:37:26
mangue 
The website of nabla contains valuable resource for antichess and do not miss his delicious Antichess exercices :-)

http://www.pion.ch/Losing/endex.html

12. Апреля 2005, 14:14:14
WhisperzQ 
Субъект: Re:
I didn't realise this was your site Nabla ... I will add it above with a reference to the "home" page for AntiChess. Unfortunately for me it is in French (I will have to get my daughter to translate LOL).

17. Апреля 2005, 09:45:29
SMIRF Engine 
Субъект: Huge response for the first Chess960 Computer World Championship
Hi friends of real chess programming!

In a very interesting article (German language) from the Frankfurt Chess Tigers
you can learn that there are already 20 participants. Thus it will be an event
huge and relevant for chess programming in August 2005, where the engines will
have o calculate from the beginning, not where a huge opening library might end.

See article at: http://www.chesstigers.de/ from 2005-04-17.

Reinhard.

17. Апреля 2005, 11:28:32
SMIRF Engine 
Субъект: Chess960 positions and rules condensed
Сделано для SMIRF Engine (17. Апреля 2005, 11:30:06)
Hi Chess960 friends,

again I point to the fine PDF document from the Frankfurt Chess Tigers.
You can find and download the PDF document (in German language) from the very
interesting Chess Tigers' home site at: http://www.chesstigers.de/download.php
( please search there for the link: Chess960 Startpositionen und Regeln ).

Regards, Reinhard.

28. Апреля 2005, 09:57:31
Bruce 
Субъект: PGN Viewer for LOOP CHESS
Do you know anybody PGN viewer for replay PGN files from LOOP CHESS ! I try classical PGN viewer, but there cannot replay notation e.g. 13. B@d6 B@e7 ... Thanks

28. Апреля 2005, 10:03:34
Luke Skywalker 
Субъект: Re: PGN Viewer for LOOP CHESS
Bruce: Try Winboard http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html or look at freechess.org for other interfaces to the chess server.

28. Апреля 2005, 10:23:09
Bruce 
Субъект: Re: PGN Viewer for LOOP CHESS
Luke Skywalker: It´s OK :-) Thanks

28. Апреля 2005, 16:01:51
nabla 
I vote that Ra5-a5 is a perfectly legitimate Cylinder Chess move. Do we know whether BK allows it ?

28. Апреля 2005, 17:07:14
Caissus 
Сделано для Caissus (28. Апреля 2005, 17:07:48)
Interface "Babaschess" is able to replay crazyhouse/loopchess pgn-games,but you have to change a little bit the pgnformat.
http://www.babaschess.net

28. Апреля 2005, 20:28:59
Expired 
Субъект: Re:
nabla: It doesn't. I think it's not a nice move either. to me a 'move' has to be with some sort of a change in the board.

28. Апреля 2005, 20:49:19
Luke Skywalker 
Субъект: Re: Re:
reza: I agree

29. Апреля 2005, 13:08:35
Luke Skywalker 
Субъект: Ra5-a5
Another reason why this should not be allowed:
A "move" is not the action of a piece travelling, but the action of putting a piece on a free square (or occupied by opponent, but that doesn't apply here). Since a5 is occupied, the R can't move there

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